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    [PVP] Astarte

    Eagerly awaiting blaster/active armor tanking buff, but this ship still has a nice niche roll in shield logi fleets/bc gangs as a higher damage (but less versatile) alternative to the hurricane.


    [Astarte, passive shield]
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II
    Tracking Enhancer II
    Damage Control II

    10MN MicroWarpdrive I
    Warp Scrambler II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Invulnerability Field II

    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

    Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
    Medium Core Defence Field Extender I


    Hammerhead II x5


    -1035/1167 dps w/lvl 5s and no imps, significantly higher with a cheap 5 percent medium blaster damage implant.
    -55k ehp (more if you switch out the scram for another invuln, in fact 2 overloaded invulns gives you 71.5k ehp, at the cost of exacerbating the cap issues this ship already has)
    -1217/1726 m/s
    -2.6+12 range with navy antimatter
    -6.5+15 w/null
    -not actually very expensive

    Can also use this with active armor setups if one wishes to solo, though with the prevalence of neuts and ecm these days I generally don't. Please do post setups for them though and I'd love to be proven wrong.

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    doesn't really work in 'real' terms, the times i used a shield astarte in small shield fleets it was instant and obvious primary even more so in more 'nano' BC gangs (i.e hurricanes instead of drakes). as it'd always be the closest, slowes, highest dps and most expensive thing there. plus you'll find yourself instantly capped out and useless anyway. doesn't really offer enough over the gank brutix for it's price to be worth it imo.

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    I've tried these kind of fits and they always DIAF because I can never resist the temptation to go balls deep instead of sitting at range with Null.

    It's funny melting drakes and stuff though.

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    What you are trying to do (when in gang), switch your fit to rails. Sit at Antimatter optimal, and you'll be top dmg alot of the time. You also don't need to carry a scrambler, put some more tank, and you'll also be very well tanked. Let someone else in a vaga point.
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    these fucking ships.... how do they work? decided to get into active armour tanking more (bored of shield nano faggotry)... have an astarte lying about, want to use it. but fuck, it's just pretty bad I have:
    [Astarte, armour]
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Damage Control II
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
    Warp Scrambler II
    Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
    Stasis Webifier II

    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

    Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I


    Hammerhead II x5
    Tank/dps 'numbers' are ok, but if you meet more than 1 medium neut you're fucked. It could take down a dual neut 'cane before it killed it, great. But that's only 1v1 and being able to take a t1 BC with a t2 BC is nothing to write home about. But if you come up against any 2 ships with neuts then >_< I'm just gonna ignore it being slow as shit too, because 'armour'. Anyone have any joy with the albino brutix?

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    I've had a little bit of luck with a single rep and neutrons

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    *cryptic*

    .....do tell?

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    Or just passive, with a cap injector for neut defence. It rips through loller active tanks like butter, you can easily get through 2-4 before thye get you down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivqua View Post
    Or just passive, with a cap injector for neut defence. It rips through loller active tanks like butter, you can easily get through 2-4 before thye get you down.
    2-4 what, stabbers?

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    i looked at single rep + neutrons, basically using "hahaha i tear your face off" to make up for any shortfall in dps, in fact single MAR/neutrons is how my astarte is fit atm. but it seemed to me it might need slaves or a booster alt (neither of which are things i bother with), the buffer aint all that much. i came up with:

    [Astarte, MAR neutrons]
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Damage Control II
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Armor Explosive Hardener II
    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
    Warp Scrambler II
    Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
    Stasis Webifier II

    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

    Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I


    Hammerhead II x5
    don't see how else you could do it, but would be interested to see your version prom if it's different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiodome View Post
    Anyone have any joy with the albino brutix?
    I'm only responding b/c last I heard you were in a WH corp...

    I use a slight variation:

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    [Astarte, New Setup 1]
    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Armor Explosive Hardener II
    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Damage Control II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
    Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
    Stasis Webifier II
    Warp Scrambler II

    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I


    Hammerhead II x5


    Used it some for low tier WH solo/2-3 man gang stuff, neuts can fuck it over pretty well as you've said but it can tank kinetic damage well from the ever present drakes/tengus that seem to forget that missiles come in all damage types. Mostly it gets used if I have some foreknowledge of what I'll be fighting (there is a small gang of tengus/drakes in the C1 next door sort of deal), I would rather roam in other ships.

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    same lows except i change an eanm for active em, 2x nanobotl, sometimes removing the mfs for eanm, and the rep for faction (sometimes)
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    Does it deserve a fly ? :

    [Astarte, Myrm]
    Damage Control II
    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
    Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
    Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
    Warp Scrambler II

    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Null M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Null M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Null M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Null M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Null M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Null M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Null M

    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
    Medium Nanobot Accelerator I


    Hammerhead II x5

    575 / 637 OH DPS with drones [Null] @ 4.7km + 9.4km
    776 Tank - 992 OH

    Also it need a +3% pwgd plant.
    Last edited by Archetype 66; December 1 2011 at 11:28:52 AM.

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    Goddamn, these new T2 siege links can make ANYTHING an active shield tank.

    Last edited by CastleBravo; December 1 2011 at 12:41:12 PM.

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    Edit: Nm, I guess your Crystals char has said implants rather than them being listed in the implants section.
    Still, 2 Oracles are going to rip you a new one.

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    Arty cane will alpha through your shields, two or three will put you straight down if timed well. Or just 2 tornados/pests.

    If you want to put that much into a ship then pimp the mwd for longer cap/smaller sig and the booster for better heating and cycle time.


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    The shield HP isn't much weaker than it would be on a cyclone with a boost amp instead of an invuln, and it would take more than three 'canes to alpha all the way through the shields. I would be more afraid of three shield gank 'canes coming at me with more dps I can tank even without all the neuting they would be putting out.

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    So I'm trying to find a baller fit to use alongside my Legion links, but with the lows as:

    DC II
    IN EANM
    C-Type Explo MEmbrane
    2x Corelum C-Type MAR's
    MagStab

    I get the exact same tank as a similarly fit Deimos.

    The Astarte:

    Has enough mids for MWD, Scram, Web, Injector

    but is slower, fatter, and more expensive than Deimos with the exact same lows.

    Any baller tank fits?

    (Rigs on the Asstardy and Deimos are T1 nanobot and T1 aux nano.)

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    Wait for the RAH boost in the next patch:

    [Astarte, DualMAR]
    Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Damage Control II
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Reactive Armor Hardener
    Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer

    Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
    Warp Scrambler II
    Stasis Webifier II
    Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I

    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
    Medium Nanobot Accelerator I


    Valkyrie II x5

    Pimp as appropriate. Or drop the magstab for another tanking mod, but there's really not much you can do here. Upgrade web + scram to catch things,for example.
    I tried to be cool and all I got was a lousy warning about my sig being too big.

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    [Astarte, XLASB Astarte]
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Co-Processor II
    Internal Force Field Array I
    Overdrive Injector System II

    Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
    X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

    Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
    Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I


    Hammerhead II x5

    Or that.
    I tried to be cool and all I got was a lousy warning about my sig being too big.

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