US Politics Thread, 2.0

[Paradox]

I think it depends on the ethnic grouping too.

Some groups do tend to identify as the heritage grouping more readily.

Greek, Italian, Portuguese, Scottish, Russian are all groups I can think of locally from Europe that all still strongly identify as such.

There is no "British Club" here that I can think of.

British is not an ethnicity.

Tell them that.

Yeah, says who?

British is as much an ethnicity as English or Italian or German

There are fucking hundreds of cultures tied up in all the above

In England alone Devon and Cornish identity is totally separate and you can get into cultural differences between regions that don't even appear on most maps.

But for the sake of convenience I just say "British" or under some circumstances sometimes "European" because that's how I identify on the larger scale.

In the UK there is a specifically hideous streak of English nationalism that you evoke by claiming to be "English" especially among other people in the UK. Claiming to be "Scottish" or "Welsh" also carries complex connotations that Americans are normally completely oblivious to.

So which part of England are you from?

I was born in Aberdeen if that's interesting to you

[Kai]

I think it depends on the ethnic grouping too.

Some groups do tend to identify as the heritage grouping more readily.

Greek, Italian, Portuguese, Scottish, Russian are all groups I can think of locally from Europe that all still strongly identify as such.

There is no "British Club" here that I can think of.

British is not an ethnicity.

Tell them that.

Yeah, says who?

British is as much an ethnicity as English or Italian or German

There are fucking hundreds of cultures tied up in all the above

In England alone Devon and Cornish identity is totally separate and you can get into cultural differences between regions that don't even appear on most maps.

But for the sake of convenience I just say "British" or under some circumstances sometimes "European" because that's how I identify on the larger scale.

In the UK there is a specifically hideous streak of English nationalism that you evoke by claiming to be "English" especially among other people in the UK. Claiming to be "Scottish" or "Welsh" also carries complex connotations that Americans are normally completely oblivious to.

So which part of England are you from?

I was born in Aberdeen if that's interesting to you

It is. Potentially this is a generational thing: it's something my mother pointed out to me (she corected me when I described her as British), and something I found generally to be correct since then.

[Paradox]

I think it depends on the ethnic grouping too.

Some groups do tend to identify as the heritage grouping more readily.

Greek, Italian, Portuguese, Scottish, Russian are all groups I can think of locally from Europe that all still strongly identify as such.

There is no "British Club" here that I can think of.

British is not an ethnicity.

Tell them that.

Yeah, says who?

British is as much an ethnicity as English or Italian or German

There are fucking hundreds of cultures tied up in all the above

In England alone Devon and Cornish identity is totally separate and you can get into cultural differences between regions that don't even appear on most maps.

But for the sake of convenience I just say "British" or under some circumstances sometimes "European" because that's how I identify on the larger scale.

In the UK there is a specifically hideous streak of English nationalism that you evoke by claiming to be "English" especially among other people in the UK. Claiming to be "Scottish" or "Welsh" also carries complex connotations that Americans are normally completely oblivious to.

So which part of England are you from?

I was born in Aberdeen if that's interesting to you

It is. Potentially this is a generational thing: it's something my mother pointed out to me (she corected me when I described her as British), and something I found generally to be correct since then.

It's more complex than that. There are Scots that would spit at you if you called them British and there are Scots who wouldn't think twice. Both groups occupy every generation

The same goes for Welsh people and indeed Yorkshire and other places that tend toward strong regional identities

[teds :D]

I think it depends on the ethnic grouping too.

Some groups do tend to identify as the heritage grouping more readily.

Greek, Italian, Portuguese, Scottish, Russian are all groups I can think of locally from Europe that all still strongly identify as such.

There is no "British Club" here that I can think of.

British is not an ethnicity.

Tell them that.

Yeah, says who?

British is as much an ethnicity as English or Italian or German

There are fucking hundreds of cultures tied up in all the above

In England alone Devon and Cornish identity is totally separate and you can get into cultural differences between regions that don't even appear on most maps.

But for the sake of convenience I just say "British" or under some circumstances sometimes "European" because that's how I identify on the larger scale.

In the UK there is a specifically hideous streak of English nationalism that you evoke by claiming to be "English" especially among other people in the UK. Claiming to be "Scottish" or "Welsh" also carries complex connotations that Americans are normally completely oblivious to.

So which part of England are you from?

I was born in Aberdeen if that's interesting to you

that is interesting actually, i'd never have guessed that

[Jack Coutu]

The US politics thread has been invaded by "the brits", on the very day of the end of the presidential race of 2020. How bizarre!

[helgur]

The US politics thread has been colonized by "the brits", on the very day of the end of the presidential race of 2020. How appropriate!

fyp

[teds :D]

The US politics thread has been invaded by "the brits", on the very day of the end of the presidential race of 2020. How bizarre!

(not a brit)

[Jack Coutu]

True story, I saw an old Irish man throw a soda on a kid that called him British in a Registry of Motor Vehichles once, was quite the time. His family whisked him away and told the kid "look up the troubles if you want to know why you are soaking wet". Please don't dump soda on me, I know you aren't one of them good sir.

[walrus]

[Jack Coutu]

hhahahaha wow, i mean when you're broke you gotta do what you gotta do

[Venec]

[Venec]

Goodbye sweet prince, we will miss you ;_;

[Djan Seriy Anaplian]

Had a look at reddit this morning: one could honestly be mistaken for thinking Biden is the second coming of Christ. Nobody seems to be acknowledging the pretty worrying 70million votes for Trump.

[Candy Crush]

Imagine if electors decide to troll and reelect Trump.

[Keckers]

Had a look at reddit this morning: one could honestly be mistaken for thinking Biden is the second coming of Christ. Nobody seems to be acknowledging the pretty worrying 70million votes for Trump.

The more I see from the US the more it becomes apparent that as soon as Biden gets elected it will be incredibly convenient for the chattering classes to pretend everything is normal again.

Yes.

[Venec]

I think you're underestimating anger in people, but we'll see.

My bet is that Biden slaps on some poorly thought out pseudo reforms, lefties in democrats will continue to gain ground, riots will continue and everything comes crashing down ever harder by the end of his term.

  Spoiler:

Hopefully with the stronger, more organized left.

[depili]

It would be quite accomplisment to not have things coming crashing down during his term with the groundwork done by mr orange

[Venec]

It would be quite accomplisment to not have things coming crashing down during his term with the groundwork done by mr orange

Getting rid of trump was like cuting open a boil or squeezing out a huge pimple. It feels nice, but the disease is still there and has been for a long time since reagan.

[Joe Appleby]

Had a look at reddit this morning: one could honestly be mistaken for thinking Biden is the second coming of Christ. Nobody seems to be acknowledging the pretty worrying 70million votes for Trump.

You keep forgetting that about 40-45% of the American electorate will vote for their party, regardless of candidate or issue. That's why their elections are always so damn close.

Tapapapatalk

[Isyel]

I like how the centrists are already busy attacking the progressive side and saying how they should be friends with republicans and work together.

All over the place.

While in the meantime:

And yeah some people are celebrating Biden like the second coming of christ and how now everything is magically OK, as expected. If anyone dares to say work is only starting and we're still far off they get attacked mercilessly. I'm sure this is going to be a theme going forward.

Looking forward to seeing the usual suspects here doing the same soon.

Nobody seems to be acknowledging the pretty worrying 70million votes for Trump.

Worse than that, these people are not acknowledging that... well... all the issues are still there, as Venec said.