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    LOL at the Lib Dems not being anti-war at the time. They built their platform around being against the Iraq war, even when it meant being branded unpatriotic and even traitor.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8650811.html

    Jenkins told him he was doing the right thing, but other prominent party figures – including his predecessor Paddy Ashdown – were less supportive. I recall a conversation with a senior Lib Dem MP who called him “spineless” and another who said: “while Charles is hawking his conscience around, we’re going to lose every election in sight as Blair wins his Falklands.”
    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...ar-730741.html

    Its federal executive didn't oppose the war. In January 2003 it simply reiterated the conference decision and supported the Lib Dem MPs' line that there was "no compelling argument" for war "at the present time".
    On 18 March 2003 the Liberal Democrats voted against the motion allowing the government to take Britain to war against Iraq. But even as they voted against the government, the party's MPs fell into line behind it. Lib Dems abandoned talk of forcing the Prime Minister to prove the unproven case for war. Lib Dem conditions requiring a clear UN mandate and proof of a threat from Iraq melted away. Kennedy's view was that the decision had been made and the Lib Dems must give it their "genuine support".
    Basically the usual LD lip service. I think the only ones who were opposed the war properly were the Greens.
    So they voted against it and made the case that there was no compelling evidence. That doesn't sound supportive to me. The only support they gave was "if Iraq genuinely is making WMD, then the war could be justified", but no compelling evidence was forthcoming so they voted against it and were proven right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Capitano View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Capitano View Post
    LOL at the Lib Dems not being anti-war at the time. They built their platform around being against the Iraq war, even when it meant being branded unpatriotic and even traitor.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8650811.html

    Jenkins told him he was doing the right thing, but other prominent party figures – including his predecessor Paddy Ashdown – were less supportive. I recall a conversation with a senior Lib Dem MP who called him “spineless” and another who said: “while Charles is hawking his conscience around, we’re going to lose every election in sight as Blair wins his Falklands.”
    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...ar-730741.html

    Its federal executive didn't oppose the war. In January 2003 it simply reiterated the conference decision and supported the Lib Dem MPs' line that there was "no compelling argument" for war "at the present time".
    On 18 March 2003 the Liberal Democrats voted against the motion allowing the government to take Britain to war against Iraq. But even as they voted against the government, the party's MPs fell into line behind it. Lib Dems abandoned talk of forcing the Prime Minister to prove the unproven case for war. Lib Dem conditions requiring a clear UN mandate and proof of a threat from Iraq melted away. Kennedy's view was that the decision had been made and the Lib Dems must give it their "genuine support".
    Basically the usual LD lip service. I think the only ones who were opposed the war properly were the Greens.
    So they voted against it and made the case that there was no compelling evidence. That doesn't sound supportive to me. The only support they gave was "if Iraq genuinely is making WMD, then the war could be justified", but no compelling evidence was forthcoming so they voted against it and were proven right.
    Counterpoint: REEEEEEEEE LIBRULS!

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    Latest leak from nr 10.: Boris sought legal advice on whether it is legal to proroge parliament for 5 weeks so as to prevent it from blocking no-deal.

    So, although Boris said he is not attracted to the idea, he's obviously not that unattracted to the idea.

    This is what taking back control actually looks like then ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartholomeus Crane View Post
    Latest leak from nr 10.: Boris sought legal advice on whether it is legal to proroge parliament for 5 weeks so as to prevent it from blocking no-deal.

    So, although Boris said he is not attracted to the idea, he's obviously not that unattracted to the idea.

    This is what taking back control actually looks like then ...
    Boris taking back the control that rightly belongs in his hands from the pesky parliament and that annoying Bercow dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Capitano View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Meester View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Capitano View Post
    LOL at the Lib Dems not being anti-war at the time. They built their platform around being against the Iraq war, even when it meant being branded unpatriotic and even traitor.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8650811.html

    Jenkins told him he was doing the right thing, but other prominent party figures – including his predecessor Paddy Ashdown – were less supportive. I recall a conversation with a senior Lib Dem MP who called him “spineless” and another who said: “while Charles is hawking his conscience around, we’re going to lose every election in sight as Blair wins his Falklands.”
    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...ar-730741.html

    Its federal executive didn't oppose the war. In January 2003 it simply reiterated the conference decision and supported the Lib Dem MPs' line that there was "no compelling argument" for war "at the present time".
    On 18 March 2003 the Liberal Democrats voted against the motion allowing the government to take Britain to war against Iraq. But even as they voted against the government, the party's MPs fell into line behind it. Lib Dems abandoned talk of forcing the Prime Minister to prove the unproven case for war. Lib Dem conditions requiring a clear UN mandate and proof of a threat from Iraq melted away. Kennedy's view was that the decision had been made and the Lib Dems must give it their "genuine support".
    Basically the usual LD lip service. I think the only ones who were opposed the war properly were the Greens.
    So they voted against it and made the case that there was no compelling evidence. That doesn't sound supportive to me. The only support they gave was "if Iraq genuinely is making WMD, then the war could be justified", but no compelling evidence was forthcoming so they voted against it and were proven right.
    Unlike eg: Alexander De Peffer "Boris" Johnson, who supported and voted for the Iraq war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartholomeus Crane View Post
    Latest leak from nr 10.: Boris sought legal advice on whether it is legal to proroge parliament for 5 weeks so as to prevent it from blocking no-deal.

    So, although Boris said he is not attracted to the idea, he's obviously not that unattracted to the idea.

    This is what taking back control actually looks like then ...
    Aristos taking back control from the filthy proles.

    Next steps: building a new fleet of first-rates and mandatory longbow practice on Sundays again.
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    Primae noctis, soon in a parish near you!

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    I just got a (rather nice looking) red woolen jacket and a shilling delivered, not sure what this is about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Unlike eg: Alexander De Peffer "Boris" Johnson, who supported and voted for the Iraq war.
    'Iraq has WMD's' - your friend Tony Blair.

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    https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/insid...n-identity-uk/

    Wonder if meester or a friend of his shows up here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcaus View Post
    https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/insid...n-identity-uk/

    Wonder if meester or a friend of his shows up here
    The pathetic, openly domestic terrorist thinking on display there is painfully stupid as well. A bunch of racists who are too cowardly to be effective at it.

    I hope each and every one of those anti-British traitors is held accountable.
    meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meester View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Unlike eg: Alexander De Peffer "Boris" Johnson, who supported and voted for the Iraq war.
    'Iraq has WMD's' - your friend Tony Blair.
    So do you think "Boris" was stupid enough to believe him or corrupt enough that he didn't care?

    The latter would explain his haste to get out in front of the tax legislation that he and the Eton Boys are desperate to avoid, and his willingness to sign a deal giving the US a legislative veto over UK laws.

    You're OK with the US having a legislative veto over UK laws, right?
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    https://www.euronews.com/2019/08/26/...Speed=noscript

    "And take your higher paid jobs and corporation tax payments with you!"
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    So apparently the Dover Banksy Brexit mural got painted over.

    Quote Originally Posted by helgur View Post
    You (Isyel) are at the ranking top of all the other users in here that consistently just dishes out insults without any other content. You had it coming. Take it like a man and grow up.
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    Just in case this isn't clear by now (and it really shouldn't be necessary to point out, you're all grownups) saying that people should be killed because of their political or religious convictions IS NOT FUCKING OK. Tempban handed out in the movie thread. Apply a minimum of self control ffs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    https://www.euronews.com/2019/08/26/...Speed=noscript

    "And take your higher paid jobs and corporation tax payments with you!"
    All worth it! Remember: blue passports!

    Also remember Boris's new pronouncement: parliament doesn't get to decide when the UK leaves the EU. It just doesn't. Mmmkay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    https://www.euronews.com/2019/08/26/...Speed=noscript

    "And take your higher paid jobs and corporation tax payments with you!"
    We're also organising parties on the beach to wave Britain goodbye on the 31st of october.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    https://www.euronews.com/2019/08/26/...Speed=noscript

    "And take your higher paid jobs and corporation tax payments with you!"
    As you might expect, similar things happen in Germany: https://www.dw.com/en/brexit-drives-...any/a-48714940

    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsche Welle
    A record 2,062 foreign companies either set up shop or expanded their operations in Germany in 2018, acording to a report released Monday.

    The government-backed economic development agency German Trade and Invest (GTAI) said some 168 British companies had made Germany their home — or at least resettle part of their operations — in 2018.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartholomeus Crane View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    https://www.euronews.com/2019/08/26/...Speed=noscript

    "And take your higher paid jobs and corporation tax payments with you!"
    All worth it! Remember: blue passports!

    Also remember Boris's new pronouncement: parliament doesn't get to decide when the UK leaves the EU. It just doesn't. Mmmkay?
    Blue Passports, discontinued by the Holy Margaret Hilda under zero pressure from the EU - who didn't then and haven't since had any opinion on the colour of our passport covers, and now to be produced by a French company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bartholomeus Crane View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    https://www.euronews.com/2019/08/26/...Speed=noscript

    "And take your higher paid jobs and corporation tax payments with you!"
    All worth it! Remember: blue passports!

    Also remember Boris's new pronouncement: parliament doesn't get to decide when the UK leaves the EU. It just doesn't. Mmmkay?
    Blue Passports, discontinued by the Holy Margaret Hilda under zero pressure from the EU - who didn't then and haven't since had any opinion on the colour of our passport covers, and now to be produced by a French company.
    And you had to follow EU rules on getting offers for printing the said blue passports, which led to the French winning

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    So apparently the Dover Banksy Brexit mural got painted over.
    SJWs at work again!
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