What the tits, no cormorant of doom thread??
Well, here's two awesome sauce recipes for cormorant.
Both rely on people underestimating them, because corm is shit tbh.
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For ganking overconfident frigs:
Spoiler:
Very effective at butchering frigs that think "Hey, a cormorant! Free kill!"
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A more general approach (not as wtfpwnbbq)
Spoiler:
Haven't tried yet, but it should be somewhat viable.
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Here's a fit that I use quite often, although you absolutely need to have awu5 and a +1% powergrid implant.
125mm Railgun x7 (CN antimatter)
Catalyzed Cold-gas arcjet thrusters
x5 prototype I engine enervator (alternatively, you can use tech II webs, which give you a slightly better bonus to speed reduction)
x5 prototype I engine enervator
Warp Scrambler II
Magnetic Field Stabiliser
x3 Small Core Defence field extender (or one anti-em rig, but you really want to have as much shield hp as possible)
You have enough shield hp (surprisingly enough) to take on quite a few hits, but you have to be very careful around artillery, because anything larger than a thrasher will most likely pop you pretty quickly. You can switch it up the mwd for an afterburner, but you really, really need the speed. Otherwise, the stupid shit you can normally get away from in a frigate (say, cynabals) will catch you
you need a 1% PG with that, even with AWU V it doesnt fit.Originally Posted by Robopleasure
Here's a fit that I use quite often, although you absolutely need to have awu5 and a +1% powergrid implant.
125mm Railgun x7 (CN antimatter)
Catalyzed Cold-gas arcjet thrusters
x5 prototype I engine enervator (alternatively, you can use tech II webs, which give you a slightly better bonus to speed reduction)
x5 prototype I engine enervator
Warp Scrambler II
Magnetic Field Stabiliser
x3 Small Core Defence field extender (or one anti-em rig, but you really want to have as much shield hp as possible)
You have enough shield hp (surprisingly enough) to take on quite a few hits, but you have to be very careful around artillery, because anything larger than a thrasher will most likely pop you pretty quickly. You can switch it up the mwd for an afterburner, but you really, really need the speed. Otherwise, the stupid shit you can normally get away from in a frigate (say, cynabals) will catch you
the 125s have 15km range with the ship bonuses so it seems kinda pointless, the 75s have better fitting, better tracking, DPS isnt that much worse (20 difference but you can fit MFS and damage rigs, so it evens out).
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[Cormorant, snypah]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range
150mm Railgun II, Spike S
150mm Railgun II, Spike S
150mm Railgun II, Spike S
150mm Railgun II, Spike S
150mm Railgun II, Spike S
150mm Railgun II, Spike S
150mm Railgun II, Spike S
[empty high slot]
Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
102 dps, 349 volley to 95+ km.
alligns in 3.9 sec
This one is for Prom
[Cormorant, Prom]
Damage Control II
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Medium Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Warp Disruptor II
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge S
[empty high slot]
Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Small Auxiliary Thrusters II
10.6k EHP, 140DPS at 15+3.8km with Uranium, 1.6km/sec - 2.3km/sec OH 16.6km/sec is obviously a oversight on Archetype 66's part as evidenced by the OH speed of 2.3km/sec there by we can deduce that he meant 1.6km/sec instead - Helen
Edit : 16.6km/sec meh :s
Last edited by Archetype 66; December 2 2011 at 11:39:42 AM.
Typo in the speed I hope
Now I have a T2 gun. Ho, ho, ho.
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Necroing because since destroyer and hybrid turret buff this has become a worthy substitute for a Thrasher imo. It has everything a destroyer needs: range(control) buffer, dps.
[Cormorant, New Setup 1]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Catalyzed Cold-Gas Arcjet Thrusters
Warp Disruptor II
Stasis Webifier II
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm 'Scout' Accelerator Cannon, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I
This fits with perfect skills, a genolution set and 5%PG hardwiring and has 0.69 PG left. Offers 170 DPS at 15+6.3 and 6600 HP. Without these implants one can downgrade gun after gun till it fits or use an ancillary current router.
[Cormorant, New Setup 1]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Stasis Webifier II
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge S
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I
There you go. No fancy implants needed and I even managed to squeeze a rocket launcher on. Keep in mind dessies still die when something sneezes on them. Personally I would be edgy about flying with expensive implants in one.
Was looking at whether it was possible to use Lord's harpy fit on a cheaper platform, not entirely happy that this is the optimal way to do it though =/
also require AWU V i think ='''[
Spoiler:
211 DPS at 22+6 km
point can be swapped to T2 but you loose cap life
You gain a bit of dps/tracking, but lose all pretense of cap stability, what little tank you had takes the last train for the coast, and your speed also takes a running dive off of the empire state building.
Not even close to worth it imo.
I ran into a dual tracking disruptor 75mm fit. Can't imagine it would do much against anything with missiles, but it pwnt my arty thrasher and merlin
what on earth has cap stability and tank got to do with destroyers? fights last about 30 seconds.
its also a LOAD cheaper. ideal for training or whateverYou gain a bit of dps/tracking, but lose all pretense of cap stability, what little tank you had takes the last train for the coast, and your speed also takes a running dive off of the empire state building.
Not even close to worth it imo.
I ran into a dual tracking disruptor 75mm fit. Can't imagine it would do much against anything with missiles, but it pwnt my arty thrasher and merlin
True, it does do that. If you're just learning to fly my fit, yes it works, and is also much less forgiving so when u get the real thing ur like "zomg I'm so fuckin 1337 pr0 in this - it's EZ MODE compared to that corm."its also a LOAD cheaper. ideal for training or whateverYou gain a bit of dps/tracking, but lose all pretense of cap stability, what little tank you had takes the last train for the coast, and your speed also takes a running dive off of the empire state building.
Not even close to worth it imo.
I ran into a dual tracking disruptor 75mm fit. Can't imagine it would do much against anything with missiles, but it pwnt my arty thrasher and merlin
I would rather run this:
[Cormorant, gatatatat]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 100
Stasis Webifier II
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge S
[empty high slot]
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Option to kite, or get in close. Tracking is no issue with 125s + ship bonuses + javelin (if needed). You lack dual webs for true :awesometackle:, but you make up for it with 2k extra raw shield HP, or ~3k more EHP.(basically double).
Surprised this thread hasn't gotten a bump since the overhaul.
[Cormorant, standard 150 web]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[whatever]
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
no links/implants:
223/262 dps @ 20+7.5km @ .13 tracking
1735/2437 m/s
5410 EHP
the polycarb has saved my life on multiple occasions from gatecamps. i'm hesitant to switch it out for more ehp or dps.
if you've got isk to spare throw a faction web on there to trap frigates out at 17ish km and apply dps
Woudnt a semi be better, cap is pretty horrible?
With everything running, Arc's fit has 15 seconds less caplife (total 1:20) compared to my rail catalyst. I've never had cap issues with the catalyst, and I can't imagine it would be a problem on this either. Fights are almost always over too quick for it to matter. Or you could load lead. :P
Does iffa free up a rig slot?
IFFA and pseudo both, fit needs a 1% CPU hardwire in either case, but yeah.
Kiting Harpy is better in literally every way except ~20 dps and price, plud it has two webs and a long point /:
Actually an '06.
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And a cynabal is better except for the price and that it cant go into small plex.
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