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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    I cant' see why backing a second referendum let alone going full remain wouldn't also see a massive shedding of votes though. That's the other side of the argument which basically nobody talks about.
    They've already shed those votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elmicker View Post
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    I cant' see why backing a second referendum let alone going full remain wouldn't also see a massive shedding of votes though. That's the other side of the argument which basically nobody talks about.
    They've already shed those votes.
    It's not the members they're shedding ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by elmicker View Post
    Seumas Milne
    I'm not going to bother researching him, because I've gotten the drift from this thread, but I'd be wary of giving anyone who's parents lacked the foresight to give their offspring a name that wouldn't create a deep seated hatred of other people, power.
    meh

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    They went with the fudge: https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-circumstances

    Manuel Cortes, the TSSA’s general secretary, described the outcome of the meeting as, “Labour’s latest Brexit fudge”, adding that the party’s “unicorn demands” for a Brexit deal, would “in effect make us a rule-taker colony of Brussels”.

    “That’s the naked truth and we have missed an opportunity to tell it to voters like it is. We face a stark choice – a no-deal economic crash, vassalage or the best option, no Brexit at all,” he said.
    Quite right ...

    Yet more evidence of the Corbyn/Milne clique's complete and utter incompetence. This is going to cost Labour dearly ...

    (Friend of mine just whatsapped me to tell me he burned his Labour membership whatever. As he said he would do. He used to be a Corbynista back in the day, poor thing. Pretty active in the party as well (mostly thankless jobs). He's not the only one who said he would do this either. Who's going to pound those streets for Corbyn now, in the comming elections? While you internet lefties discuss the latest dialectics on a spaceships serious business forum.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
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    Seumas Milne
    I'm not going to bother researching him, because I've gotten the drift from this thread, but I'd be wary of giving anyone who's parents lacked the foresight to give their offspring a name that wouldn't create a deep seated hatred of other people, power.
    Two word description: Stalinist anti-Semite. Nuff said ...

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    Seumas Milne
    I'm not going to bother researching him, because I've gotten the drift from this thread, but I'd be wary of giving anyone who's parents lacked the foresight to give their offspring a name that wouldn't create a deep seated hatred of other people, power.
    Two word description: Stalinist anti-Semite. Nuff said ...
    Now there's an oxymoron if ever I've seen one...


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    I think that's three words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Totally Not Larkonnis View Post
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    Seumas Milne
    I'm not going to bother researching him, because I've gotten the drift from this thread, but I'd be wary of giving anyone who's parents lacked the foresight to give their offspring a name that wouldn't create a deep seated hatred of other people, power.
    Two word description: Stalinist anti-Semite. Nuff said ...
    Now there's an oxymoron if ever I've seen one...
    Why? Stalin was plenty anti-Semitic

    Edit: or did you tautology?
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    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartholomeus Crane View Post
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    Seumas Milne
    I'm not going to bother researching him, because I've gotten the drift from this thread, but I'd be wary of giving anyone who's parents lacked the foresight to give their offspring a name that wouldn't create a deep seated hatred of other people, power.
    Two word description: Stalinist anti-Semite. Nuff said ...
    You're off-message there. The memo that Tory Party Central Office sent to you clearly said to refer to him as a Trotskyite.

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    Lmao, still going at it in circles? Jesus Christ I hope you get paid for this you lot.

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    I mostly post while at work so... yes?
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodj Blake View Post
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    Seumas Milne
    I'm not going to bother researching him, because I've gotten the drift from this thread, but I'd be wary of giving anyone who's parents lacked the foresight to give their offspring a name that wouldn't create a deep seated hatred of other people, power.
    Two word description: Stalinist anti-Semite. Nuff said ...
    You're off-message there. The memo that Tory Party Central Office sent to you clearly said to refer to him as a Trotskyite.
    Except he is not. He's written article after article defending Stalin, Stalinism, containing anti-Semitic tropes a plenty. Here you have a guy who minimises both the Holocaust and the Holodomor. And he's Corbyn's 'brain'.

    Remember the whole hubbub about the working definition of anti-Semitism? That had Seumas Milne's fingerprints all over it. He 'redefined' it, primarily because he has been denying Israels' right to exist ever since he got back from a student trip (Oxford BTW, he's never done a hard day's Labour in his life, the very definition of a champagne Stalinist) to the middle east and Palestine. By rights he (and many of his hard left fellow travelers) should have been expelled from the Labour party by now. But his main fellow traveler is leader of the party, so there's that ...

    Nice foreword BTW, Corbyn ... I notice that you send Long-Bailey out to put the fire out ... again ...

    Let's at least be honest: the Corbyn/Milne clique have destroyed Labour's reputation with the Jewish community. And that's because they've been peddling anti-Semitic tropes ever since they started out on their political career. It's disgusting ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Totally Not Larkonnis View Post
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    Seumas Milne
    I'm not going to bother researching him, because I've gotten the drift from this thread, but I'd be wary of giving anyone who's parents lacked the foresight to give their offspring a name that wouldn't create a deep seated hatred of other people, power.
    Two word description: Stalinist anti-Semite. Nuff said ...
    Now there's an oxymoron if ever I've seen one...
    No it's not. Stalin persecuted the Jews after WW2. The doctor's plot didn't come to fruition because he died before he could finish it. And he always denied that the Holocaust was anything special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    I mostly post while at work so... yes?
    Likewise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartholomeus Crane View Post

    Nice foreword BTW, Corbyn ... I notice that you send Long-Bailey out to put the fire out ... again ...
    And is Tony Blair also anti-Semitic as he's one of dozens of people who have praised Hobson?


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    Ah yes, the current shadow cabinet is plotting their future roles in the politburo of the united soviets of great britain and northern ireland, obviously the most in demand position is Gen Sec of Pogroms.
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodj Blake View Post
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    Nice foreword BTW, Corbyn ... I notice that you send Long-Bailey out to put the fire out ... again ...
    And is Tony Blair also anti-Semitic as he's one of dozens of people who have praised Hobson?


    Is that praise? Really? Sort yourself out cultist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elmicker View Post
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    Nice foreword BTW, Corbyn ... I notice that you send Long-Bailey out to put the fire out ... again ...
    And is Tony Blair also anti-Semitic as he's one of dozens of people who have praised Hobson?


    Is that praise? Really? Sort yourself out cultist.
    https://michaelrosenblog.blogspot.co...how-about.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodj Blake View Post
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    Nice foreword BTW, Corbyn ... I notice that you send Long-Bailey out to put the fire out ... again ...
    And is Tony Blair also anti-Semitic as he's one of dozens of people who have praised Hobson?


    Is that praise? Really? Sort yourself out cultist.
    https://michaelrosenblog.blogspot.co...how-about.html
    Still doesn't make that praise. More cultist whataboutism to defend the indefensible.

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    Gordon Brown also quoted Hobson in the house at one point or another:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...c/13/labour.uk

    He also wrote a foreword for an edition of The Wealth of Nations, which is by modern standards an incredibly racist piece of work.

    EDIT: The Fabian Society also used him as inspiration in a 2010 essay by Stuart White, http://www.nextleft.org/2010/11/cleg...iberalism.html
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