[TMA] Running

[Rudolf Miller]

Need advice

So I've been working out, harder and harder to help get my weight down. I've lost 65 pounds and 9 months, so I really can't complain about my progress. However, in the past 2 month's I've taken up running to keep my calorie count burn number high for the time invested. I've made great strides. Went from a 12 minute mile (and having to stop) to being able to somewhat comfortably do 3 miles in 30 minutes, and topping out at 3.5 miles in 30 minutes and 6 miles in an hour non stop.

All has been well, until I started getting pain specifically in my right achilles tendon. I changed my shoes because I thought perhaps I had worn out my shoes. Got these.

http://www.amazon.com/Mizuno-Mens-Wa.../dp/B005FWDU8C


It helped for a while, but I can't seem to shake the soreness that inhabits my right achilles. Is there something I'm doing wrong? I've tried stretching it, not stretching it, heating it, cooling it, no real effect.

Halp?

[DocBlood]

Need advice

So I've been working out, harder and harder to help get my weight down. I've lost 65 pounds and 9 months, so I really can't complain about my progress. However, in the past 2 month's I've taken up running to keep my calorie count burn number high for the time invested. I've made great strides. Went from a 12 minute mile (and having to stop) to being able to somewhat comfortably do 3 miles in 30 minutes, and topping out at 3.5 miles in 30 minutes and 6 miles in an hour non stop.

All has been well, until I started getting pain specifically in my right achilles tendon. I changed my shoes because I thought perhaps I had worn out my shoes. Got these.



It helped for a while, but I can't seem to shake the soreness that inhabits my right achilles. Is there something I'm doing wrong? I've tried stretching it, not stretching it, heating it, cooling it, no real effect.

Halp?

Tried taking a few days off (or going slower/shorter on your runs) then easing back into your routine over a couple of days? It's entirely possible it just got overused and hasn't had time to heal up all the way. I've had the same thing happen to me when returning to running after a long break.

[Aeolos]

Righto, running plans are pretty much off for the summer. Got one of my hamstring tendons irritated, it's not affecting my cycling or swimming, but running is pretty much limited to 1.5km, after which the pain sets in. PT gave me some strengthening exercises for the knee, and did some friction massage on the tendon (the bastard).

Hopefully back to running in a month or so. Sigh, was just about to start enjoying this.

[Shiodome]

finished my first marathon last week, totally couldn't cope with the hot weather. edinburgh had been it's usual mild/cold/wet self for the 9 months since i started running, then the week of the marathon glorious sunshine and heat without any cloud cover. with no possible way of being used to this it murdered me... some kid gave me a glass of water about mile 22 and i would happily have given him my soul in thanks (there were regular water stations, but one longish stretch without going through a country park. probably something to do with litter.).

my muscles have all recovered now after a weeks rest, but my knees still hurt. will give it a few more days and if no progress go get them checked. my time was terribru (fuck you sun!) but i gave up smoking in october and couldn't run for 10 minutes, now i've done 26.2 miles. whilst dissapointed enough with my time that i'm already planning to do it again (lol), am still pleased with how far i've come ^^.

[Chrien]

brofist... just the idea of running that far makes me feel exhausted! Doing my 6km route kills me kytgw!

[Aeolos]

Righto, running plans are pretty much off for the summer. Got one of my hamstring tendons irritated, it's not affecting my cycling or swimming, but running is pretty much limited to 1.5km, after which the pain sets in. PT gave me some strengthening exercises for the knee, and did some friction massage on the tendon (the bastard).

Hopefully back to running in a month or so. Sigh, was just about to start enjoying this.

Time to revive this! Tendon injury has finally subsided, and running is back on. Planning on doing 4-5 sprint triathlons and one 1/4th or Olympic distance next season, so I really need to up my game when it comes to running. This means that this winter will consist of 2x swimming and 3x running weekly, and if I can find time cycle.

Mostly doing intervals now and building up to "long runs" (lol) of about 5-6km, and running a 10k race in March. In the meanwhile, I'm going to try and find some trail runs in the weekends, and get some proper race experience.

I wonder how many people from this thread are still running!

[The Crushah]

Need advice

So I've been working out, harder and harder to help get my weight down. I've lost 65 pounds and 9 months, so I really can't complain about my progress. However, in the past 2 month's I've taken up running to keep my calorie count burn number high for the time invested. I've made great strides. Went from a 12 minute mile (and having to stop) to being able to somewhat comfortably do 3 miles in 30 minutes, and topping out at 3.5 miles in 30 minutes and 6 miles in an hour non stop.

All has been well, until I started getting pain specifically in my right achilles tendon. I changed my shoes because I thought perhaps I had worn out my shoes. Got these.

http://www.amazon.com/Mizuno-Mens-Wa.../dp/B005FWDU8C


It helped for a while, but I can't seem to shake the soreness that inhabits my right achilles. Is there something I'm doing wrong? I've tried stretching it, not stretching it, heating it, cooling it, no real effect.

Halp?

Achiellies injuries are the ones that give me the willies. I developed heel pain where my achilles attaches after switching to VFF's last year. Turned out to be a bone spur and I needed some heel lift so I got NB minimus which are awesome shoes. Usually for things like achilles/heel and arch pain you need to give them some rest. Try to take a week to 10 days off and keep using NSAIDS/ICE on it when you can. Then try easing back into your routine to see how it feels.

Oh and congrats on the weight loss!

[Shiodome]

do you have a running store near you? there's a shop in edinburgh that i go to when i need new trainers, before trying anything on they put me on a treadmill and record me running, then put my feet in some thing that uses LAZERS to make a 3D image of my feet (which is pretty fucking cool for a shop imo). they've told me all kinds of interesting stuff about my feet, but basically i exhibit overpronation and slightly more in one foot than the other... so they found some trainers with a sort of clasp (hard to describe) that's part of the heel and some inserts plus showed me a different way of tying my laces to hold the heel more firmly; they're perfect, never had any problems. i expect i'm paying a slight premium, but they're certainly not pushing the most expensive stuff (the shoes they ended up recommending were right in the lowest price bracket) so i guess i trust them.

most of the people i go running with just buy their shoes online without trying them on, and i hear of all kinds of aches and pains from them that i've never experience. can't help wondering if it's because of the shoes.

[Mrenda]

Started Couch 2 5k last week, did the first week. Stopped last Friday because I was in pain. I'm thinking it's shin splints in my left leg. What do I do now? Get it checked out by a doctor to make sure it's nothing terrible, but is it just a case of ice it often and stretch often?

[Foebk]

Could you be more specific about the pain?
I'm no doctor but shin splints after just one week seems a bit odd furthermore since couch 2 5K is designed to avoid putting to much stress on your body at once by making you slowly progress toward a full jog (may depend on your weight and other things).
Getting it checked by a doctor you run the risk of runnning into a fearfull doctor who know nothing about sports and don't want to take any risk and will tell you to just stop / never run again.
You should always stretch and drink plenty of water even if it's really shin spints it won't really help, as for ice I tend to use it often on many aches but from what I remember from when I had a serious case of shin splints (tried to run trough it for a few months befor having to face that it wasn't going away) ice wasn't doing any good and may even have been painfull.
When experiencing aches that won't go away while running most of the times the answer come from good shoes, most of the cases I know of though it occurs later like after a few month of running or if you keep old running shoes for too long...
Depending on where you live try and find out if there is a good (I insist on the good part) sport store around with competent staff (if you don't know anyone who can provide you this kind of information a physical therapist may know, they tend to work with athletle on a regular basis among other things), I know it felt great to come into a store where they immediatly understood what kind of pain I was going trough (because they had been there themselves) and by looking at my old shoes could tell me why.

P.S. Shiodome account just above is another account of why a good store can mean so much when it comes to running shoes and getting those you really need.

[Cedori]

Started Couch 2 5k last week, did the first week. Stopped last Friday because I was in pain. I'm thinking it's shin splints in my left leg. What do I do now? Get it checked out by a doctor to make sure it's nothing terrible, but is it just a case of ice it often and stretch often?

My hunch is not stretching enough, and your running form. Personally, that was what it was for me.

Once I started doing more stretches, especially stretches for shins (they exist!) the problem went away almost instantly.

If you're following the good form running videos I linked in the other thread (and you said you were), it would even more support not stretching properly.
Running with the proper form uses muscles we (thanks to our shoes) haven't really developed much. Included in those muscles is the ones on the front of the shin. I do two simple stretches, and that took care of it for me.

Description here:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/80...tch-out-shins/

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[Rudolf Miller]

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take his advice.

[Mrenda]

Well, I'm going to the doctor on Tuesday (earliest they're open) as I've had this pain now for over a week.

[Mythago]

Anyone have some recommendations for trail running shoes? Budget is about £75. Probably to cover most terrains, including a little bit of road if necessary. The Brooks Cascadia 7/8 look good, I've used Brooks road running shoes before and found them very comfortable. Some of the Salomon shoes also look good.

[Rudolf Miller]

Does anyone subscribe to the barefoot running technique? Any tips for someone considering it?

[Cedori]

Does anyone subscribe to the barefoot running technique? Any tips for someone considering it?

I do, though I don't actually run barefoot, I use ultra-minimalist shoes instead, so for me it's more about running with the proper form, which barefoot and ultra-minimalist kind of forces you into.

http://www.goodformrunning.com/

That's the proper form, running barefoot, or in shoes.
You should work up to both the proper form, and barefoot, probably as two steps.
I would focus on form until it's habit (2-5 weeks depending on how often you run, and how diligent you are at paying attention to form)
Then start running barefoot, but only run short runs at first, and only every other run, slowly working up over 2-5 weeks. (e.g. start with 1/4 mile or 1/2 mile off road runs, and alternate them with full runs still in shoes).

It's this last step I never bothered with, the purpose is to toughen your soles up, and I prefer a pair of Vibram Five-Fingers, or Merrell Ultra-minimalists instead.

[Foebk]

Just ran my first race this afternoon, it was fun I will do it again sometimes. Ran 10k in under 50min, I had hoped I could do a bit better (I know I can't do under 45 yet) but between getting stuck in the crowd and those pesky hills (I'm used to running on flat land) I'm happy with myself.

[Aeolos]

Wheeeee, first 10k race yesterday. Virtually no preparation (a 7.5k and a 5k run the week before) because work on the new house has claimed all my free hours and energy. Had paid for the race in advance already, so decided to treat it like a training run. First 8k went in 5:20/km, picked up speed in the last 2k and finished in 52:33 feeling great. Now nursing a sore achilles tendon, might have to watch that one...

Next goal: sub-50, should be easily doable with some proper training, then start working towards 45min.

[Mrenda]

I did the first day of Couch to 5k again today. My knee has felt ok for the past few weeks but with starting work and shitty weather I just haven't been inclined to get out. We've had nice weather the past two days and I feel more energised so I went out and did it again. I covered 70 metres less than even my worse distance the last time but I felt really good after the run. There was one spot I felt a little off, but literally no spot I had to push myself through.

Hopefully my knee has built itself up better since I fecked it up and I can keep the running up this time. And hopefully the weather stays decent (it won't.)

[Aeolos]

I did the first day of Couch to 5k again today. My knee has felt ok for the past few weeks but with starting work and shitty weather I just haven't been inclined to get out. We've had nice weather the past two days and I feel more energised so I went out and did it again. I covered 70 metres less than even my worse distance the last time but I felt really good after the run. There was one spot I felt a little off, but literally no spot I had to push myself through.

Hopefully my knee has built itself up better since I fecked it up and I can keep the running up this time. And hopefully the weather stays decent (it won't.)

Nice going! Be sure to take it real easy and run slower than you think you should. Also, if it keeps coming back, visit a PT, they're p useful.