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    It would be better optics than what he's currently doing. I'm convinced the DNC don't care about winning though
    Because they are going to cheat their ass off in November. So why bother trying to win over the people. I mean shit all they had to do was not be crazy. But they doubled down and people are walking away from the party.
    I've seen some projection in my time, but this takes the cake with ridiculous ease
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    Oh look, godless heathens.
    Idk mate, I think the Abrahmic God had some pretty hard and fast rules about shoving things up your butt.
    i have heard it proposed that the strict patriarchal and monotheistic structure of early Judaism was very much down to the opposition "decadence" of the more laid back attitudes of the Sumerian city states that had a very much relaxed attitude to gender, sex, alcohol, prostitution and so forth as well as a more "pick what you like" approach to deities and religion since the scope was so broad, gods likewise was depicted in relatable, often human form.

    so, in essence, the dominant religions of the world more or less descend from a bunch of nomadic sheep herders trying to make life in the cities look awful and defining themselves in opposition to that.

    how much of that is conjecture and bollocks, i don't profess to know, but there's something thourghly amusing and depressing about the idea that the "religious hill-billies versus decadent city folk" has been around that long.
    I've heard something similar: many Jewish practices and customs were opposite those of their neighbors, in order to distinguish themselves and create a unique culture.
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    This Is How Biden Loses
    Nothing will harm a campaign like the wishful thinking, fearful hesitation, or sheer complacency that fails to address what voters can plainly see.

    Here is a prediction about the November election: If Donald Trump wins, in a trustworthy vote, what’s happening this week in Kenosha, Wisconsin, will be one reason. Maybe the reason. And yet Joe Biden has it in his power to spare the country a second Trump term.

    Events are unfolding with the inevitable logic of a nightmare. A white police officer shoots a Black man as he’s leaning into a car with his three sons inside—shoots him point-blank in the back, seven times, “as if he didn’t matter,” the victim’s father later says. If George Floyd was crushed to death by depraved indifference, Jacob Blake is the object of an attempted execution. Somehow, he survives—but his body is shattered, paralyzed from the waist down, maybe for life. Kenosha explodes in rage, the same rage that’s been igniting around the country all summer long, fading in Minneapolis only to flare up in Portland. In Kenosha, as elsewhere, what starts in peaceful protest soon leads to violence: cars burned, shops smashed, local businesses destroyed. Police and rioters incite one another to escalate; armed vigilantes take matters into their own hands; and a teenager from out of state kills two local men with an AR-15-style rifle. The authorities are overwhelmed and ineffectual, offering little in the way of information or protection. Within a couple of days, much of the small city is a ruined landscape.

    The victim’s family demands justice. His mother, Julia Jackson, calls for something else, too. Two days after the shooting, with her son fighting for his life, she begins her public remarks softly, almost inaudibly, but her own words seem to give her growing strength, and finally a profound resonance. She says that her son would not be happy with the damage to his community. “As I have prayed for my son’s healing, physically, emotionally, and spiritually, I also have been praying, even before this, for the healing of our country,” Jackson says, and she goes on: “We are the United States. Have we been united? Do you understand what’s going to happen when we fall? Because a house that is against each other cannot stand. To all of the police officers, I’m praying for you and your families. To all of the citizens, my Black and brown sisters and brothers, I’m praying for you. I believe that you are an intelligent being just like the rest of us. Everybody, let’s use our hearts, our love, and our intelligence to work together to show the rest of the world how humans are supposed to treat each other. America is great when we behave greatly.”

    Her words fall like a healing rain over the grief and the fires of this terrible year. She speaks to the whole country, to our shared humanity, and our desperation. Julia Jackson has given the essential speech of 2020, the one we most need to hear. And her last words—they seem to be directed at the president.

    The day before, on Monday, the Republicans began their remote convention. The simultaneous mayhem in Kenosha seemed like part of the script, as it played into their main theme: that Biden is a tool of radical leftists who hate America, who want to bring the chaos of the cities they govern out to the suburbs where the real Americans live. The Republicans won’t let such an opportunity go to waste. “Law and order are on the ballot,” Vice President Mike Pence said on Wednesday night. Other speakers were harsher.

    It’s no use dismissing their words as partisan talking points. They are effective ones, backed up by certain facts. Trump will bang this loud, ugly drum until Election Day. He knows that Kenosha has placed Democrats in a trap. They’ve embraced the protests and the causes that drive them. The third night of the Democratic convention was consumed with the language and imagery of protest—as if all Americans watching were activists.

    On Monday, the day after Blake’s shooting, Biden and his vice-presidential nominee, Senator Kamala Harris, released statements expressing outrage. The next day, Biden’s spokesperson released a statement opposing “burning down communities and needless destruction.” And on Wednesday, Biden, after speaking with the Blake family, condemned both the initial incident and the subsequent destruction. “Burning down communities is not protest,” he pleaded in a video. “It’s needless violence.” He said the same after George Floyd’s killing.

    How many Americans have heard him? In the crude terms of a presidential campaign, voters know that the Democrat means it when he denounces police brutality, but less so when he denounces riots. To reach the public and convince it otherwise, Biden has to go beyond boilerplate and make it personal, memorable.

    Harris, a Black former prosecutor and now an advocate for police reform, seems uniquely positioned to speak to the crisis. But she has said little all week, which suggests that there might be things she doesn’t want to say. On Thursday, Harris directly addressed the events in Kenosha, affirming that Americans “must always defend peaceful protest and peaceful protesters. We should not confuse them with those looting and committing acts of violence.” She quickly moved on. Democratic leaders, from the nearly invisible mayor of Kenosha up to those on the presidential ticket, are reluctant to tarnish a just cause, amplify Republican attacks, or draw the wrath of their own progressive base (Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut deleted a tweet saying that both the Blake shooting and the riots were wrong after commenters accused him of equating the two). So Democrats continue to mute their response to the violence and hope it will subside, even though it has persisted straight through the summer.

    In mid-August, a Pew Research Center poll found that the issue of violent crime ranks fifth in importance to registered voters—behind the economy, health care, the Supreme Court, and the pandemic, but ahead of foreign policy, guns, race, immigration, and climate change. The poll found a large partisan gap on the issue: three-quarters of Trump voters rated violent crime “very important,” second behind only the economy. Nonetheless, nearly half of Biden voters also rated it “very important.” Other polls show that, over the summer, Biden has lost some of the support he gained among older white Americans in the first months of the coronavirus pandemic.

    With some exceptions, the media have been reluctant to shine a bright light on the summer’s violence—both the riots and the concurrent spike in violence. The New York Times ignored or downplayed the subject for weeks. One of its first major articles appeared in mid-August, under the headline “In the Wake of Covid-19 Lockdowns, a Troubling Surge in Homicides.” The piece argued that the crime surge had to do with the end of the lockdown that coincided with the beginning of summer, citing the skepticism of criminologists that “the increase is tied to any pullback by the police in response to criticism or defunding efforts,” and pointing to economic disruption and the spread of despair. But it also offered a different explanation, contradicting the thesis: “Police officials in several cities have said the protests have diverted officers from crime-fighting duty or emboldened criminals.”

    After the 2016 election, the Times admitted that it had somehow missed the story, and it earnestly set about at self-correction. Like many other outlets, the paper sent reporters to talk to Americans who had put Trump in the White House. It was a new beat, almost a foreign bureau—heartland reporting—but that focus soon faded as the president’s daily depredations consumed the media’s attention. This election year, news organizations grown more activist might miss the story again, this time on principle—as they avoid stories that don’t support their preferred narrative. Trump supporters are hoping for it.

    On Tuesday night, the CNN host Don Lemon warned his colleague Chris Cuomo that riots were hurting Biden and the Democrats: “Chris, as you know and I know, it’s showing up in the polls, it’s showing up in focus groups. It’s the only thing right now that’s sticking.” Lemon urged Biden to speak out about both police reform and violence. With Kenosha and the political conventions, the coverage seems to be changing. On Thursday, the Times ran a piece headlined “How Chaos in Kenosha Is Already Swaying Some Voters in Wisconsin.” Half a dozen Kenosha residents, reckoning with damaged buildings and businesses, expressed displeasure with the uncertain response of Democratic officials. Ellen Ferwerda, an antique store owner, “said that she was desperate for Trump to lose in November but that she had ‘huge concern’ the unrest in her town could help him win. She added that local Democratic leaders seemed hesitant to condemn the mayhem.”

    Nothing will harm a campaign like the wishful thinking, fearful hesitation, or sheer complacency that fails to address what voters can plainly see. Kenosha gives Biden a chance to help himself and the country. Ordinarily it’s the incumbent president’s job to show up at the scene of a national tragedy and give a unifying speech. But Trump is temperamentally incapable of doing so and, in fact, has a political interest in America’s open wounds and burning cities.

    Biden, then, should go immediately to Wisconsin, the crucial state that Hillary Clinton infamously ignored. He should meet the Blake family and give them his support and comfort. He should also meet Kenoshans like the small-business owners quoted in the Times piece, who doubt that Democrats care about the wreckage of their dreams. Then, on the burned-out streets, without a script, from the heart, Biden should speak to the city and the country. He should speak for justice and for safety, for reform and against riots, for the crying need to bring the country together. If he says these things half as well as Julia Jackson did, we might not have to live with four more years of Trump.
    “Within a couple of days, much of the small city is a ruined landscape.”

    See this is just false. A few buildings and cars burning does not turn “much of the city” into a “ruined landscape.”

    The destruction is incredibly localized, and pales in comparison to the type of destruction wrought in black communities by white race rioters during the 20th century (e.g. Tulsa). The idea that whole towns or neighborhoods are going up in chaos and flames is simply not correct.

    Also, Biden isn’t going to go anywhere near Kenosha, and he’s not going to attempt to act like a leader before the election. Just like he didn’t with Corona. See that’s Trump’s job, and Biden is one of those old-fashioned folks who cares more about obeying norms than justice or democracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlona Sky View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lachesis VII View Post
    “Within a couple of days, much of the small city is a ruined landscape.”

    See this is just false. A few buildings and cars burning does not turn “much of the city” into a “ruined landscape.”

    The destruction is incredibly localized, and pales in comparison to the type of destruction wrought in black communities by white race rioters during the 20th century (e.g. Tulsa). The idea that whole towns or neighborhoods are going up in chaos and flames is simply not correct.

    Also, Biden isn’t going to go anywhere near Kenosha, and he’s not going to attempt to act like a leader before the election. Just like he didn’t with Corona. See that’s Trump’s job, and Biden is one of those old-fashioned folks who cares more about obeying norms than justice or democracy.
    This article caused a lot of teeth gnashing in the pundit-o-sphere, mostly calling it out for being alarmist tripe. Biden and Harris released statements condemning the shooting, and Biden actually called and spoke directly to the family, but would him going to Kenosha and giving a speech actually address anything useful? I'm not convinced. What I'd prefer to see is more dems fighting more battles in the media to get the bills that the house has passed at least voted on in the senate, and center democracy reform more so we can fix the gerrymandered republican-controlled state houses that are stopping most police reform from even being considered.

    Now, if Sanders was the nominee, and went to Kenosha and given a speech, I think that might help move the needle a tick. He'd be able to address the fundamental problems behind racist policing in a convincing way, where the words still ring hollow in the mouths of Biden and Harris. But we don't get to live in that world, so ~ ~ ~ ~
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    if Sanders was the nominee, 2/3rds of the democrats would be holding their nose and siding with Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liare View Post
    if Sanders was the nominee, 2/3rds of the democrats would be holding their nose and siding with Trump.
    No they fucking wouldn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liare View Post
    if Sanders was the nominee, 2/3rds of the democrats would be holding their nose and siding with Trump.
    This is completely delusional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruri View Post
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    “Within a couple of days, much of the small city is a ruined landscape.”

    See this is just false. A few buildings and cars burning does not turn “much of the city” into a “ruined landscape.”

    The destruction is incredibly localized, and pales in comparison to the type of destruction wrought in black communities by white race rioters during the 20th century (e.g. Tulsa). The idea that whole towns or neighborhoods are going up in chaos and flames is simply not correct.

    Also, Biden isn’t going to go anywhere near Kenosha, and he’s not going to attempt to act like a leader before the election. Just like he didn’t with Corona. See that’s Trump’s job, and Biden is one of those old-fashioned folks who cares more about obeying norms than justice or democracy.
    This article caused a lot of teeth gnashing in the pundit-o-sphere, mostly calling it out for being alarmist tripe. Biden and Harris released statements condemning the shooting, and Biden actually called and spoke directly to the family, but would him going to Kenosha and giving a speech actually address anything useful? I'm not convinced. What I'd prefer to see is more dems fighting more battles in the media to get the bills that the house has passed at least voted on in the senate, and center democracy reform more so we can fix the gerrymandered republican-controlled state houses that are stopping most police reform from even being considered.

    Now, if Sanders was the nominee, and went to Kenosha and given a speech, I think that might help move the needle a tick. He'd be able to address the fundamental problems behind racist policing in a convincing way, where the words still ring hollow in the mouths of Biden and Harris. But we don't get to live in that world, so ~ ~ ~ ~
    Biden can’t go to Kenosha because by going to Kenosha he would provide the opportunity for Trump to paint him as leading or coordinating the rioting, and would be more fuel for the fire of “Biden is tool of far-left communists.” No matter what he said, it would be portrayed as sympathizing and condoning the conduct of the protestors.

    It’s too chaotic a space for an “ordinary” politician to maneuver in, I think. It requires a heterodox approach. AOC could manage it, Sanders could, etc. (trump obviously can), but as you point out that’s not the world we’re in at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lachesis VII View Post
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    “Within a couple of days, much of the small city is a ruined landscape.”

    See this is just false. A few buildings and cars burning does not turn “much of the city” into a “ruined landscape.”

    The destruction is incredibly localized, and pales in comparison to the type of destruction wrought in black communities by white race rioters during the 20th century (e.g. Tulsa). The idea that whole towns or neighborhoods are going up in chaos and flames is simply not correct.

    Also, Biden isn’t going to go anywhere near Kenosha, and he’s not going to attempt to act like a leader before the election. Just like he didn’t with Corona. See that’s Trump’s job, and Biden is one of those old-fashioned folks who cares more about obeying norms than justice or democracy.
    This article caused a lot of teeth gnashing in the pundit-o-sphere, mostly calling it out for being alarmist tripe. Biden and Harris released statements condemning the shooting, and Biden actually called and spoke directly to the family, but would him going to Kenosha and giving a speech actually address anything useful? I'm not convinced. What I'd prefer to see is more dems fighting more battles in the media to get the bills that the house has passed at least voted on in the senate, and center democracy reform more so we can fix the gerrymandered republican-controlled state houses that are stopping most police reform from even being considered.

    Now, if Sanders was the nominee, and went to Kenosha and given a speech, I think that might help move the needle a tick. He'd be able to address the fundamental problems behind racist policing in a convincing way, where the words still ring hollow in the mouths of Biden and Harris. But we don't get to live in that world, so ~ ~ ~ ~
    Biden can’t go to Kenosha because by going to Kenosha he would provide the opportunity for Trump to paint him as leading or coordinating the rioting, and would be more fuel for the fire of “Biden is tool of far-left communists.” No matter what he said, it would be portrayed as sympathizing and condoning the conduct of the protestors.

    It’s too chaotic a space for an “ordinary” politician to maneuver in, I think. It requires a heterodox approach. AOC could manage it, Sanders could, etc. (trump obviously can), but as you point out that’s not the world we’re in at the moment.
    There's no gas in the tank anyway. How do you get the guy to make a rousing or politically impactful speech? you can't sonny, anyway time to get some ice cream

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    Biden is blowing the small lead he had over trump lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steckersaurus View Post
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    if Sanders was the nominee, 2/3rds of the democrats would be holding their nose and siding with Trump.
    No they fucking wouldn't.
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    if Sanders was the nominee, 2/3rds of the democrats would be holding their nose and siding with Trump.
    This is completely delusional.
    is that why they expended so much effort to ratfuck Sanders out of the nomination ?
    of course, a consequence of that that they're saddled with a wholly unsuited candidate for the time we're currently in and a 2016 rerun is looking increasingly likely. this is not surprising by the way, nor is the ongoing shit-show, COVID and the fact your cops just cant help themselves from executing black people have brought the tensions forward and pitched the whole thing up to 11.

    why is it not surprising ? because they'd rather sink the party than cede power to the left, so of course they where going to be siding with Trump, either actively by doing so publically or sabotaging things from the inside, or passively by not participating. (2016 wants it "WE LOST THE ELECTION BECAUSE OF BERNIE BROS!" back, it goes both ways.)
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    If sanders had won, it wouldn’t have been 2/3 dems voting trump, it would’ve been 1/6 and that in itself wouldve been enough. Do you think a non-microscopic portion of 2016 trump voters would have voted sanders in 2020, or a portion big enough to offset the inevitable loss of a slim portion of the middle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortior View Post
    If sanders had won, it wouldn’t have been 2/3 dems voting trump, it would’ve been 1/6 and that in itself wouldve been enough. Do you think a non-microscopic portion of 2016 trump voters would have voted sanders in 2020, or a portion big enough to offset the inevitable loss of a slim portion of the middle?

    Doubtful.
    i didn't expect 2/3rds of the voters to jump ship, by democrats i meant to imply the party itself, i sometimes forget people in the US compound the two things for some insane reason, nobody else does.

    i think that Sanders would have opted to mobilize the non-voting segments of the american people and build off that as a base. you've got sub 50% voter participation and non-participants are overwhelmingly in favour of the policies he proposed. indeed things like Medicare 4 all have significant cross-party support so assuming that he would have kept his hands off live wires like gun control and instead kept hammering on the very things people liked about the campaign then yes, he could have pulled it off.

    making the policies reality is a different kettle entirely of course.
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    It is all questionable. But if certainly if Bernie had gotten the nomination you couldn't open any media on planet without running into attack ads about how "Bread lines in USSR are good thing" and I'm not certain of this one, but I think in '70es he and Chomsky and few others made complete idiots of themselves and denied Cambodian genocide and defended Pol Pot. Than there is his recent hyporisy where once he was a mainstream politician he accepted number of solution that "externalized" some NH problems...

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    I'm twelve years old and what is this?

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    Have we forgotten that when Sanders won the Nevada primary MSNBC compared it to Hitler invading France?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mewninn View Post
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    “Within a couple of days, much of the small city is a ruined landscape.”

    See this is just false. A few buildings and cars burning does not turn “much of the city” into a “ruined landscape.”

    The destruction is incredibly localized, and pales in comparison to the type of destruction wrought in black communities by white race rioters during the 20th century (e.g. Tulsa). The idea that whole towns or neighborhoods are going up in chaos and flames is simply not correct.

    Also, Biden isn’t going to go anywhere near Kenosha, and he’s not going to attempt to act like a leader before the election. Just like he didn’t with Corona. See that’s Trump’s job, and Biden is one of those old-fashioned folks who cares more about obeying norms than justice or democracy.
    This article caused a lot of teeth gnashing in the pundit-o-sphere, mostly calling it out for being alarmist tripe. Biden and Harris released statements condemning the shooting, and Biden actually called and spoke directly to the family, but would him going to Kenosha and giving a speech actually address anything useful? I'm not convinced. What I'd prefer to see is more dems fighting more battles in the media to get the bills that the house has passed at least voted on in the senate, and center democracy reform more so we can fix the gerrymandered republican-controlled state houses that are stopping most police reform from even being considered.

    Now, if Sanders was the nominee, and went to Kenosha and given a speech, I think that might help move the needle a tick. He'd be able to address the fundamental problems behind racist policing in a convincing way, where the words still ring hollow in the mouths of Biden and Harris. But we don't get to live in that world, so ~ ~ ~ ~
    Biden can’t go to Kenosha because by going to Kenosha he would provide the opportunity for Trump to paint him as leading or coordinating the rioting, and would be more fuel for the fire of “Biden is tool of far-left communists.” No matter what he said, it would be portrayed as sympathizing and condoning the conduct of the protestors.

    It’s too chaotic a space for an “ordinary” politician to maneuver in, I think. It requires a heterodox approach. AOC could manage it, Sanders could, etc. (trump obviously can), but as you point out that’s not the world we’re in at the moment.
    There's no gas in the tank anyway. How do you get the guy to make a rousing or politically impactful speech? you can't sonny, anyway time to get some ice cream
    From the galaxy brains at the Biden campaign:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...s8h?li=BBnbcA1

    Two sources with knowledge of the former vice president’s travel discussions say that while Biden is expected to travel, he will steer clear of the pivotal Midwestern battleground state on Monday. He is expected to address the rising tensions stemming from the unrest in Portland and Kenosha.

    The thinking, according to these people, is that Trump’s trip to Kenosha could backfire on the president. The Biden campaign is ramping up its messaging that the unrest in the city and elsewhere is an outgrowth of the president's rhetoric that inflames racial tensions.


    Yes, let Trump get up and talk and embarrass himself, the clearest way to demonstrate that you are more fit to lead. This is a flawless plan with no possible way of going wrong.

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