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    Quote Originally Posted by rufuske View Post
    So edgy.
    Not really. I just see how we treat other humans, animals and the planet.
    We are a cancer to the world.

    If we at least showed that we were able to change, even just a bit, then I would have had a hope for us.
    But as it stands, I dont see anything that gives me any hope for the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
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    One might argue that the consequence of life is always its own extinction, especially when it comes to sentient life.
    Yepp. That would be one answer to the Fermi Paradox.
    Scariest one. I'd rather believe in reapers, being first or being too far from each other.
    The last one is what I think is the most likely scenario by all we know up until now about physics. That in combination with a very tiny time frame in which civilizations unintentionally broadcast their existence into space. E.g. mankind started "blasting" radios waves (and later TV) in the early 1930. That was our main means of transferring information. Up until the early 2000s or so, I guess. At that time we began moving information transfer to the internet = back to wires. Even radio and TV. So let's be generous and make that epoch 1920-2020. That means only for a century - a blink of an eye in the galactic timescale - we were easily detectable from elsewhere.
    If by easily detectable you mean "not really above the background noise and would require an instrument way past anything we can currently think of to detect from few light years away" then yes, you are right.
    That's not what I meant, although that is of course obviously also true. With "easily detectable" I meant "signals with wave patterns and/or on a frequency not produced by a natural source as far as we know". I.e. something like the famous Wow! signal. Which stood out both because of its strength (your point) and its frequency.

    Another thing I recently stumbled upon is a visualization of the distance those earliest radio signals from earth have traveled so far. Which isn't that far (spoilered for larger image):
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    Source: https://www.planetary.org/articles/3390

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
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    One might argue that the consequence of life is always its own extinction, especially when it comes to sentient life.
    Yepp. That would be one answer to the Fermi Paradox.
    Scariest one. I'd rather believe in reapers, being first or being too far from each other.
    The last one is what I think is the most likely scenario by all we know up until now about physics. That in combination with a very tiny time frame in which civilizations unintentionally broadcast their existence into space. E.g. mankind started "blasting" radios waves (and later TV) in the early 1930. That was our main means of transferring information. Up until the early 2000s or so, I guess. At that time we began moving information transfer to the internet = back to wires. Even radio and TV. So let's be generous and make that epoch 1920-2020. That means only for a century - a blink of an eye in the galactic timescale - we were easily detectable from elsewhere.
    If by easily detectable you mean "not really above the background noise and would require an instrument way past anything we can currently think of to detect from few light years away" then yes, you are right.
    That's not what I meant, although that is of course obviously also true. With "easily detectable" I meant "signals with wave patterns and/or on a frequency not produced by a natural source as far as we know". I.e. something like the famous Wow! signal. Which stood out both because of its strength (your point) and its frequency.

    Another thing I recently stumbled upon is a visualization of the distance those earliest radio signals from earth have traveled so far. Which isn't that far (spoilered for larger image):
      Spoiler:



    Source: https://www.planetary.org/articles/3390
    And they aren't distinguishable from the background noise even with theoretically perfect detectors from 20LY away, to be very generous.

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    Stay safe, USbros

    Hurricane Ida barrels down on Louisiana amid warnings of ‘life-altering storm’

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ast-us-weather
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lief Siddhe View Post
    Stay safe, USbros

    Hurricane Ida barrels down on Louisiana amid warnings of ‘life-altering storm’

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ast-us-weather
    The revamp of the surge protection etc has worked. Storm worse than Katrina at <5% of the trouble, deaths, economic cost etc.

    Thanks in big part to Dutch engineers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacul View Post
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    Stay safe, USbros

    Hurricane Ida barrels down on Louisiana amid warnings of ‘life-altering storm’

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ast-us-weather
    The revamp of the surge protection etc has worked. Storm worse than Katrina at <5% of the trouble, deaths, economic cost etc.

    Thanks in big part to Dutch engineers.
    Ida was a Cat 4, second only to Katrina.
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    Good to hear!

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    Small victory for the planet: Algeria stops using leaded fuel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacul View Post
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    Stay safe, USbros

    Hurricane Ida barrels down on Louisiana amid warnings of ‘life-altering storm’

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ast-us-weather
    The revamp of the surge protection etc has worked. Storm worse than Katrina at <5% of the trouble, deaths, economic cost etc.

    Thanks in big part to Dutch engineers.
    Wait a minute - so you're saying science actually does work? Ain't that heresy in those southern states?

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    here is a short primer on the terms and ideas being discussed surrounding collapse, since it's basically going to go mainstream.

    i figure, at least some of you lot is going to get a bit of use out of this when terms like ecofascism comes up.
    Viking, n.:
    1. Daring Scandinavian seafarers, explorers, adventurers, entrepreneurs world-famous for their aggressive, nautical import business, highly leveraged takeovers and blue eyes.
    2. Bloodthirsty sea pirates who ravaged northern Europe beginning in the 9th century.

    Hagar's note: The first definition is much preferred; the second is used only by malcontents, the envious, and disgruntled owners of waterfront property.

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    Some of these are really strange: Cottage-core? That's really a thing?

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    It's somebodies blog.

    The funniest part of that was:

    I hope the result won't resemble too closely the rigid taxonomies of nineteenth century anthropologists.
    Then proceeds to sounds like an 19th century anthropologist.
    meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
    Some of these are really strange: Cottage-core? That's really a thing?
    Cottagecore is a fashion aesthetic popularised by teenagers and young adults celebrating an idealised rural life. It was developed throughout the 2010s and was first named cottagecore on Tumblr in 2018.
    Not even remotely surprised it came from tumblr

    I guess the most important part about our civilization collapsing is making sure it does so in a fashionable manner
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    I've had several friends move out of town in the last 2 years (covid lockdowns, earthquakes and insane neighbours) into the countryside.

    They all have quite an idyllic idea of what life in a village some 100km from a city is. I warned them it ain't all sunshine and roses and now they're finding out

    It's still not a bad move imho

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    like you have actual cities in balkans


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    I'm not even mad

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    adjusting to city life is easy, adjusting to rural living seems to take people quite a bit longer. I've met far too many people that would go on a nice hike in the rural area i used to live, appreciating it immediately and being amazed with how accessible the outdoors was, then would reach a stream and start drinking from it without any thoughts at all.

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    Happily chugs a mouthful of fertilizer runoff, algae, tannins, and who knows what else.

    Visibly shudders when you offer them the local tap water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lief Siddhe View Post
    I've had several friends move out of town in the last 2 years (covid lockdowns, earthquakes and insane neighbours) into the countryside.

    They all have quite an idyllic idea of what life in a village some 100km from a city is. I warned them it ain't all sunshine and roses and now they're finding out

    It's still not a bad move imho
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