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    Quote Originally Posted by Meester View Post
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    When was the last time a country was so thoroughly let down by their ruling class
    Venezuela in recent history. Hong Kong. I think the lesson here is that communists cannot be trusted.
    BJ / Tories are Communists now ?
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    Does that mean only lord emperor Farage can lead the cultists into the pure light of Brexit nirvana now Meester?

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    I see Liz Truss has admitted to "accidentally" approving some illegal arms export licences to Saudi Arabia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodj Blake View Post
    I see Liz Truss has admitted to "accidentally" approving some illegal arms export licences to Saudi Arabia.
    Oh come on, who reads those?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodj Blake View Post
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    When was the last time a country was so thoroughly let down by their ruling class
    Zimbabwe?
    *Rhodesia

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    UK can't even shoot themselves in the foot properly.

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    I hear Labour just abolished it (far too centrist, I suppose) student wing?

    And Corbyn prefers to be 'neutral' on Brexit, and let the people decide.

    I almost laughed at the latter, but then I remembered how utterly stupid this is, and that he's supposed to be the leader of a party who's membership is 90% remain (even without the student wing).

    Perhaps the UK can't even shoot itself in the foot properly, but Corbyn sure seems to be an expert at shooting Labour in the foot.

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    If it wasn't Corbyn doing it most would be delighted that Student Labour is being disaffiliated. It was a pretty dead organisation, last election they held had 500 votes out of a membership of 35k and I'm pretty sure they aren't even bothering holding their conferences any more.

    Better to roll it into Young Labour without it being specifically for university goers.
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    Wasn't even 500 votes. Like the whole NUS it was about time it was put out to pasture, it's just a pity it was done in such a grubby, student politicky way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartholomeus Crane View Post
    And Corbyn prefers to be 'neutral' on Brexit, and let the people decide.

    I almost laughed at the latter, but then I remembered how utterly stupid this is,
    I don't think this is as stupid as it might seem on first glance. Corbyn is known as a euro-skeptic ( or even anti-EU, not sure ).
    Voters might think he is likely to force "leave" in some way, they might vote LibDem even if they are historically a Labour voter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartholomeus Crane View Post

    And Corbyn prefers to be 'neutral' on Brexit, and let the people decide.

    I almost laughed at the latter, but then I remembered how utterly stupid this is, and that he's supposed to be the leader of a party who's membership is 90% remain (even without the student wing).
    What would happen if he did campaign though? Let's look at the possbilities:

    Supports Leave: you'll say he has to resign because he's at odds with the members
    Supports Remain and loses: you'll say he has to resign because he doesn't have the support of the country
    Supports Remain and wins: you'll say he didn't campaign hard enough and it was all down to Tom Watson or someone who should become the new leader
    Supports Remain and wins after doing three rallies every day, being the first item on the news every evening, appearing in every constituency at least once, and trending on Twitter every day of the campaign: you'll still say he didn't campaign hard enough and it was all down to Tom Watson or someone who should become the new leader, and anyone who disagrees with you is an addle-brained cultist.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leader...neral_election (green - approve, red - disapprove):


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    Quote Originally Posted by GeromeDoutrande View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leader...neral_election (green - approve, red - disapprove):

    Zionist media propaganda

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodj Blake View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bartholomeus Crane View Post

    And Corbyn prefers to be 'neutral' on Brexit, and let the people decide.

    I almost laughed at the latter, but then I remembered how utterly stupid this is, and that he's supposed to be the leader of a party who's membership is 90% remain (even without the student wing).
    What would happen if he did campaign though? Let's look at the possbilities:

    Supports Leave: you'll say he has to resign because he's at odds with the members
    Supports Remain and loses: you'll say he has to resign because he doesn't have the support of the country
    Supports Remain and wins: you'll say he didn't campaign hard enough and it was all down to Tom Watson or someone who should become the new leader
    Supports Remain and wins after doing three rallies every day, being the first item on the news every evening, appearing in every constituency at least once, and trending on Twitter every day of the campaign: you'll still say he didn't campaign hard enough and it was all down to Tom Watson or someone who should become the new leader, and anyone who disagrees with you is an addle-brained cultist.
    Well given he's just pre-empted the much-lauded party democracy by saying he's going to ignore whatever comes out of conference, we bloody well will now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elmicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GeromeDoutrande View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leader...neral_election (green - approve, red - disapprove):

    Zionist media propaganda
    That is significantly worse than Trumps approval rating over time in California, for a little perspective.
    meh

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    "We do not like that corby fellow as he might do crazy socialist stuff, at least we know that good old bojo can't manage to fire the gigantic bazooka aimed at his foot, surely..."

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    I would be ok with a competent implementation of labours manifesto pledges. Can corbyn be relied upon to deliver though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itiken View Post
    BJ / Tories are Communists now ?Scenes.
    Pot meet kettle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandzibar View Post
    Does that mean only lord emperor Farage can lead the cultists into the pure light of Brexit nirvana now Meester?
    You will note that among the sea of white faces in the European Parliament [never before have you seen so many!] that unfortunately your dreams of bland uniformity is broken you will see this fellow



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    I know you dream of the white man dominating the coloured man from his Empire in Europe but this is something that God-King Farage in his infinite wisdom is looking to crush utterly. A second Victory in Europe day approaches, praise Farage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
    I would be ok with a competent implementation of labours manifesto pledges. Can corbyn be relied upon to deliver though?
    Probably? I doubt the PLP would act as a barrier to legislation if he won a majority and there's enough vaguely competent MPs to put together an effective cabinet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodj Blake View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bartholomeus Crane View Post

    And Corbyn prefers to be 'neutral' on Brexit, and let the people decide.

    I almost laughed at the latter, but then I remembered how utterly stupid this is, and that he's supposed to be the leader of a party who's membership is 90% remain (even without the student wing).
    What would happen if he did campaign though? Let's look at the possbilities:

    Supports Leave: you'll say he has to resign because he's at odds with the members
    Supports Remain and loses: you'll say he has to resign because he doesn't have the support of the country
    Supports Remain and wins: you'll say he didn't campaign hard enough and it was all down to Tom Watson or someone who should become the new leader
    Supports Remain and wins after doing three rallies every day, being the first item on the news every evening, appearing in every constituency at least once, and trending on Twitter every day of the campaign: you'll still say he didn't campaign hard enough and it was all down to Tom Watson or someone who should become the new leader, and anyone who disagrees with you is an addle-brained cultist.
    If being a political leader is too hard for him, he can go back to the backbenches whenever he likes.

    Leaders don't get owned by the narrative, they set it.
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