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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlona Sky View Post
    For you chuckle fucks who still don’t get it:

    Nice broken link to whatever right wing garbage the youtube algorithm is serving up to fragile white males.
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Marlona Sky View Post
    For you chuckle fucks who still don’t get it:

    Nice broken link to whatever right wing garbage the youtube algorithm is serving up to fragile white males.
    it's a 12 minute video with a 2nd amendment transphobe, but he's a black man, so to Marlona that means we automatically listen to what he has to say, or some such nonsense.

    idk, not watching the video, when people start to argue legality in response to the gunning down unarmed civilians, they've already conceded the argument and have nothing of value to add.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liare View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Marlona Sky View Post
    For you chuckle fucks who still don’t get it:

    Nice broken link to whatever right wing garbage the youtube algorithm is serving up to fragile white males.
    it's a 12 minute video with a 2nd amendment transphobe, but he's a black man, so to Marlona that means we automatically listen to what he has to say, or some such nonsense.

    idk, not watching the video, when people start to argue legality in response to the gunning down unarmed civilians, they've already conceded the argument and have nothing of value to add.
    You are so sad and pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlona Sky View Post
    You are so sad and pathetic.
    coming from somebody pushing conspiracy theories and cheering fash/fash-adjecent murderers, that's a pretty nice compliment. so thanks.

    edit : this is going to end well.
    Last edited by Liare; August 29 2020 at 11:37:50 AM.
    Viking, n.:
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    2. Bloodthirsty sea pirates who ravaged northern Europe beginning in the 9th century.

    Hagar's note: The first definition is much preferred; the second is used only by malcontents, the envious, and disgruntled owners of waterfront property.

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    They were armed. One of them had a gun. They were likely going to beat him to death.

    Normal people don't drive 40 minutes to burn down buildings in a neighboring town.

    Normal people don't have their parents drive them 30 minutes to protect a fucking autozone with rifles.

    They're all animals and belong in cages. Or as otherwise known, just normal Americans these days.

    Keep the travel ban up Ursula.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Approaching Walrus View Post
    They were armed. One of them had a gun. They were likely going to beat him to death.

    Normal people don't drive 40 minutes to burn down buildings in a neighboring town.

    Normal people don't have their parents drive them 30 minutes to protect a fucking autozone with rifles.

    They're all animals and belong in cages. Or as otherwise known, just normal Americans these days.

    Keep the travel ban up Ursula.

    I thought that the first guy he murdered was unarmed? He did throw a plastic bag at him which is pretty scary when you are carrying an AR I suppose.

    Either way, the kid's lifelong dream of becoming a cop is off to a great start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liare View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Marlona Sky View Post
    You are so sad and pathetic.
    coming from somebody pushing conspiracy theories and cheering fash/fash-adjecent murderers, that's a pretty nice compliment. so thanks.

    edit : this is going to end well.
    Oh, that's nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gibson banjer View Post
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    They were armed. One of them had a gun. They were likely going to beat him to death.

    Normal people don't drive 40 minutes to burn down buildings in a neighboring town.

    Normal people don't have their parents drive them 30 minutes to protect a fucking autozone with rifles.

    They're all animals and belong in cages. Or as otherwise known, just normal Americans these days.

    Keep the travel ban up Ursula.

    I thought that the first guy he murdered was unarmed? He did throw a plastic bag at him which is pretty scary when you are carrying an AR I suppose.

    Either way, the kid's lifelong dream of becoming a cop is off to a great start.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/u...ing-video.html

    First shooting
    While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.

    Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.
    Why is it so hard for you people to admit that everyone involved here is a bunch of violent bloodthirsty lunatics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liare View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Marlona Sky View Post
    You are so sad and pathetic.
    coming from somebody pushing conspiracy theories and cheering fash/fash-adjecent murderers, that's a pretty nice compliment. so thanks.

    edit : this is going to end well.

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    wow americans are really good people these days, definitely not an entire nation gripped by mass psychosis

    URSULA VON DER LEYEN MUST MAINTAIN THE TRAVEL BAN UNTIL ORDER IS RESTORED IN THE UNITED STATES

    KEEP THEM OUT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Approaching Walrus View Post


    wow americans are really good people these days, definitely not an entire nation gripped by mass psychosis

    URSULA VON DER LEYEN MUST MAINTAIN THE TRAVEL BAN UNTIL ORDER IS RESTORED IN THE UNITED STATES

    KEEP THEM OUT
    And deport all Americans back to their shithole so they don't spread their disease here!

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    I'm not unsympathetic to a nuanced view on what happened that evening, but there clearly is more evidence that Kyle Rittenhouse killed two people than what others would or would not have done to him in a potential situation that did not play out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Approaching Walrus View Post


    wow americans are really good people these days, definitely not an entire nation gripped by mass psychosis

    URSULA VON DER LEYEN MUST MAINTAIN THE TRAVEL BAN UNTIL ORDER IS RESTORED IN THE UNITED STATES

    KEEP THEM OUT
    principally and ethically, defensive use of violence is entirely justified.

    cheering on it is icky, but the entire sequence of events justifies adding and endorsing a armed element to future protests, because the cops sure as fuck aren't going to do anything about it.
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    2. Bloodthirsty sea pirates who ravaged northern Europe beginning in the 9th century.

    Hagar's note: The first definition is much preferred; the second is used only by malcontents, the envious, and disgruntled owners of waterfront property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Approaching Walrus View Post
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    They were armed. One of them had a gun. They were likely going to beat him to death.

    Normal people don't drive 40 minutes to burn down buildings in a neighboring town.

    Normal people don't have their parents drive them 30 minutes to protect a fucking autozone with rifles.

    They're all animals and belong in cages. Or as otherwise known, just normal Americans these days.

    Keep the travel ban up Ursula.

    I thought that the first guy he murdered was unarmed? He did throw a plastic bag at him which is pretty scary when you are carrying an AR I suppose.

    Either way, the kid's lifelong dream of becoming a cop is off to a great start.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/u...ing-video.html

    First shooting
    While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.

    Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.
    Why is it so hard for you people to admit that everyone involved here is a bunch of violent bloodthirsty lunatics?
    The other gunfire was unrelated to the altercation between Rittenhouse and Rosenbaum. Occurred on the other side of the street; someone fires shots into the air.

    Per the criminal complaint, Rosenbaum was shot when he tried to grab Rittenhouse’s rifle by the barrel/foreend. This is per Mr Harris, an eyewitness who was interviewing Rittenhouse on video right before the shooting, and who Rittenhouse almost shot (shot at but missed).
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    wow americans are really good people these days, definitely not an entire nation gripped by mass psychosis

    URSULA VON DER LEYEN MUST MAINTAIN THE TRAVEL BAN UNTIL ORDER IS RESTORED IN THE UNITED STATES

    KEEP THEM OUT
    And deport all Americans back to their shithole so they don't spread their disease here!
    I'm not infected! I swear!!

    >flees to singapore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Approaching Walrus View Post
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    wow americans are really good people these days, definitely not an entire nation gripped by mass psychosis

    URSULA VON DER LEYEN MUST MAINTAIN THE TRAVEL BAN UNTIL ORDER IS RESTORED IN THE UNITED STATES

    KEEP THEM OUT
    And deport all Americans back to their shithole so they don't spread their disease here!
    I'm not infected! I swear!!

    >flees to singapore
    Yes but you’re an American mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Legionnaire View Post
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    wow americans are really good people these days, definitely not an entire nation gripped by mass psychosis

    URSULA VON DER LEYEN MUST MAINTAIN THE TRAVEL BAN UNTIL ORDER IS RESTORED IN THE UNITED STATES

    KEEP THEM OUT
    And deport all Americans back to their shithole so they don't spread their disease here!
    Be sure to take your trash back.

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    two people shot dead in portland tonight after a "pro trump" rally rolled into town.

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/30/u...imes&smtyp=cur

    PORTLAND, Ore. — A man was shot and killed Saturday as a large group of supporters of President Trump traveled in a caravan through downtown Portland, Ore., which has seen nightly protests for three consecutive months.

    The pro-Trump rally drew hundreds of trucks full of supporters into the city. At times, Trump supporters and counterprotesters clashed on the streets, with people shooting paintball guns from the beds of pickup trucks and protesters throwing objects back at them.

    A video that purports to be of the shooting, taken from the far side of the street, showed a small group of people in the road outside what appears to be a parking garage. Gunfire erupts, and a man collapses in the street.

    The man who was shot and killed was wearing a hat with the insignia of Patriot Prayer, a far-right group based in Portland that has clashed with protesters in the past.

    The Portland Police Bureau said that officers heard reports of gunfire shortly before 9 p.m. and found a victim with a gunshot wound to the chest. It was determined that the victim had died. They did not release any information about a possible gunman.

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    Let's get some based class reductionist perspective from filthy Trots in here instead of capitalist mouthpieces full of blue checkmarks like the New York Times

    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/202.../prot-a29.html

    In the largest single protest, tens of thousands gathered in Washington DC for the “Get Your Knee Off Our Necks” march, commemorating 57 years since the first “March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom,” led by Martin Luther King Jr. in 1963.

    The turnout was substantial, given the threat of the coronavirus pandemic as well as the atmosphere of violent intimidation whipped up by Trump even before a pro-Trump vigilante gunman opened fire on protesters in Kenosha, Wisconsin Tuesday night, killing two people and wounding a third.

    One group of about 50 people marched on foot from Wisconsin to Washington, encountering occasional hostility along the way in rural areas. One of this group was shot and lightly wounded in Bedford County, Pennsylvania by a local man using a rifle, in an incident that was live-streamed.

    The politics of the protest, however, were those of its Democratic Party organizers, particularly the Reverend Al Sharpton, who has long specialized in covering up the fundamental class issues and the responsibility of capitalism for poverty, police violence and racism, and promoting a racialist agenda aimed at dividing the working class.

    ...

    Despite the bankrupt politics of the speakers, the large multiracial and multiethnic crowd in attendance testified to the broad support within the population for equality and opposition to the fascistic politics being put forward by Trump and the financial oligarchy for which he speaks.

    In his acceptance speech Thursday night, Trump spoke for more than an hour without mentioning the specific events in Kenosha or acknowledging that a political supporter, acting on the basis of his political slogans, opened fire on protesters and murdered two of them.

    A direct line can be drawn between the fascistic screeds delivered by Trump over the last four years and repeated endlessly at the Republican National Convention this past week and the vigilante killings in Kenosha perpetrated by Kyle Rittenhouse.

    Rittenhouse is fast becoming a symbol for fascists. He has been elevated by Fox News personalities such as Tucker Carlson, with an average nightly viewership of roughly 4 million, and Ann Coulter, who boasts 2.2 million followers. On Wednesday Coulter replied to a follower, who said that he wanted Rittenhouse as his bodyguard, stating, “I want him as my president.”

    The night after the shooting, local Wisconsin radio personality Vicki McKenna, whose morning talk show is carried in the two largest cities, Madison and Milwaukee, asked her listeners, “Do you have enough ammo?” She continued, “Are you going to prepare by finding that old set of white sheets so that you can raise the flag of surrender? Or are you going to be ready to defend your property, your people, against the imminent violence being unleashed by people whose end game is total destruction of our way of life?”

    ...

    Protests have continued throughout the week in Kenosha despite the fact that a curfew remains in effect from 7 p.m. to 7 a.m. through Sunday, August 30. Daily emergency texts warning of “civil unrest” have been sent to cell phones throughout Kenosha County, ordering “citizens… to be off the streets for their safety.”

    The Kenosha murders are only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to right-wing violence against the protests that have erupted throughout America since the May 25 police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis.

    Critical data published in a recent article by the Huffington Post, which was collected by Alexander Reid Ross, a doctoral fellow at the Center for Analysis of the Radical Right, revealed that the bulk of the violence committed at protests throughout the summer has been carried out by elements associated with the far-right, as opposed to protesters. So far, there have been at least 497 instances of far-right actors and vigilantes confronting, assaulting and/or murdering protesters.

    ...

    Even the specific form of the events in Kenosha has extensive precedent. Ross documented over 20 instances of police encouraging the formation of militias to help “suppress lawlessness.”

    On July 30, Pinal County Sheriff Mark Lamb created a “civilian posse” to help with “widespread unrest” in the central Arizona county. Sioux Rapids Police Chief Tim Porter in South Dakota was suspended for two weeks earlier this summer after posting a Facebook message in which he likened Black Lives Matter protesters to “speed bumps,” and encouraged fascists to “HIT THE GAS AND HANG ON” as they committed vehicular manslaughter.


    ...

    The response of the Democratic presidential ticket to the violent attacks on protesters is a combination of identity politics and cowardice. Former Vice President Joe Biden said that Trump hoped to profit from the upheaval in Kenosha. “I think he views it as a political benefit,” he told MSNBC, saying Trump was “just pouring gasoline on the racial flames that are burning now.”

    He complained that Trump was attacking the Democrats although the Republicans are actually in power and should be held responsible. “The violence we’re witnessing is happening under Donald Trump,” Biden said, “Not me. It’s getting worse, and we know why.”

    Senator Kamala Harris said, “We must always defend peaceful protest and peaceful protesters,” but added that “we should not confuse them with those looting and committing acts of violence.”

    Neither Biden nor Harris pointed to Trump’s role as the moral author of the Kenosha murders or to the growing danger of ultra-right violence against anyone who publicly denounces the crimes of the Trump administration or the police.
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