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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Yep, it’s bleak, says expert who tested 1970s end-of-the-world prediction
    A controversial MIT study from 1972 forecast the collapse of civilization – and Gaya Herrington is here to deliver the bad news
    Don't worry I'm sure some start ups with new app ideas will be along to save us any minute now.
    2040 sounds wildly optimistic considering the existent political instability and how the pressure is really starting to pile on now.
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    2. Bloodthirsty sea pirates who ravaged northern Europe beginning in the 9th century.

    Hagar's note: The first definition is much preferred; the second is used only by malcontents, the envious, and disgruntled owners of waterfront property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paradox View Post
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    This was painful to read
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/20/b...an-wilson.html

    We are entering era when you can die in a heatwave in the north of Canada if you don't have AC and stay indoors. And of course some bright bulb writes a book saying owning an AC makes you guilty for global warming and you need to repent from you sinful behavior.
    Canada uses 3 times the energy per capita as China, or the UK. More AC isn't going to save them.

    Has the North American Continent tried being a bit less power greedy? Top two by a fucking mile. At least Saudi Arabia has legitimate "we need AC" power usage conditions and Canadians still use a third more than them.


    Its time to stop
    Why do you think energy usage in Canada is so high?
    Coal tar sand industry, the natural gas industry, a total lack of political will or pressure to meet environmental targets, a culture of resource waste + energy wastage and environmental dumping, transport costs, and so on. Its no excuse in 2021. North America is boiling the planet

    Even russia, with similar distance and climate issues and a gas industry does twice as good as canada in terms of pollution. Russia ffs.

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    Just imagine how bad its gonna get when the canadian and russian permafrost melts and all those mass burial sites start to rot again too.

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    Guns make the news, science doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liare View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Yep, it’s bleak, says expert who tested 1970s end-of-the-world prediction
    A controversial MIT study from 1972 forecast the collapse of civilization – and Gaya Herrington is here to deliver the bad news
    Don't worry I'm sure some start ups with new app ideas will be along to save us any minute now.
    2040 sounds wildly optimistic considering the existent political instability and how the pressure is really starting to pile on now.
    At least sustainability has been commoditised before it even really exists in the large scale and is forecast for excellent growth with strong margins!
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    So, 10 more years of relative normality, then 10 years of societal collapse.

    Ill take it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckslayer View Post
    So, 10 more years of relative normality, then 10 years of societal collapse.

    Ill take it!
    the collapse has already begun, it just haven't arrived to where you are yet.

    i don't think we're getting 10 years of normality, things have noticeably accelerated just the 2 years and crop yields are going to be fucking dire this year.



    the Jetstream being increasingly fucked is throwing some wild weather-patterns out there.
    Last edited by Liare; July 26 2021 at 01:34:34 PM.
    Viking, n.:
    1. Daring Scandinavian seafarers, explorers, adventurers, entrepreneurs world-famous for their aggressive, nautical import business, highly leveraged takeovers and blue eyes.
    2. Bloodthirsty sea pirates who ravaged northern Europe beginning in the 9th century.

    Hagar's note: The first definition is much preferred; the second is used only by malcontents, the envious, and disgruntled owners of waterfront property.

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    Whats the big deal Venice has had water streets for literally decades and seems ok

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    Haven't original "Limits of Growth" and Club of Rome predictions been shown to be hilariously wrong? I.e. they were expecting end of the world in '90es? Climate change wasn't even really a thing in discussion back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzajic View Post
    Haven't original "Limits of Growth" and Club of Rome predictions been shown to be hilariously wrong? I.e. they were expecting end of the world in '90es? Climate change wasn't even really a thing in discussion back then.
    I think you are mistaking point of no return with the "end of the world", also implying a quarter of the industrial volume didn't get decimated in the 90s.





    exactly 20 years ago:
    https://www.cc.com/video/04am55/the-...rt-u-s-vs-them
    Last edited by RazoR; July 26 2021 at 08:05:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzajic View Post
    Haven't original "Limits of Growth" and Club of Rome predictions been shown to be hilariously wrong? I.e. they were expecting end of the world in '90es? Climate change wasn't even really a thing in discussion back then.
    That is how i also remember it at least the focus in my uni days was 'limits of growth' concerning population growth. So famine, logistics for food, food production, urban management and most importantly fuel (lack there of).
    Club of Rome was presented to us PoliSci students as a wake up call but indeed wrong on about every vital point. That it addressed climate change in and of itself is a surprise to me and in around 2000 not even in our literature.
    Schopenhauer:

    All truth passes through three stages.
    First, it is ridiculed.
    Second, it is violently opposed.
    Third, it is accepted as being self-evident..

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    Limits of growth is only part of the story. In the same way malthus never saw agricultural output increasing in the way it has there are always new developments which need to be factored in.

    Fossil fuels have allowed us to break various developmental boundaries which previously existed, they just kicked the catastrophe down the road in the form of total ecosystem breakdown for future generations to deal with.
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzajic View Post
    Haven't original "Limits of Growth" and Club of Rome predictions been shown to be hilariously wrong? I.e. they were expecting end of the world in '90es? Climate change wasn't even really a thing in discussion back then.
    Seeing as i was taught Global Warming in Year 7 Geography in 1997, it mos def was a thing, and even on the national curriculum in the 90's

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    Yeah we learned about it in middle school, and my education then was abysmal. It'd be known for a long time regardless of all the corporate and government messaging saying they've just be alerted and are trying to fix it.

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    The first worries about global warming started in the 19th century. Everyone claiming we couldn't have seen this coming for a very long time now is hilariously wrong.

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    https://xkcd.com/1732/ The good old XKCD timeline for the "but there have been fluctuations previously" on temperature

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    Viking, n.:
    1. Daring Scandinavian seafarers, explorers, adventurers, entrepreneurs world-famous for their aggressive, nautical import business, highly leveraged takeovers and blue eyes.
    2. Bloodthirsty sea pirates who ravaged northern Europe beginning in the 9th century.

    Hagar's note: The first definition is much preferred; the second is used only by malcontents, the envious, and disgruntled owners of waterfront property.

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    this isn't a Tory problem.

    it's fucking everywhere.
    Viking, n.:
    1. Daring Scandinavian seafarers, explorers, adventurers, entrepreneurs world-famous for their aggressive, nautical import business, highly leveraged takeovers and blue eyes.
    2. Bloodthirsty sea pirates who ravaged northern Europe beginning in the 9th century.

    Hagar's note: The first definition is much preferred; the second is used only by malcontents, the envious, and disgruntled owners of waterfront property.

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    Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity'


    Lol oil and gas industry go brrrrrrrrrrr
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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