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    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    So many people being really upset that people are not upset over the death of someone who brought so much hate to the world.
    It's okay to not have a strong opinion, or even no opinion. Maybe if he was murdered in crazy hijinks or died by spectacular means, but otherwise it's another celeb-light passing. No strong opinions on a boomer dying of cancer here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Coutu View Post
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    On same page GOP libertard mayor literally telling citizens to die if they can't bootstrap themselves, and Biden not willing on a blanket student loan forgiveness with excuse it would help rich kids in expensive schools more.

    BOTH THE SAME!!!1
    Who, exactly, called those two things the same? Really at a loss here as to what exactly you're attempting to say.
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    Yes different people posted the two articles. I was just trying to point out the absurdity of people immediately jumping at Biden for not supporting student loan forgiveness, and crying how Democrats are already working hard to lose.

    If between GOPs open socal darwinism and Dems maybe not supporting every single left agents item you personally support, you still whine about Dems not being left enough and threaten to not vote or to again protest vote for a "disruptive" candidate... Problem is neither the Democrats nor the system, problem is you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaztick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    So many people being really upset that people are not upset over the death of someone who brought so much hate to the world.
    It's okay to not have a strong opinion, or even no opinion. Maybe if he was murdered in crazy hijinks or died by spectacular means, but otherwise it's another celeb-light passing. No strong opinions on a boomer dying of cancer here.
    Yeah just some innocent boomer with no strong effects on society, simply an innocuous man. /s

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    Erich's incessant "blue fascism" (i don't have another term for it) is becoming significantly more wide spread, even glancing at twitter shows a whole lot of people from the coasts gloating over millions without water or power in Texas. it's emblematic at that deep split in American society i am not sure y'all on the inside really see as clearly as "we" on the outside do. Erich's posts there are fucking abominable, comparing him to a Nazi is not only reasonable, it reads pretty much like the sort of shit that was in actual Nazi propaganda flyers at the time. but he's not alone in those viewpoints.

    somebody having dumb politics in another part of the world doesn't justify them freezing to death or dying from dysentery because they can't boil their water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dzajic View Post
    Yes different people posted the two articles. I was just trying to point out the absurdity of people immediately jumping at Biden for not supporting student loan forgiveness, and crying how Democrats are already working hard to lose.

    If between GOPs open socal darwinism and Dems maybe not supporting every single left agents item you personally support, you still whine about Dems not being left enough and threaten to not vote or to again protest vote for a "disruptive" candidate... Problem is neither the Democrats nor the system, problem is you.
    This says a lot more about you than anyone else here.

    So just because the democrats are less awful than some literal right wing lunatic they shouldn't be criticized? It's not a both sides thing, they are vastly less awful, it does not mean Biden is a saint doing everything right and people should abso-fucking-lutely criticize the ones in power when issues come up. We told you a million times since Biden won, people don't love him, he isn't a candidate people were excited about and he has a lot of issues. He just happens to be (a lot) better than literal nazis. And people who voted for him over literal nazis now would really like him to do a decent job at it and will and should criticize. It's how this whole thing is supposed to work.

    You're basically advocating exactly for the kind of behavior Trump wants. Absolute obedience and saying absolutely nothing against great leader just because you like him more than the other.

    There is no absurdity here, you're just way off. Trumpism has not disappeared with Biden showing up, it's alive an well, and by god the dems need to set fire to some shit for it to not resurface stronger than ever in a couple years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lief Siddhe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
    Sure, we shoudl just sit around and wait for them to do it to us first. Take the high road! Negotiate with racist terrorists! Surely they will do the right thing, this time, after we ask nicely...

    The only language pieces of shit like this understand is violence.
    So, have you actually ever done anything violent against Republicans or is it only a language you use among friendlies? So brave, much courage. Mmmmmpfhahahahaha. MURICAH!

    edit: I remember a time we used to ban people for calling for violence against groups of people here on FHC. Helped us get rid of some utterly retarded posters...
    As much as I hate Erich's generalizations and tirades of using violence against groups of people he lumps in as nazis, this time he's actually right. The guy that was quoted on twitter that he is referring to is specifically using social darwinism as an excuse to kill off people. He is an actual nazi. Not going to infract or ban people for saying the only good nazis are dead ones. Because, honestly that's the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helgur View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lief Siddhe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
    Sure, we shoudl just sit around and wait for them to do it to us first. Take the high road! Negotiate with racist terrorists! Surely they will do the right thing, this time, after we ask nicely...

    The only language pieces of shit like this understand is violence.
    So, have you actually ever done anything violent against Republicans or is it only a language you use among friendlies? So brave, much courage. Mmmmmpfhahahahaha. MURICAH!

    edit: I remember a time we used to ban people for calling for violence against groups of people here on FHC. Helped us get rid of some utterly retarded posters...
    As much as I hate Erich's generalizations and tirades of using violence against groups of people he lumps in as nazis, this time he's actually right. The guy that was quoted on twitter that he is referring to is specifically using social darwinism as an excuse to kill off people. He is an actual nazi. Not going to infract or ban people for saying the only good nazis are dead ones. Because, honestly that's the truth.
    but please, won't someone think of the nazi's?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by helgur View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lief Siddhe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
    Sure, we shoudl just sit around and wait for them to do it to us first. Take the high road! Negotiate with racist terrorists! Surely they will do the right thing, this time, after we ask nicely...

    The only language pieces of shit like this understand is violence.
    So, have you actually ever done anything violent against Republicans or is it only a language you use among friendlies? So brave, much courage. Mmmmmpfhahahahaha. MURICAH!

    edit: I remember a time we used to ban people for calling for violence against groups of people here on FHC. Helped us get rid of some utterly retarded posters...
    As much as I hate Erich's generalizations and tirades of using violence against groups of people he lumps in as nazis, this time he's actually right. The guy that was quoted on twitter that he is referring to is specifically using social darwinism as an excuse to kill off people. He is an actual nazi. Not going to infract or ban people for saying the only good nazis are dead ones. Because, honestly that's the truth.
    Lol. Telling people to heat their houses and get amenities somehow, even though it's partly your job == advocating for final solution for 30ish percent of population you disagree with. Have you considered participating in olympics? If you're capable of such leaps, it's golden medals for you every time you would start. Or just drop the pretense and just tell it's ok to advocate genocide on forums as long as it's people you don't like or consider subhuman yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufuske View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by helgur View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lief Siddhe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
    Sure, we shoudl just sit around and wait for them to do it to us first. Take the high road! Negotiate with racist terrorists! Surely they will do the right thing, this time, after we ask nicely...

    The only language pieces of shit like this understand is violence.
    So, have you actually ever done anything violent against Republicans or is it only a language you use among friendlies? So brave, much courage. Mmmmmpfhahahahaha. MURICAH!

    edit: I remember a time we used to ban people for calling for violence against groups of people here on FHC. Helped us get rid of some utterly retarded posters...
    As much as I hate Erich's generalizations and tirades of using violence against groups of people he lumps in as nazis, this time he's actually right. The guy that was quoted on twitter that he is referring to is specifically using social darwinism as an excuse to kill off people. He is an actual nazi. Not going to infract or ban people for saying the only good nazis are dead ones. Because, honestly that's the truth.
    Lol. Telling people to heat their houses and get amenities somehow, even though it's partly your job == advocating for final solution for 30ish percent of population you disagree with. Have you considered participating in olympics? If you're capable of such leaps, it's golden medals for you every time you would start. Or just drop the pretense and just tell it's ok to advocate genocide on forums as long as it's people you don't like or consider subhuman yourself.
    "only the strong will survive and the weak will perish" is the same as just "telling people to heat their houses"? I think we have a different way of interpreting words.

    And I could start wondering about your false pretenses aswell you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liare View Post
    Erich's incessant "blue fascism" (i don't have another term for it) is becoming significantly more wide spread, even glancing at twitter shows a whole lot of people from the coasts gloating over millions without water or power in Texas. it's emblematic at that deep split in American society i am not sure y'all on the inside really see as clearly as "we" on the outside do. Erich's posts there are fucking abominable, comparing him to a Nazi is not only reasonable, it reads pretty much like the sort of shit that was in actual Nazi propaganda flyers at the time. but he's not alone in those viewpoints.

    somebody having dumb politics in another part of the world doesn't justify them freezing to death or dying from dysentery because they can't boil their water.
    Yes this is just the rebranded politics of all the yuppies who were voting Reagan 40 years ago

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    Imo Biden should be in Texas. Mobilizing the Army Corps of Engineers? Bringing some aircraft carriers down to help power the grid? Getting the western grid extended further into west Texas? Distributing bottled water and food and fuel to the victims.

    Basically positioning himself to take the credit when the power and water comes back on and maybe actually helping some people in the mean time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nax View Post
    Imo Biden should be in Texas. Mobilizing the Army Corps of Engineers? Bringing some aircraft carriers down to help power the grid? Getting the western grid extended further into west Texas? Distributing bottled water and food and fuel to the victims.

    Basically positioning himself to take the credit when the power and water comes back on and maybe actually helping some people in the mean time.
    what the hell are you on man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nax View Post
    Imo Biden should be in Texas. Mobilizing the Army Corps of Engineers? Bringing some aircraft carriers down to help power the grid? Getting the western grid extended further into west Texas? Distributing bottled water and food and fuel to the victims.

    Basically positioning himself to take the credit when the power and water comes back on and maybe actually helping some people in the mean time.
    Nah, fuck them. Let them freeze to death. The more the better. Serves them subhumans right for voting in a Republican governor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lief Siddhe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nax View Post
    Imo Biden should be in Texas. Mobilizing the Army Corps of Engineers? Bringing some aircraft carriers down to help power the grid? Getting the western grid extended further into west Texas? Distributing bottled water and food and fuel to the victims.

    Basically positioning himself to take the credit when the power and water comes back on and maybe actually helping some people in the mean time.
    Nah, fuck them. Let them freeze to death. The more the better. Serves them subhumans right for voting in a Republican governor.

    Hey, this is fun! Might make a habit out of this.
    It's more that you can't just magically fix the issues with a couple of aircraft carriers, or a national guard deployment. the states powergrid is run by an entity that the federal government has no power over, and the state has no infrastructure in place that can be readily fixed. Even if the governemnt was moving as fast as possible (when is it ever) this shit isn't fixable anytime soon. Also Biden should stay the fuck away as there's only dumb PR involved in him arriving.

    the people suffering there really need more help than temporary aid, they need a functional power regulator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Coutu View Post
    It's more that you can't just magically fix the issues with a couple of aircraft carriers,
    Actually since the problem is too many people trying to use power at the same time technically thats quite solvable using aircraft carriers...



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    TIL you can just hook CV's up like portable batteries, and also that CV's can teleport to places hundreds of miles from the shore!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Coutu View Post
    TIL you can just hook CV's up like portable batteries, and also that CV's can teleport to places hundreds of miles from the shore!
    An aircraft carrier has been used to power a city before, so it can theoretically be done. That doesn't mean that it can be done usefully in this case. It might well be symbolic, like Trump sending US Navy hospital ships to pandemic cities that then didn't treat any patients (but he got a lot of credit for doing it.)

    Houston, however, is one of the largest ports in the world and the city has suffered electricity blackouts for days so the opportunity is there if it can be done.

    Regardless the point is to do something visible to help the people. If that's just getting food, water and fuel to freezing people with no fresh water then do that.

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    I think you might be vastly oversimplyfying how truly fucked up the situation is. It's not just a matter of supply and demand. The grid is so underdeveloped or just overwhelming broken atm, or powerlines have caught fire due to overloads. Without a meaningful state response itabhard to even know who needs help where. The president no matter who it may be in a time like this is utterly unable to do enough to fix the myriad of issues Texas faces. I do hope they send aid, but Texas isn't gonna be helped by cv's or water bottles. As far as power grids go its baffling and speaking to people that run northeastern grid operations, they knew this was possible and the state did fuck all about it.

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    Decided to delete this post because I don't want to add to the toxicity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nax View Post
    Decided to delete this post because I don't want to add to the toxicity.
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