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    And ofc the education of one's parents.
    I get the feeling that matters most in Germany. Looking at the figures your secondary education system doesn't do much to promote social mobility.
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    "don't be a cunt"

    is the worst most nebulous 'rule' you could possibly have and pmuch just ensures the exact opposite is gonna happen
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    TBH, that's basically just the tl;dr version of Kant's Categorical Imperative.
    "Don't be a Kant"
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    Fwiw if you take religious studies at a-level in the UK Kant features heavily. Both in the context of religious philosophy/existence of God and ethics/meta ethics etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
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    And ofc the education of one's parents.
    I get the feeling that matters most in Germany. Looking at the figures your secondary education system doesn't do much to promote social mobility.
    Indirectly, as good education correlates with good income, which is what mostly causes the dire issue you pointed out.

    It's also cultural thing, which fortunately is changing (too) slowly: in Germany, if you didn't have the right certificates, companies wouldn't consider you for the jobs offered, although you would be very well capable of fulfilling the job's role. So those with an officaly low education, but highly talented and self-taught wouldn't get a chance to get into a position to start a good earning career. Which then led to their children going through the same experience.

    Needless to say that this is very frustrating for them. Which is a shame, as that's sooo much wasted potential. Especially for a(n aging) society like Germany, whose economy depends so much on intellectual achievements, because e.g. of the complete lack of natural resources. We literally have nothing to sell except our engineering skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
    Don't blame Joe, blame (or rather praise) our education system.

    It also depends upon which Gymnasium someone has attended, "Humanistisch" (Humanistic) or "Naturwissenschaftlich" (Scientific). Also: teachers interested in teaching not only according the curriculum, but also broader general knowledge. Sometimes even not associated with their specific subject area.

    And ofc the education of one's parents.
    Those different kinds of Gymnasien don't exist everywhere mate. But yeah, we have tons of freedom in what we teach.
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    And ofc the education of one's parents.
    I get the feeling that matters most in Germany. Looking at the figures your secondary education system doesn't do much to promote social mobility.
    It's absolutely atrocious. The split between Gymnasium and Sekundarschule should be according to scholastic ability. It is according to income. I teach at a Sekundarschule and about half of our students come from families on welfare. There have been tons of studies as to why it is a vicious circle but the best chance to change that would be to get rid of the Gymnasium, but that has a massive lobby so it won't happen.
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    Is this some version of Goodwin's law, where all discussions eventually end up about the German school system?
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    But islamism IS a product of class warfare. Rich white countries come into developing brown dictatorships, wreck the leadership, infrastructure and economy and then act all surprised that religious fanaticism is on the rise.
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    Marmeladingers law

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    Quote Originally Posted by teds :D View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Is this some version of Goodwin's law, where all discussions eventually end up about the German school system?
    It's an interesting topic tbf
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    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
    Don't blame Joe, blame (or rather praise) our education system.

    It also depends upon which Gymnasium someone has attended, "Humanistisch" (Humanistic) or "Naturwissenschaftlich" (Scientific). Also: teachers interested in teaching not only according the curriculum, but also broader general knowledge. Sometimes even not associated with their specific subject area.

    And ofc the education of one's parents.
    Those different kinds of Gymnasien don't exist everywhere mate. But yeah, we have tons of freedom in what we teach.
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    And ofc the education of one's parents.
    I get the feeling that matters most in Germany. Looking at the figures your secondary education system doesn't do much to promote social mobility.
    It's absolutely atrocious. The split between Gymnasium and Sekundarschule should be according to scholastic ability. It is according to income. I teach at a Sekundarschule and about half of our students come from families on welfare. There have been tons of studies as to why it is a vicious circle but the best chance to change that would be to get rid of the Gymnasium, but that has a massive lobby so it won't happen.
    You have classical gymnasiums and regular ones in slovenia. the classical one has more emphasis on the philosophical and historical subjects. There is also a further subdivision in regular ones since you have different emphasis depending on class. One are more language based other more math/natural sciences others are neutral. But if i'm not mistaken the latter is depending on which gymnasium you go to.


    

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeekar View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
    Don't blame Joe, blame (or rather praise) our education system.

    It also depends upon which Gymnasium someone has attended, "Humanistisch" (Humanistic) or "Naturwissenschaftlich" (Scientific). Also: teachers interested in teaching not only according the curriculum, but also broader general knowledge. Sometimes even not associated with their specific subject area.

    And ofc the education of one's parents.
    Those different kinds of Gymnasien don't exist everywhere mate. But yeah, we have tons of freedom in what we teach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
    And ofc the education of one's parents.
    I get the feeling that matters most in Germany. Looking at the figures your secondary education system doesn't do much to promote social mobility.
    It's absolutely atrocious. The split between Gymnasium and Sekundarschule should be according to scholastic ability. It is according to income. I teach at a Sekundarschule and about half of our students come from families on welfare. There have been tons of studies as to why it is a vicious circle but the best chance to change that would be to get rid of the Gymnasium, but that has a massive lobby so it won't happen.
    You have classical gymnasiums and regular ones in slovenia. the classical one has more emphasis on the philosophical and historical subjects. There is also a further subdivision in regular ones since you have different emphasis depending on class. One are more language based other more math/natural sciences others are neutral. But if i'm not mistaken the latter is depending on which gymnasium you go to.
    So you copied the West German system. The Finnish school system took a lot of hints from the East German one back in the 70s or so. The Finnish school system is one of the best performing in the world.

    When East Germany joined the FRG they changed the East German system to the Western one with some adjustments. It was an interesting and also a frustrating time for the teachers - my mother was a teacher with almost 20 years of experience before the Reunification. Each of the 16 states has its own education system. Each shares a lot of similarities, but each is also different in many ways, some major, some minor. I studied and trained to be a teacher in Thuringia, was a both a school student and a teacher in Brandenburg and now teach in Berlin. So I had to deal with three systems. Let's just say it's quite frustrating when you are facing issues that were solved or done in a simpler manner in other states.
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    Can we just declare FHC a bastion of socialism and be done with it?
    Like all socialist or liberal groups there has to be constant bickering of increasing toxicity until there is only one small clique left that everyone hates.
    Let me introduce to pillars of community like Keckers, Liare and Isyel....
    i'm truly not sorry if pointing out just how shockingly huge assholes some of you are is so toxic.

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    lmao, thank you for the effort

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoffl View Post
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    I made it with KDEnlive. Which is a first. Might be doing more of these once I get a nack for mastering how you do effects in it

    e: also if you are going to launch a tirade against me via PM's on discord and then blocking me from responding to said tirade, don't expect any courtesy of me listening to your complaints in the future either.
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    but hes only trolling!

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