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    Can somebody actually explain how Labour has been anti-semitic please?

    Is it just disagreeing with Israel's policies, or closer to the perceived "capitalistic nature" of Jews? Or even just outright racism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteeleResolve View Post
    Can somebody actually explain how Labour has been anti-semitic please?

    Is it just disagreeing with Israel's policies, or closer to the perceived "capitalistic nature" of Jews? Or even just outright racism?
    It's a strange one, because it's pretty easy to find conservative MP's with publically racist views, called out for racist policies (eg windrush) all the while, trying to out UKIP the remanence of Farage - but with Labour, to actually find evidence of antisemitism, you have to look at party members and activists.

    Meanwhile, BBC presenters get strung up for explaining that Trump says racist shit. Shrugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodj Blake View Post
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    I don't hear many jewish people complaining about the Conservatives, who did the Chief Rabbi attack again?
    Plenty of Jewish people don't like the Tories, they just don't get the airtime to present their views.

    For a start, go follow the poet Michael Rosen on Twitter. You might learn something about how this all works.
    Here's a convenient list of examples.

    https://www.antisemitism.org.uk/wp-c...-Version-4.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saul View Post
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    I don't hear many jewish people complaining about the Conservatives, who did the Chief Rabbi attack again?
    Plenty of Jewish people don't like the Tories, they just don't get the airtime to present their views.

    For a start, go follow the poet Michael Rosen on Twitter. You might learn something about how this all works.
    Here's a convenient list of examples.

    https://www.antisemitism.org.uk/wp-c...-Version-4.pdf
    lets expand that url......
    ww.antisemitism.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/MASTER-CONSERVATIVE-PARTY-BRIEFING-12-04-2019-PDF-Version-4.pdf

    i am shocked. Shocked


    Do they have a specific Labour briefing to compare btw? retarded to compare bit thats what we are trying to do so hey ho lets get accurate!
    Last edited by Duckslayer; December 2 2019 at 02:55:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckslayer View Post
    MASTER-CONSERVATIVE-PARTY-BRIEFING-12-04-2019-PDF-Version-4.pdf
    It really makes you think.

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    Left wing jews aren't jewish enough to listen to. Checkmate socialists!
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartholomeus Crane View Post
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    MASTER-CONSERVATIVE-PARTY-BRIEFING-12-04-2019-PDF-Version-4.pdf
    It really makes you think.
    Think what exactly?
    Its a callback


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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckslayer View Post
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    I don't hear many jewish people complaining about the Conservatives, who did the Chief Rabbi attack again?
    Plenty of Jewish people don't like the Tories, they just don't get the airtime to present their views.

    For a start, go follow the poet Michael Rosen on Twitter. You might learn something about how this all works.
    Here's a convenient list of examples.

    https://www.antisemitism.org.uk/wp-c...-Version-4.pdf
    lets expand that url......
    ww.antisemitism.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/MASTER-CONSERVATIVE-PARTY-BRIEFING-12-04-2019-PDF-Version-4.pdf

    i am shocked. Shocked


    Do they have a specific Labour briefing to compare btw? retarded to compare bit thats what we are trying to do so hey ho lets get accurate!
    They've got a document for Labour, Lib Dems and SNP, as you'd know if you'd bothered to look. The point was to rebut Meester's nonsensical comment about the absence of Tory antisemitism. At no point did I claim the other parties were in some way immune.

    What exactly does the URL have to do with anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saul View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Duckslayer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Saul View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rodj Blake View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Meester View Post

    I don't hear many jewish people complaining about the Conservatives, who did the Chief Rabbi attack again?
    Plenty of Jewish people don't like the Tories, they just don't get the airtime to present their views.

    For a start, go follow the poet Michael Rosen on Twitter. You might learn something about how this all works.
    Here's a convenient list of examples.

    https://www.antisemitism.org.uk/wp-c...-Version-4.pdf
    lets expand that url......
    ww.antisemitism.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/MASTER-CONSERVATIVE-PARTY-BRIEFING-12-04-2019-PDF-Version-4.pdf

    i am shocked. Shocked


    Do they have a specific Labour briefing to compare btw? retarded to compare bit thats what we are trying to do so hey ho lets get accurate!
    They've got a document for Labour, Lib Dems and SNP, as you'd know if you'd bothered to look. The point was to rebut Meester's nonsensical comment about the absence of Tory antisemitism. At no point did I claim the other parties were in some way immune.

    What exactly does the URL have to do with anything?

    I guess people are reading it as if it was from the Conservative Party (Pretty sure none read the actual document. myself included).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caldrion Dosto View Post
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    I don't hear many jewish people complaining about the Conservatives, who did the Chief Rabbi attack again?
    Plenty of Jewish people don't like the Tories, they just don't get the airtime to present their views.

    For a start, go follow the poet Michael Rosen on Twitter. You might learn something about how this all works.
    Here's a convenient list of examples.

    https://www.antisemitism.org.uk/wp-c...-Version-4.pdf
    lets expand that url......
    ww.antisemitism.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/MASTER-CONSERVATIVE-PARTY-BRIEFING-12-04-2019-PDF-Version-4.pdf

    i am shocked. Shocked


    Do they have a specific Labour briefing to compare btw? retarded to compare bit thats what we are trying to do so hey ho lets get accurate!
    They've got a document for Labour, Lib Dems and SNP, as you'd know if you'd bothered to look. The point was to rebut Meester's nonsensical comment about the absence of Tory antisemitism. At no point did I claim the other parties were in some way immune.

    What exactly does the URL have to do with anything?

    I guess people are reading it as if it was from the Conservative Party (Pretty sure none read the actual document. myself included).
    Then they're daft. It's a list compiled by an antisemitism charity/lobby listing examples of Tory anti-semitism. The charity also has lists of examples from the other main parties at the same source url. Just making the point that there's plenty of anti-semitism in bojo's party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saul View Post
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    I don't hear many jewish people complaining about the Conservatives, who did the Chief Rabbi attack again?
    Plenty of Jewish people don't like the Tories, they just don't get the airtime to present their views.

    For a start, go follow the poet Michael Rosen on Twitter. You might learn something about how this all works.
    Here's a convenient list of examples.

    https://www.antisemitism.org.uk/wp-c...-Version-4.pdf
    lets expand that url......
    ww.antisemitism.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/MASTER-CONSERVATIVE-PARTY-BRIEFING-12-04-2019-PDF-Version-4.pdf

    i am shocked. Shocked


    Do they have a specific Labour briefing to compare btw? retarded to compare bit thats what we are trying to do so hey ho lets get accurate!
    They've got a document for Labour, Lib Dems and SNP, as you'd know if you'd bothered to look. The point was to rebut Meester's nonsensical comment about the absence of Tory antisemitism. At no point did I claim the other parties were in some way immune.

    What exactly does the URL have to do with anything?

    I guess people are reading it as if it was from the Conservative Party (Pretty sure none read the actual document. myself included).
    Then they're daft. It's a list compiled by an antisemitism charity/lobby listing examples of Tory anti-semitism. The charity also has lists of examples from the other main parties at the same source url. Just making the point that there's plenty of anti-semitism in bojo's party.
    If id bothered to look? you posted a pdf about Conservative antisemitism, and i asked if there was some for the other parties. No agenda, i've never seen it laid out so concisely and genuinely didnt know it was that much of an issue with the conservatives as they seem to throw an awful lot of shade at others. At no point did i accuse you of saying other parties are immune. Clearly they aren't but id rather read this format than the telegraph or the jewish chronicle or whatever

    Tbf i didnt think about fucking with the url but figured you linked it you may have the links to the other parties to provide.

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    Can the thread be renamed to "BoJo's Bizarre Adventure [UK politics thread]"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckslayer View Post
    If id bothered to look? you posted a pdf about Conservative antisemitism, and i asked if there was some for the other parties. No agenda, i've never seen it laid out so concisely and genuinely didnt know it was that much of an issue with the conservatives as they seem to throw an awful lot of shade at others. At no point did i accuse you of saying other parties are immune. Clearly they aren't but id rather read this format than the telegraph or the jewish chronicle or whatever

    Tbf i didnt think about fucking with the url but figured you linked it you may have the links to the other parties to provide.
    Fair enough, thought you were accusing me of posting tory propaganda or something. Misunderstanding - my bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordstern View Post
    Can the thread be renamed to "BoJo's Bizarre Adventure [UK politics thread]"?
    I can't Brexit you without getting closer.

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    We're a normal sized polling error away from a Corbyn government
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    We're a normal sized polling error away from a Corbyn government
    Voted for our local Crusty Old Gardener representative.

    It was the least terrible choice imo. How very depressing.

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    First Dog on the Moon knows the score:

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    The Labour party actually offer the country a future which isn't becoming an American vassal state where everyone outside the top 95% of earners is told life is hard and we have to accept managed decline.
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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