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    Real talk, travelers can fuck off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
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    There are massive problems in many traveler communities associated with their economic status and lack of social support. This manifests in criminality which local authorities are poorly equipped to deal with due to lack of fixed address and the insular, distrusting nature of the communities. They tick all the boxes for major risk factors relating to criminal and anti social behaviour.

    Where conscious efforts are made to address this there are good outcomes both inside and outside the traveling communities. Over half of semi permanent traveler sites created and invested in by local councils report below average crime rates. The major issues are from a minority of groups who are totally mobile.
    So maybe, just maybe, the language in the leaflet should say that, and not "dealing with incursions" which is inherently dehumanising language?

    Leaflets like that go to regional and are usually seen by a director-level person or someone in their office. Someone high up approved that language and needs to do better. That shouldn't be controversial.
    Nobody reads the leaflets anyway. Labour's problem isn't they have potentially problematic leaflets, it's that they have shit message discipline and no vision for the future.
    And here i thought you would have learned that class reductionism doesnt work by now

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    Quote Originally Posted by evil edna View Post
    Real talk, travelers can fuck off
    Woah, the only way labour will ever win an election is with the votes of the traveler criminal underworld
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcaus View Post
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    There are massive problems in many traveler communities associated with their economic status and lack of social support. This manifests in criminality which local authorities are poorly equipped to deal with due to lack of fixed address and the insular, distrusting nature of the communities. They tick all the boxes for major risk factors relating to criminal and anti social behaviour.

    Where conscious efforts are made to address this there are good outcomes both inside and outside the traveling communities. Over half of semi permanent traveler sites created and invested in by local councils report below average crime rates. The major issues are from a minority of groups who are totally mobile.
    So maybe, just maybe, the language in the leaflet should say that, and not "dealing with incursions" which is inherently dehumanising language?

    Leaflets like that go to regional and are usually seen by a director-level person or someone in their office. Someone high up approved that language and needs to do better. That shouldn't be controversial.
    Nobody reads the leaflets anyway. Labour's problem isn't they have potentially problematic leaflets, it's that they have shit message discipline and no vision for the future.
    And here i thought you would have learned that class reductionism doesnt work by now
    It works for the moneyed class who is heavily represented in global politics despite having no democratic mandate.
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Disco elysium is perfect game to explore class reductionism btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
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    There are massive problems in many traveler communities associated with their economic status and lack of social support. This manifests in criminality which local authorities are poorly equipped to deal with due to lack of fixed address and the insular, distrusting nature of the communities. They tick all the boxes for major risk factors relating to criminal and anti social behaviour.

    Where conscious efforts are made to address this there are good outcomes both inside and outside the traveling communities. Over half of semi permanent traveler sites created and invested in by local councils report below average crime rates. The major issues are from a minority of groups who are totally mobile.
    So maybe, just maybe, the language in the leaflet should say that, and not "dealing with incursions" which is inherently dehumanising language?

    Leaflets like that go to regional and are usually seen by a director-level person or someone in their office. Someone high up approved that language and needs to do better. That shouldn't be controversial.
    Nobody reads the leaflets anyway. Labour's problem isn't they have potentially problematic leaflets, it's that they have shit message discipline and no vision for the future.
    And here i thought you would have learned that class reductionism doesnt work by now
    It works for the moneyed class who is heavily represented in global politics despite having no democratic mandate.
    Have fun with your 50 years of tories

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcaus View Post
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    There are massive problems in many traveler communities associated with their economic status and lack of social support. This manifests in criminality which local authorities are poorly equipped to deal with due to lack of fixed address and the insular, distrusting nature of the communities. They tick all the boxes for major risk factors relating to criminal and anti social behaviour.

    Where conscious efforts are made to address this there are good outcomes both inside and outside the traveling communities. Over half of semi permanent traveler sites created and invested in by local councils report below average crime rates. The major issues are from a minority of groups who are totally mobile.
    So maybe, just maybe, the language in the leaflet should say that, and not "dealing with incursions" which is inherently dehumanising language?

    Leaflets like that go to regional and are usually seen by a director-level person or someone in their office. Someone high up approved that language and needs to do better. That shouldn't be controversial.
    Nobody reads the leaflets anyway. Labour's problem isn't they have potentially problematic leaflets, it's that they have shit message discipline and no vision for the future.
    And here i thought you would have learned that class reductionism doesnt work by now
    It works for the moneyed class who is heavily represented in global politics despite having no democratic mandate.
    Have fun with your 50 years of tories
    We've already had 42 years of them in a row, so only another 8 to go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcaus View Post
    And here i thought you would have learned that class reductionism doesnt work by now
    Identity reductionism is working much better instead! Well, definitely if you are a shareholder, that is.

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    WTF is going on there?!

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    Guns make the news, science doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmin View Post
    WTF is going on there?!

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    The Tories in their infinite wisdom (and totally not because they are authoritarians in waiting), have introduced a law that would allow them to lock up anyone attending a protest they deem 'inconvenient' or 'a nuisance' for anything up to 10 years .... But with such rock solid legal terms as 'inconvenient' and 'a nuisance', theres no way for them to possibly abuse the shit out of it at all, you know, given their whiter than white record of honesty and incorruptability.
    Shitting up eve for .... well, longer than most of you scumbags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmin View Post
    WTF is going on there?!

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    Nothing to see here, now move along OR GO TO JAIL FOR TEN YEARS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeromeDoutrande View Post
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    WTF is going on there?!

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    Nothing to see here, now move along OR GO TO JAIL FOR TEN YEARS.
    Jokes on you, the prole is already a nuisance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evil edna View Post
    Real talk, travelers can fuck off
    Quote Originally Posted by Tarminic View Post
    I would create a dragon made out of vaginas. Then I would create a dragon made out of dicks. Then I would have them fight to the death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeromeDoutrande View Post
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    WTF is going on there?!

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    Nothing to see here, now move along OR GO TO JAIL FOR TEN YEARS.
    Just to remind the common folk what utter contempt they're held in, this legislation is bring brought in during a period of time whilst emergency powers make it illegal to protest.

    It's ok though because all their scheming will come to naught if they attempt to introduce vaccination passports before the 20-30 cohort are even offered jabs, they will see the difference between protest and riot.
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    Just for the record, "sending a needy text" is never the right answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evil edna View Post
    Real talk, travelers can fuck off
    Unironically this...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Smegs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmin View Post
    WTF is going on there?!

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    The Tories in their infinite wisdom (and totally not because they are authoritarians in waiting), have introduced a law that would allow them to lock up anyone attending a protest they deem 'inconvenient' or 'a nuisance' for anything up to 10 years .... But with such rock solid legal terms as 'inconvenient' and 'a nuisance', theres no way for them to possibly abuse the shit out of it at all, you know, given their whiter than white record of honesty and incorruptability.
    Inconvenience and nuisance are actually well defined in the bill - they're whatever the Home Secretary deems them to be.

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    what the fuck is a traveler? is this just the peaky blinders IRL? the vassal state of Britian is gonna be a silly one

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    At least there isn't any pesky EU oversight sending nasty letters about eroding the justice system to deal with anymore. (Let's be honest, they unfortunately don't have any real power)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Coutu View Post
    what the fuck is a traveler? is this just the peaky blinders IRL? the vassal state of Britian is gonna be a silly one
    Nomadic white trash
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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