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    Quote Originally Posted by GeromeDoutrande View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leader...neral_election (green - approve, red - disapprove):

    Zionist media propaganda

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodj Blake View Post
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    And Corbyn prefers to be 'neutral' on Brexit, and let the people decide.

    I almost laughed at the latter, but then I remembered how utterly stupid this is, and that he's supposed to be the leader of a party who's membership is 90% remain (even without the student wing).
    What would happen if he did campaign though? Let's look at the possbilities:

    Supports Leave: you'll say he has to resign because he's at odds with the members
    Supports Remain and loses: you'll say he has to resign because he doesn't have the support of the country
    Supports Remain and wins: you'll say he didn't campaign hard enough and it was all down to Tom Watson or someone who should become the new leader
    Supports Remain and wins after doing three rallies every day, being the first item on the news every evening, appearing in every constituency at least once, and trending on Twitter every day of the campaign: you'll still say he didn't campaign hard enough and it was all down to Tom Watson or someone who should become the new leader, and anyone who disagrees with you is an addle-brained cultist.
    Well given he's just pre-empted the much-lauded party democracy by saying he's going to ignore whatever comes out of conference, we bloody well will now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elmicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GeromeDoutrande View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leader...neral_election (green - approve, red - disapprove):

    Zionist media propaganda
    That is significantly worse than Trumps approval rating over time in California, for a little perspective.
    meh

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    "We do not like that corby fellow as he might do crazy socialist stuff, at least we know that good old bojo can't manage to fire the gigantic bazooka aimed at his foot, surely..."

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    I would be ok with a competent implementation of labours manifesto pledges. Can corbyn be relied upon to deliver though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itiken View Post
    BJ / Tories are Communists now ?Scenes.
    Pot meet kettle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandzibar View Post
    Does that mean only lord emperor Farage can lead the cultists into the pure light of Brexit nirvana now Meester?
    You will note that among the sea of white faces in the European Parliament [never before have you seen so many!] that unfortunately your dreams of bland uniformity is broken you will see this fellow



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    I know you dream of the white man dominating the coloured man from his Empire in Europe but this is something that God-King Farage in his infinite wisdom is looking to crush utterly. A second Victory in Europe day approaches, praise Farage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
    I would be ok with a competent implementation of labours manifesto pledges. Can corbyn be relied upon to deliver though?
    Probably? I doubt the PLP would act as a barrier to legislation if he won a majority and there's enough vaguely competent MPs to put together an effective cabinet.
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodj Blake View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bartholomeus Crane View Post

    And Corbyn prefers to be 'neutral' on Brexit, and let the people decide.

    I almost laughed at the latter, but then I remembered how utterly stupid this is, and that he's supposed to be the leader of a party who's membership is 90% remain (even without the student wing).
    What would happen if he did campaign though? Let's look at the possbilities:

    Supports Leave: you'll say he has to resign because he's at odds with the members
    Supports Remain and loses: you'll say he has to resign because he doesn't have the support of the country
    Supports Remain and wins: you'll say he didn't campaign hard enough and it was all down to Tom Watson or someone who should become the new leader
    Supports Remain and wins after doing three rallies every day, being the first item on the news every evening, appearing in every constituency at least once, and trending on Twitter every day of the campaign: you'll still say he didn't campaign hard enough and it was all down to Tom Watson or someone who should become the new leader, and anyone who disagrees with you is an addle-brained cultist.
    If being a political leader is too hard for him, he can go back to the backbenches whenever he likes.

    Leaders don't get owned by the narrative, they set it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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    Depends how popular they are with the capitalist class.
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
    I would be ok with a competent implementation of labours manifesto pledges. Can corbyn be relied upon to deliver though?
    Probably? I doubt the PLP would act as a barrier to legislation if he won a majority and there's enough vaguely competent MPs to put together an effective cabinet.
    I dont trust him to stick to the party's promises if his personal position is different. And your assuming he would pick the competent ones rather than Diane Abbott.

    I'd rather have a coalition than a labour majority for this reason

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    I'm not sure where his personal positions differ much from the manifesto tbh. Abbott being incompetent is a right wing meme.
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
    I would be ok with a competent implementation of labours manifesto pledges. Can corbyn be relied upon to deliver though?
    Put it this way - who's more likely to implement Labour's manifesto pledges: Jeremy Corbyn, or Boris Johnson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodj Blake View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
    I would be ok with a competent implementation of labours manifesto pledges. Can corbyn be relied upon to deliver though?
    Put it this way - who's more likely to implement Labour's manifesto pledges: Jeremy Corbyn, or Boris Johnson?
    Kier Starmer.

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    I don’t give a shit what he does as long as he delivers that manifesto.

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    Both finland and france seem to have set a deadline for bojo; show us your plans by end of september. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49749465

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    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
    Both finland and france seem to have set a deadline for bojo; show us your plans by end of september. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49749465
    The plan is the hard Brexit. Threatening a hard Brexit when that is what BoJo wants is kinda moot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan Dax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
    Both finland and france seem to have set a deadline for bojo; show us your plans by end of september. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49749465
    The plan is the hard Brexit. Threatening a hard Brexit when that is what BoJo wants is kinda moot.
    Is there any chance for the parliment to move to a vote of no confidence and go with an early election if thats the case? Because as predicted countries in EU are getting kinda sick and tired of internal tory problems becoming eu problems.


    

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan Dax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
    Both finland and france seem to have set a deadline for bojo; show us your plans by end of september. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49749465
    The plan is the hard Brexit. Threatening a hard Brexit when that is what BoJo wants is kinda moot.
    What he wants is for hard brexit to be not his fault.

    I know it seems laughable to us. but remember that there are a lot of people who will clutch at any straw to believe this, no matter how flimsy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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    Depends, if EU says "GTFO" at the end of september then the parliament is still out waiting for the fat lady oh I mean the queen to speak. Any extensions and other things require full support from each remaining eu member.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeekar View Post
    Because as predicted countries in EU are getting kinda sick and tired of internal tory problems becoming eu problems.
    We've been sick and tired of internal tory problems for the last hundred years. They don't really care
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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