The Dark Knight Rises

[Marlona Sky]

I am tapatapatalking, my tablet died and I cannot be fucking bothered. Someone start a separate thread about the shooting.

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

I made one so head there if you want to talk about the shooting.

About the film, I am very interested in what you guys thought. Please use spoilers as to not ruin it for those who have yet to see it.

[Cue1*]

The Dark Knight Rises, as sponsored by Heckler and Koch.

Fuck didn't even think of that but all the pistols were USPs as well. Damn. Fucking product placement.

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the biggest nitty bit that bugged me is that a decaying fusion reaction doesn't explode, but we've always known that the Batman series has lacked a level of believability, pulling finger prints of a scan of a shattered bullet in brick.

[Al Simmons]

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did anyone understand the thing with Bane's mask? And what was the point to the mask?

Dunno if this is spoiler worthy or not.

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Haven't seen the movie yet, but in the comics the mask feeds him the Venom serum, right? He's taken so much of it that he needs to take it almost constantly or he'll die.

[ChaeDoc II]

  Spoiler:

did anyone understand the thing with Bane's mask? And what was the point to the mask?

Dunno if this is spoiler worthy or not.

  Spoiler:

Haven't seen the movie yet, but in the comics the mask feeds him the Venom serum, right? He's taken so much of it that he needs to take it almost constantly or he'll die.

I believe this is true but not because I've read the comic or seen the movie but i read it on Politifact... of all places.

[Helen]

  Spoiler:

did anyone understand the thing with Bane's mask? And what was the point to the mask?

Dunno if this is spoiler worthy or not.

  Spoiler:

Haven't seen the movie yet, but in the comics the mask feeds him the Venom serum, right? He's taken so much of it that he needs to take it almost constantly or he'll die.

Pretty sure if its in the comics its common knowledge to any respectable nerd.

[Cue1*]

  Spoiler:

did anyone understand the thing with Bane's mask? And what was the point to the mask?

Dunno if this is spoiler worthy or not.

  Spoiler:

Haven't seen the movie yet, but in the comics the mask feeds him the Venom serum, right? He's taken so much of it that he needs to take it almost constantly or he'll die.

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After the Steph fisasco in the game of thrones thread, this is about the movie vs the comics. Don't open if you don't want to be spoiled.

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the movie said something about his pain or some shit. Batman beats him by smacking it and damaging it at some point.

[Marlona Sky]

Silly question about the rules of spoilers. Is there a certain time frame that passes where it is no longer necessary?

[tulip]

Silly question about the rules of spoilers. Is there a certain time frame that passes where it is no longer necessary?

Longer than a day.

Judging by the Game Of Thrones thread until the next series/sequel is out, i'd say at least until after the DVD/Blu-ray is out.

[Cue1*]

Silly question about the rules of spoilers. Is there a certain time frame that passes where it is no longer necessary?

Dvd seems to be the familiar answer, but apparently, judging by the game of thrones thread you'll also need to double spoil it or some shit if it's not the exact media. So when talking about the comic books in here, be wary.

[Alistair]

I think this thread summarizes the whole gun debate nicely.

Considered replying.

Realized futility of replying.

Posted empty reply anyway.

/shrug

I love me some FHC, but the Ameri-hate, Eurocentric, Liberal/Socialist viewpoint of the majority here puts the few individualist libertarians (like me) and conservatives in a no-win situation. We'll be shouted down and insulted no matter what we say or think.

This is another thing I don't get.. You aren't being responded to in an outrageously offensive manner, but by people responding calmly with a number of well established arguments as to why gun control (in countries where guns aren't as proliferate) was thought up, and why it has a number of listed beneficial effects on gun incidents and crimes, as based on a global statistics from a compilation of countries that exceed the size and population of the USA.

Instead of seemingly even considering that perhaps your opinion isn't as logically justified as you thought, and rationally going through all the arguments in your head and then making an educated decision based on the information at hand, you flat out dismiss any form of debate, mutual consensus or discussion by citing that those disagreeing with you here are implied to be of a certain demographic group (eurocentric, anti-american, liberal majority) that are out to "Shout down and insult" well intentioned conservatives, and that no matter how you respond you are in a "no-win situation".

I mean, you don't seem like a hillbilly, and I consider it important to respect and not judge people I disagree with, so I'm going to assume you are an intelligent man, sir. Can you not see, then, how you are employing (probably unintentionally) every flawed rhetoric in the proverbial book, and shutting down any possible avenue of debate by staunchly refusing to consider (and let me point out there is a fundamental difference between "admitting you're wrong" and "considering you COULD be wrong") that your perspective may not be reliably and logically sound.

I'm not advocating for you to repent and admit "defeat", because I understand that would be contra-productive and for most people (perhaps not you, I don't know you) would involve Pride in the matter, which would unnecessarily complicate matters.

But I am asking you to do the rational, logical thing and critically deconstruct your own opinions and attempt to find flawed reasoning in your own rationale. It's the intelligent thing to do, and I would like to consider you an intelligent man.

I discuss and debate U.S. Politics and Policy on another site. This issue, like most, is well-trodden territory.

It's not an issue of closed mindedness. It's an issue of been there, done that, know every bias and "side" there is, including (as I see it) the biases and views typical here at SHC.

A smart man knows when he will not be able to convince others on a topic. Wasted effort on such a task is not noble, walking away without argument is not a flaw or fault.

In truth, the error was to even post my first comment on the matter.

Now, on the On-Topic of the Movie Itself:

Marvel > DC

[XenosisReaper]

I think this thread summarizes the whole gun debate nicely.

Considered replying.

Realized futility of replying.

Posted empty reply anyway.

/shrug

I love me some FHC, but the Ameri-hate, Eurocentric, Liberal/Socialist viewpoint of the majority here puts the few individualist libertarians (like me) and conservatives in a no-win situation. We'll be shouted down and insulted no matter what we say or think.

This is another thing I don't get.. You aren't being responded to in an outrageously offensive manner, but by people responding calmly with a number of well established arguments as to why gun control (in countries where guns aren't as proliferate) was thought up, and why it has a number of listed beneficial effects on gun incidents and crimes, as based on a global statistics from a compilation of countries that exceed the size and population of the USA.

Instead of seemingly even considering that perhaps your opinion isn't as logically justified as you thought, and rationally going through all the arguments in your head and then making an educated decision based on the information at hand, you flat out dismiss any form of debate, mutual consensus or discussion by citing that those disagreeing with you here are implied to be of a certain demographic group (eurocentric, anti-american, liberal majority) that are out to "Shout down and insult" well intentioned conservatives, and that no matter how you respond you are in a "no-win situation".

I mean, you don't seem like a hillbilly, and I consider it important to respect and not judge people I disagree with, so I'm going to assume you are an intelligent man, sir. Can you not see, then, how you are employing (probably unintentionally) every flawed rhetoric in the proverbial book, and shutting down any possible avenue of debate by staunchly refusing to consider (and let me point out there is a fundamental difference between "admitting you're wrong" and "considering you COULD be wrong") that your perspective may not be reliably and logically sound.

I'm not advocating for you to repent and admit "defeat", because I understand that would be contra-productive and for most people (perhaps not you, I don't know you) would involve Pride in the matter, which would unnecessarily complicate matters.

But I am asking you to do the rational, logical thing and critically deconstruct your own opinions and attempt to find flawed reasoning in your own rationale. It's the intelligent thing to do, and I would like to consider you an intelligent man.

I discuss and debate U.S. Politics and Policy on another site. This issue, like most, is well-trodden territory.

It's not an issue of closed mindedness. It's an issue of been there, done that, know every bias and "side" there is, including (as I see it) the biases and views typical here at SHC.

A smart man knows when he will not be able to convince others on a topic. Wasted effort on such a task is not noble, walking away without argument is not a flaw or fault.

In truth, the error was to even post my first comment on the matter.

Now, on the On-Topic of the Movie Itself:

Marvel > DC

Train reading comprehension to at least II

In other news, heading to watch it tomorrow night, will bring a gasmask

[Cue1*]

I think this thread summarizes the whole gun debate nicely.

Considered replying.

Realized futility of replying.

Posted empty reply anyway.

/shrug

I love me some FHC, but the Ameri-hate, Eurocentric, Liberal/Socialist viewpoint of the majority here puts the few individualist libertarians (like me) and conservatives in a no-win situation. We'll be shouted down and insulted no matter what we say or think.

This is another thing I don't get.. You aren't being responded to in an outrageously offensive manner, but by people responding calmly with a number of well established arguments as to why gun control (in countries where guns aren't as proliferate) was thought up, and why it has a number of listed beneficial effects on gun incidents and crimes, as based on a global statistics from a compilation of countries that exceed the size and population of the USA.

Instead of seemingly even considering that perhaps your opinion isn't as logically justified as you thought, and rationally going through all the arguments in your head and then making an educated decision based on the information at hand, you flat out dismiss any form of debate, mutual consensus or discussion by citing that those disagreeing with you here are implied to be of a certain demographic group (eurocentric, anti-american, liberal majority) that are out to "Shout down and insult" well intentioned conservatives, and that no matter how you respond you are in a "no-win situation".

I mean, you don't seem like a hillbilly, and I consider it important to respect and not judge people I disagree with, so I'm going to assume you are an intelligent man, sir. Can you not see, then, how you are employing (probably unintentionally) every flawed rhetoric in the proverbial book, and shutting down any possible avenue of debate by staunchly refusing to consider (and let me point out there is a fundamental difference between "admitting you're wrong" and "considering you COULD be wrong") that your perspective may not be reliably and logically sound.

I'm not advocating for you to repent and admit "defeat", because I understand that would be contra-productive and for most people (perhaps not you, I don't know you) would involve Pride in the matter, which would unnecessarily complicate matters.

But I am asking you to do the rational, logical thing and critically deconstruct your own opinions and attempt to find flawed reasoning in your own rationale. It's the intelligent thing to do, and I would like to consider you an intelligent man.

I discuss and debate U.S. Politics and Policy on another site. This issue, like most, is well-trodden territory.

It's not an issue of closed mindedness. It's an issue of been there, done that, know every bias and "side" there is, including (as I see it) the biases and views typical here at SHC.

A smart man knows when he will not be able to convince others on a topic. Wasted effort on such a task is not noble, walking away without argument is not a flaw or fault.

In truth, the error was to even post my first comment on the matter.

Now, on the On-Topic of the Movie Itself:

Marvel > DC

Take it to the shooting thread(no, you don't get to have the last word). In this thread I plan to seriously discuss batman. In the shooting thread I plan to seriously troll the discussion. Don't mix the two, batman does not deserve any trolling.

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I really liked the movie, excellent ending to an amazing trilogy, just gotta wonder what it would be like if the Joker could have come back for the short reoccurring role like Scarecrow did.

Catwoman disappearing on the rooftop infront of him had me laughing like a madman.

[Matharos]

Saw the midnight showing last night. Suffering at work now as I got like 2 hours of sleep but goddamn it was worth it, even if the movie is stupidly long. I don't think there were any scenes cut.
Of course, as usual, the science is completely wrong, and everyone is walking around with m4 mag pouches on and g36s in their hands.

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did anyone understand the thing with Bane's mask? When he helped Miranda out, why was he attacked? And what was the point to the mask? Were they implying a love affair between Bane and Miranda? And while i'm asking questions, am I the only one who saw an amazing parallel to The World Id Not Enough?

I think it needs a rewatch, It was so long it was easy to miss bits and pieces/

[Jason Marshall]

Derp. Wrong thread.

[Traxio Nacho]

I have seen Dark Knight many number of times, but to my shame I still haven't seen Batman Begins, is it still worth watching the first one?

[Aurora148]

I have seen Dark Knight many number of times, but to my shame I still haven't seen Batman Begins, is it still worth watching the first one?

yes, apparently DKR calls back to a lot of the stuff in the first half of Begins.

[Cue1*]

I have seen Dark Knight many number of times, but to my shame I still haven't seen Batman Begins, is it still worth watching the first one?

Damn near required. The entire movie will just seem like mountains of fuck without having seen Batman Begins. DKR is basically Batman Begins 2.

[Daco]

So it was a good movie but it wasn't great. Dark Knight was definitely better then Rises.

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I just found the whole nuclear bomb thing was a bit weak and then calling it a fusion reactor and having it look like what it did, also saying a fusion reactor is degrading when it wouldn't ugh that stuff was annoying

I think this guys review sums what I feel up pretty well: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/vide...k-Knight-Rises (apart from the avengers mention I think rises was better than the avengers)

Also the scarecrow part was my favorite part, I just think how they had him and his lines were just awesome. It does make me wonder though what it would of turned out like if Heath Ledger hadn't of killed himself, like what would of the done with the Joker character.

[Spawinte]

It's a good movie but it dragged on a bit and felt more like a post apocalyptic disaster movie than a hero thing.

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If they're gonna make more of them with Joseph Gordon-Levitt he's going to have to put on some serious muscle.

[Rudolf Miller]

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Never let a disaster go to waste.