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    Just play Elite.


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    Agreed. The game contains a similar level of anger about how things could be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Whats the story here, anyone know?
    CCP's investors need CCP to be more than Eve. They'll use the Eve IP and recurring revenues to try to produce something with more widespread appeal.
    This really does sum it all up. EVE does not have long-term growth potential; CCP needs to continue to develop other games to satisfy their investors and ensure the continued success of the company.

    What those game(s) may be, we'll see.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmin View Post
    Over this past holiday I've been playing CCPs Danger Game included with the EvE Collector's Edition and it's always taken precedence in my guests' preferences over Monopoly, Risk and Cards against Humanity. It is simply that much fun.
    So much this. I took it to the parents' house one year when I was visiting for the holidays, and they went and bought their own copy of the Danger Game off of eBay after I left. It's Monopoly without the excessive bean counting (ironically, for CCP, the anti-spreadsheet game in a sense) and you get to be much more malicious while also directing that malice. People like PvP; who knew?

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    The Danger Game didnt seem THAT much fun to me, it takes aaaaages and is pretty lacking in skill
    It definitely has a significant RNG element. Though less so than Monopoly, since your actions can be directed to a degree and have more immediate consequences. The time complaint is valid though, especially for a 4 player game. Since you generally harm other players by pushing them back from the win condition, a vicious game can take a while before someone finally accumulates enough points to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verite Rendition View Post
    What those game(s) may be, we'll see.
    Abortions, that's what.

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    Maybe the investors should have read up on the company before putting their money in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmychrist View Post
    Maybe the investors should have read up on the company before putting their money in?
    Investors are idiots and invest in idiotic things.

    On paper CCP are pretty attractive. They just have a management ethos unfit for the modern world of technology. If you look at the figures for CCP they have a strong IP as well as a fairly strong traditional asset sheet, they have recurring revenues, deferred revenues in the form of plex and I'd imagine a fairly low churn of users. They're a company with a pretty great leveraging potential, they just fail so spectacularly when it comes to execution.

    They need a specialist investor to step in and treat them like a child, I imagine their current crop are very hands off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimmychrist View Post
    Maybe the investors should have read up on the company before putting their money in?
    Investors are idiots and invest in idiotic things.
    Aren't you invested in a start-up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimmychrist View Post
    Maybe the investors should have read up on the company before putting their money in?
    Investors are idiots and invest in idiotic things.
    Aren't you invested in a start-up?
    Did you just assume his economic ideology?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimmychrist View Post
    Maybe the investors should have read up on the company before putting their money in?
    Investors are idiots and invest in idiotic things.
    Aren't you invested in a start-up?
    I work for a bootstrapped startup which works with lots of other startups, quite a lot of which are VC backed.

    There's a lot of really shitty zombie companies which exist simply so VC funds don't have to crystallise their losses before market consolidation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Jiensai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    I saw a few reports that CCP is hiring for development of a new MMO?

    Whats the story here, anyone know?
    Extrapolating from history:

    - Announcement on 2018 fanfest
    - Aditional studio in 2019
    - development until 2020
    - canceled in 2021
    but can they top revolutionary hair physics

    do they still have the White Wolf eye-pee?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparq View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Jiensai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    I saw a few reports that CCP is hiring for development of a new MMO?

    Whats the story here, anyone know?
    Extrapolating from history:

    - Announcement on 2018 fanfest
    - Aditional studio in 2019
    - development until 2020
    - canceled in 2021
    but can they top revolutionary hair physics

    do they still have the White Wolf eye-pee?
    nope

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post

    There's a lot of really shitty zombie companies which exist simply so VC funds don't have to crystallise their losses before market consolidation.
    An here I thought I spoke english quite well. At least I understand all the words..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Jiensai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post

    There's a lot of really shitty zombie companies which exist simply so VC funds don't have to crystallise their losses before market consolidation.
    An here I thought I spoke english quite well. At least I understand all the words..
    Investors pump shit companies full of money for several years so they don't have to admit they made a mistake. Then when the top competitor starts to buy up the competition they cross their fingers that they'll buy out the shitty company as well and recoup some of their losses.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Spank View Post
    Better known as incompetent business practices.
    The main export of CCP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Spank View Post
    Better known as incompetent business practices.
    It's the basis of modern capitalism, partly because low interest rates have flooded the markets with cheap cash. Money is so cheap you can keep a company on life support with minimal revenues for ages, whether it has a future or not. All that matters for a VC is sticking around for an exit and having good enough PR that your fund keeps getting pumped with capital.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    An acquaintance of mine founded a startup plainly based on sending newsletters out to customers via WhatsApp based on customers signing up for them. He sold it off to a publisher within 12 months. He called it a "successful exit." It even sold well due to some customers being big German TV stations.

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