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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    The tiers are all stupid since none of them restrict access to the places where the virus is mostly spread which is schools and workplaces.
    Is there data that says that schools spread the virus in the UK? Because it didn't in Germany. Every time they locked down schools or classes, they weren't the source for an outbreak.

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    Coronavirus measures have never really been about closing down the places where people have been getting infected. All the lockdowns essentially did was create a behavioural change in the general public that shocked them into adhering more closely to the pandemic measures, which was the factor that generally lowered cases.

    Unfortunately, since most governments around the world squandered the time they got between waves, the general public are significantly more likely to fuck off any new measures due to the perceived lack of trust in handling the pandemic. This was exacerbated in the UK especially by Doms eye exam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    The tiers are all stupid since none of them restrict access to the places where the virus is mostly spread which is schools and workplaces.
    Dambit, keckers, you know that won't protect shareholder value
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    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    The tiers are all stupid since none of them restrict access to the places where the virus is mostly spread which is schools and workplaces.
    I'm failing to see how the government can justify closing pubs and restricting 'in house' gathering, when you can still legitimately go to the gym, restaurants, workplaces and supermarkets, many of whom give no fucks about social distancing, have recirculating air handling systems and mediocre cleaning/isolation practices. It seems very un-thought through.


    There also seems to be an almost pathalogical unwillingness of the government to accept the problem of asymptomatic transmission within the population (anywhere from 50% - 80% of infected individuals appear to be asymptomatic). My workplace is going above and beyond with trying to keep its employees safe, but as per government advice, unless you are showing symptoms, you are considered safe, which opens the possibility of between 5% and 10% of people on site actuially having the virus...

    Shitting up eve for .... well, longer than most of you scumbags.

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    They're not unwilling to accept it, they're just unwilling to say out loud that the quicker we all get it and either die of it or don't, the quicker they can get back to their beautiful dream of the UK as Europe's Hong Kong only with even fewer restrictions on capital and even more easily exploited workers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    The tiers are all stupid since none of them restrict access to the places where the virus is mostly spread which is schools and workplaces.
    Is there data that says that schools spread the virus in the UK? Because it didn't in Germany. Every time they locked down schools or classes, they weren't the source for an outbreak.

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    That tracks with what we've seen in Sweden as well. Adults are the main vector of spread, childrens are barely a blip.

    Finland did a large study on this as well where they tested for the virus among 11 000 children and found only 5 infected. There are no reasons to close schools unless there is an active outbreak there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    The tiers are all stupid since none of them restrict access to the places where the virus is mostly spread which is schools and workplaces.
    Is there data that says that schools spread the virus in the UK? Because it didn't in Germany. Every time they locked down schools or classes, they weren't the source for an outbreak.

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    Not really, universities however are a different matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evil edna View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    The tiers are all stupid since none of them restrict access to the places where the virus is mostly spread which is schools and workplaces.
    Is there data that says that schools spread the virus in the UK? Because it didn't in Germany. Every time they locked down schools or classes, they weren't the source for an outbreak.

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    Not really, universities however are a different matter.
    Latest COVID surveilance report lists secondary schools as the largest source of outbreak clusters among educational settings (pg 18).

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    Interesting hadnt seen that, does make the schools open at all costs look rather worse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smegs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    The tiers are all stupid since none of them restrict access to the places where the virus is mostly spread which is schools and workplaces.
    I'm failing to see how the government can justify closing pubs and restricting 'in house' gathering, when you can still legitimately go to the gym, restaurants, workplaces and supermarkets, many of whom give no fucks about social distancing, have recirculating air handling systems and mediocre cleaning/isolation practices. It seems very un-thought through.


    There also seems to be an almost pathalogical unwillingness of the government to accept the problem of asymptomatic transmission within the population (anywhere from 50% - 80% of infected individuals appear to be asymptomatic). My workplace is going above and beyond with trying to keep its employees safe, but as per government advice, unless you are showing symptoms, you are considered safe, which opens the possibility of between 5% and 10% of people on site actuially having the virus...

    That's because they've completely cocked up testing so there isn't the capacity to determine asymptomatic carriers. Any mention of it just highlights their total incompetence.
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zekk Pacus View Post
    Yes but if we close any of those the chart goes down. The chart must be obeyed.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-b1078992.html

    SEX BANNED FOR COUPLES LIVING APART IN TIER TWO AND THREE AREAS UNDER NEW RESTRICTIONS
    You will go back to work and school, and no, you can't have sex.

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    [QUOTE=mewninn;1914115]
    Quote Originally Posted by Zekk Pacus View Post

    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-b1078992.html

    SEX BANNED FOR COUPLES LIVING APART IN TIER TWO AND THREE AREAS UNDER NEW RESTRICTIONS
    You will go back to work and school, and no, you can't have sex.
    Gl with that, sounds really retarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mewninn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Zekk Pacus View Post
    Yes but if we close any of those the chart goes down. The chart must be obeyed.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-b1078992.html

    SEX BANNED FOR COUPLES LIVING APART IN TIER TWO AND THREE AREAS UNDER NEW RESTRICTIONS
    You will go back to work and school, and no, you can't have sex.
    Is it banned if you're Dominic Cummings?
    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mewninn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Zekk Pacus View Post
    Yes but if we close any of those the chart goes down. The chart must be obeyed.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-b1078992.html

    SEX BANNED FOR COUPLES LIVING APART IN TIER TWO AND THREE AREAS UNDER NEW RESTRICTIONS
    You will go back to work and school, and no, you can't have sex.
    Is it banned if you're Dominic Cummings?
    If he is banned from having sex, that would make him Dominic Not-Cummings

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    Quote Originally Posted by evil edna View Post
    Interesting hadnt seen that, does make the schools open at all costs look rather worse
    Its consistent with the cases in Slovenia. After the summer holidays the number of cases started to rise. It really took off in October after the students came back and colder weather hit in.


    

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    Quote Originally Posted by mewninn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Zekk Pacus View Post
    Yes but if we close any of those the chart goes down. The chart must be obeyed.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-b1078992.html

    SEX BANNED FOR COUPLES LIVING APART IN TIER TWO AND THREE AREAS UNDER NEW RESTRICTIONS
    You will go back to work and school, and no, you can't have sex.


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    Ceilingcat, this is your moment

    Your people need you
    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Ceilingcat, this is your moment

    Your people need you
    universities please go back (and not because you're worth 9k p/a per student and the knockon to the surroundings) - you need to learn!

    also;

    don't have fun
    don't have special hugs with people you don't live with
    don't visit the fam and kill them

    laughable really. i get primary and some secondary needing contact - i've got three nieces and nephews under 12 and remote learning, especially for the young ones isn't realistic, but for 15+...

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    Quote Originally Posted by teds :D View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Ceilingcat, this is your moment

    Your people need you
    universities please go back (and not because you're worth 9k p/a per student and the knockon to the surroundings) - you need to learn!

    also;

    don't have fun
    don't have special hugs with people you don't live with
    don't visit the fam and kill them

    laughable really. i get primary and some secondary needing contact - i've got three nieces and nephews under 12 and remote learning, especially for the young ones isn't realistic, but for 15+...
    Yeah American universities tried this, but most have moved to remote courses by now. Impossible to tell 19 year olds to just live in their designated study-pod and not socialize. Complete waste of everyone's time and money

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    Quote Originally Posted by teds :D View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Ceilingcat, this is your moment

    Your people need you
    universities please go back (and not because you're worth 9k p/a per student and the knockon to the surroundings) - you need to learn!

    also;

    don't have fun
    don't have special hugs with people you don't live with
    don't visit the fam and kill them

    laughable really. i get primary and some secondary needing contact - i've got three nieces and nephews under 12 and remote learning, especially for the young ones isn't realistic, but for 15+...
    It truly is wonderful levels of dumb.

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