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    Quote Originally Posted by Djan Seriy Anaplian View Post
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    So much for protect and serve
    No no. They still protect and serve.

    They protect private property, and serve property owners.
    Hasn’t this always been the polices function in civil societies. It’s the other ones where they ensure ideological purity that the worst abuses occur...
    Tbh they’re kind of ensuring ideological purity right now
    It’s more like racial purity, really. They don’t care too much what the young black kids think...

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    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
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    So much for protect and serve
    No no. They still protect and serve.

    They protect private property, and serve property owners.
    Hasn’t this always been the polices function in civil societies. It’s the other ones where they ensure ideological purity that the worst abuses occur...
    Tbh they’re kind of ensuring ideological purity right now
    It’s more like racial purity, really. They don’t care too much what the young black kids think...
    Mmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Crush View Post
    FBI agent drops gun while dancing, shoots person:
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/fbi-agent-...ry?id=55614488

    a real patriot, he deserves a promotion...
    They just revealed the agent's name : Chase Bishop.

    Even sounds like a douche.
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    GTA 6 STAR WANTED LEVEL just got real


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    It's a Gavin, I'm surprised it didn't break down as he nicked it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Crush View Post
    GTA 6 STAR WANTED LEVEL just got real

    Protect and swerve.
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    But islamism IS a product of class warfare. Rich white countries come into developing brown dictatorships, wreck the leadership, infrastructure and economy and then act all surprised that religious fanaticism is on the rise.
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    walrus isnt a bad poster.
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    Subtle.
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    hot take: the NRA are a russian funded agitprop organization and its governing body should be tried as traitors,

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenosisMk4 View Post
    hot take: the NRA are a russian funded agitprop organization and its governing body should be tried as traitors,
    I am sure it is a coincidence that the Treasury department ruled last week that non-profits (like the NRA) no longer have to report their donors, immediately after a Russian agent is charged for influencing politics through the NRA.

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    Do 501(c)(3)'s have to disclose all of their donors publicly?


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    WHAT A BOUT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Do 501(c)(3)'s have to disclose all of their donors publicly?
    503(c)(3)'s are specifically prohibited from political discourse.
    meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
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    Do 501(c)(3)'s have to disclose all of their donors publicly?
    503(c)(3)'s are specifically prohibited from political discourse.
    Not quiet, they cannot directly interfere with political elections, however they are allowed to lobb.

    On the other hand, public charities (but not private foundations) may conduct a limited amount of lobbying to influence legislation. Although the law states that "No substantial part..." of a public charity's activities can go to lobbying, charities may register for a 501(h) election allowing them to lawfully conduct lobbying activities as long as their financial expenditure does not exceed a specified amount.[42]
    A 501(h) election or Conable election is a procedure in United States tax law that allows a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization to participate in lobbying limited only by the financial expenditure on that lobbying, regardless of its overall extent. This allows organizations taking the 501(h) election to potentially perform a large amount of lobbying if it is done using volunteer labor or through inexpensive means. The 501(h) election is available to most types of 501(c)(3) organizations that are not churches or private foundations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Hustlin View Post
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    Do 501(c)(3)'s have to disclose all of their donors publicly?
    503(c)(3)'s are specifically prohibited from political discourse.
    Not quiet, they cannot directly interfere with political elections, however they are allowed to lobb.

    On the other hand, public charities (but not private foundations) may conduct a limited amount of lobbying to influence legislation. Although the law states that "No substantial part..." of a public charity's activities can go to lobbying, charities may register for a 501(h) election allowing them to lawfully conduct lobbying activities as long as their financial expenditure does not exceed a specified amount.[42]
    A 501(h) election or Conable election is a procedure in United States tax law that allows a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization to participate in lobbying limited only by the financial expenditure on that lobbying, regardless of its overall extent. This allows organizations taking the 501(h) election to potentially perform a large amount of lobbying if it is done using volunteer labor or through inexpensive means. The 501(h) election is available to most types of 501(c)(3) organizations that are not churches or private foundations
    Right. It's still not $30 million or so from a hostile foreign state.
    meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
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    Do 501(c)(3)'s have to disclose all of their donors publicly?
    503(c)(3)'s are specifically prohibited from political discourse.
    Understood, so I presume that eliminates them from having to disclose then?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
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    Do 501(c)(3)'s have to disclose all of their donors publicly?
    503(c)(3)'s are specifically prohibited from political discourse.
    Understood, so I presume that eliminates them from having to disclose then?
    I think it's because it's supposed to be your local round table or kids soccer team or whatever. It's a relatively narrow (yet casual) list of what is permissible for a 503(c). Religious is among them though, which is where the sticking point is, mostly, I think. I don't see many little league teams creating huge political controversies.
    meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
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    Do 501(c)(3)'s have to disclose all of their donors publicly?
    503(c)(3)'s are specifically prohibited from political discourse.
    Understood, so I presume that eliminates them from having to disclose then?
    I think it's because it's supposed to be your local round table or kids soccer team or whatever. It's a relatively narrow (yet casual) list of what is permissible for a 503(c). Religious is among them though, which is where the sticking point is, mostly, I think. I don't see many little league teams creating huge political controversies.
    Aye, except we all know these charities are not limited to such small-time stuff.

    Personally, I think all charities should have to disclose their donors and explicitly how and what they spend their money on.

    I'm quite in opposition to the Trump administration changes to 504's posted above.


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    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
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    Do 501(c)(3)'s have to disclose all of their donors publicly?
    503(c)(3)'s are specifically prohibited from political discourse.
    Understood, so I presume that eliminates them from having to disclose then?
    I think it's because it's supposed to be your local round table or kids soccer team or whatever.
    um no. A quick list of examples of 501(c)3's:

    United Way, The American Red Cross, Catholic Charities USA, The American Cancer Society, ASPCA/SPCA, The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, The National Endowment for the Arts, the NCAA, the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, The Boy & Girl Scouts.

    The bulk of charitable organizations in the US are 501(c)3's since the definition is the broadest amongst the various 501's "Religious, Educational, Charitable, Scientific, Literary, Testing for Public Safety, to Foster National or International Amateur Sports Competition, or Prevention of Cruelty to Children or Animals Organizations"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Hustlin View Post
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    Do 501(c)(3)'s have to disclose all of their donors publicly?
    503(c)(3)'s are specifically prohibited from political discourse.
    Understood, so I presume that eliminates them from having to disclose then?
    I think it's because it's supposed to be your local round table or kids soccer team or whatever.
    um no. A quick list of examples of 501(c)3's:

    United Way, The American Red Cross, Catholic Charities USA, The American Cancer Society, ASPCA/SPCA, The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, The National Endowment for the Arts, the NCAA, the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, The Boy & Girl Scouts.

    The bulk of charitable organizations in the US are 501(c)3's since the definition is the broadest amongst the various 501's "Religious, Educational, Charitable, Scientific, Literary, Testing for Public Safety, to Foster National or International Amateur Sports Competition, or Prevention of Cruelty to Children or Animals Organizations"
    ..and the clinton foundation.

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