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    Re: Mittani's CSM Twitter Updates

    Regarding MT for standings: what others said, but it has also been mentioned in some other thread that such game design would also encourage making mission grinding even more painful than it already is so that people would be more willing to just pay for it.

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    Re: Mittani's CSM Twitter Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by Batolemaeus
    Aurum for standing means they'll nerf normal standing gain to optimize their profits.
    Same for anything else relating to MT.
    And don't tell me that would never happen. It has happened everywhere else, and CCP is running after every industry trend some dipshit in a suit tells them.

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    Re: Mittani's CSM Twitter Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by Reed Tiburon
    Quote Originally Posted by Batolemaeus
    Aurum for standing means they'll nerf normal standing gain to optimize their profits.
    Same for anything else relating to MT.
    And don't tell me that would never happen. It has happened everywhere else, and CCP is running after every industry trend some dipshit in a suit tells them.
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    Re: Mittani's CSM Twitter Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by Qwert
    If a feature is SO FUCKING BAD that people would pay CASH to skip it, they need to be fixing the fucking feature.
    That's the way most F2P games are designed though. You make something a pain in the ass to do and then you charge people to skip it. EVE already has all those pain in the arse things but they actually serve a purpose for the sandbox.

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    Re: Mittani's CSM Twitter Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoidberg
    Quote Originally Posted by Qwert
    If a feature is SO FUCKING BAD that people would pay CASH to skip it, they need to be fixing the fucking feature.
    Best way of putting it.
    No.

    NO!

    My God that is beyond retarded.

    Think for a second or two before posting idiotic drivel like that, mmmmkay? You geniuses are advocating the removal of all skill-training and ISK-earning features of the game, along with all consequences to combat. For quite some time now people have been using PLEX to pay cash for shiny ships and characters capable of flying them.

    EVE with no economy and no consequence PvP would not be EVE, and yet idiocy like what I quote above is being suggested all the fucking time. Think before you fucking post next time.


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    Re: Mittani's CSM Twitter Updates

    reading comprehension?
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    Re: Mittani's CSM Twitter Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony O
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoidberg
    Quote Originally Posted by Qwert
    If a feature is SO FUCKING BAD that people would pay CASH to skip it, they need to be fixing the fucking feature.
    Best way of putting it.
    No.

    NO!

    My God that is beyond retarded.

    Think for a second or two before posting idiotic drivel like that, mmmmkay? You geniuses are advocating the removal of all skill-training and ISK-earning features of the game, along with all consequences to combat. For quite some time now people have been using PLEX to pay cash for shiny ships and characters capable of flying them.

    EVE with no economy and no consequence PvP would not be EVE, and yet idiocy like what I quote above is being suggested all the fucking time. Think before you fucking post next time.


    Where is our syplayers: emoticon? and are not sufficient.
    I'm not sure how you got that from what I said...

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    Re: Mittani's CSM Twitter Updates

    well, i'm changing my mind: i just remembered that having options is good and that surely includes options to pay more. resubbing now!!1
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    Re: Mittani's CSM Twitter Updates

    Wrong quote?

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    Re: Mittani's CSM Twitter Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoidberg
    Quote Originally Posted by Tony O
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoidberg
    Quote Originally Posted by Qwert
    If a feature is SO FUCKING BAD that people would pay CASH to skip it, they need to be fixing the fucking feature.
    Best way of putting it.
    No.

    NO!

    My God that is beyond retarded.

    Think for a second or two before posting idiotic drivel like that, mmmmkay? You geniuses are advocating the removal of all skill-training and ISK-earning features of the game, along with all consequences to combat. For quite some time now people have been using PLEX to pay cash for shiny ships and characters capable of flying them.

    EVE with no economy and no consequence PvP would not be EVE, and yet idiocy like what I quote above is being suggested all the fucking time. Think before you fucking post next time.


    Where is our syplayers: emoticon? and are not sufficient.
    I'm not sure how you got that from what I said...
    The bit where players are so lazy/retarded that they will pay money to avoid playing the game as is, even mechanics that are not broken.

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    Re: Mittani's CSM Twitter Updates

    PLEX and before that GTCs... player to player "I give you ton of ISK and you pay me subscription" has been going on legally in EVE for ages.

    1. It isn't RMT because no one except CCP is earning any money from it.

    2. CCP isn't selling anything other than game time (something that MMO provider is supposed to do anyway)

    3. Once again, it isn't a microtransaction, nothing but subscription (token) is sold by CCP to anyone.

    4. with real microtransactions you have players buying in game items or services directly from game publisher, for real money or equivalent (AUR in our case)
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    Re: Mittani's CSM Twitter Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by Reed Tiburon
    The bit where players are so lazy/retarded that they will pay money to avoid playing the game as is, even mechanics that are not broken.
    Qwert and I were saying that the standings "grind" should be made more fun before there's a monetary option to bypass it. If a part of your game isn't fun, there's something wrong. The standings grind should always require hard work, but the work should be challenging and entertaining as this is a video game.

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    Re: Mittani's CSM Twitter Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoidberg
    Quote Originally Posted by Reed Tiburon
    The bit where players are so lazy/retarded that they will pay money to avoid playing the game as is, even mechanics that are not broken.
    Qwert and I were saying that the standings "grind" should be made more fun before there's a monetary option to bypass it. If a part of your game isn't fun, there's something wrong. The standings grind should always require hard work, but the work should be challenging and entertaining as this is a video game.
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    Re: Mittani's CSM Twitter Updates

    FWIW I think the CSM is being lied to again, and because the Icelanders are all chummy and BFF to them, they think it'll all be ok "once this is sorted out". Pathalogical liars like Zulu don't suddenly become straight because a PR tool is in the house. They just use that PR tool to make the discussions look important (if this were the 70s the room would be filled with smoke and there'd be coffee mugs all over) and then do a few things to make it look like they're changing their minds a bit and being all :srscustomers:, but they won't.

    Of course, I may well be completely wrong, but I'm still not resubbing and I'm still looking forward to some good entertainment tomorrow night.
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    Re: Mittani's CSM Twitter Updates

    Ofc you're completely wrong. These days we have coke lines and champagne glasses in the office.

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    Re: Mittani's CSM Twitter Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by Drachenlord
    oh no, a mission runner can buy his way to level 4 agents... SHOCKINGLY GAMEBREAKING... you people are just so dead set against anything like this you're blind

    Ships and Ammo, Gamebreaking... faction standings... oh no... oh no... those empire carebears can skip lvl 1-3 agents and..... grind lvl 4 missions.... which only takes a few days to get to anyway...

    so I fail to see how this is gamebreaking... and once you reach lvl 4's... it doesn't take that long for a hardcore missionfag to get to 9.0 to install a jump clone.

    So... explain since I'm so Fucking ignorant how this is truly gamebreaking for those of us that spend 90% of our time in 0.0?
    Being able to repair broken faction standings with 0 effort.

    For example it'll be a huge benefit to alliances that gypsy through NPC space as far more players will be able to run 0.0 missions with minimal investment. Also all those guys that nursed their standings to keep these options open just got kicked in the nuts as anyone with RL cash can compete with them and bring down the value of their LP.

    Can also add that why would CCP ever deliver on their promises for more pirate epic arcs when they're getting payed cash by people because they aren't available.

    That good enough for you?

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    Re: Mittani's CSM Twitter Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony O
    Where is our syplayers: emoticon? and are not sufficient.
    Wait so you want retarded, boring and broken mechanics in a game? Just because something is described as "broken" doesn't equate as call to "remove it". Mining as an example is boring as fuck, it's broken, nobody is saying minerals should magically appear in your hanger over time or we should kneecap the whole fucking EVE economy just that mining should be more fun.

    i.e. Not Broken.

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    Re: Mittani's CSM Twitter Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by thebomby
    Of course, I may well be completely wrong, but I'm still not resubbing and I'm still looking forward to some good entertainment tomorrow night.
    See that is exactly where the problem lies. If you don't see it, ah what the feck, it's useless to type, why am i still typing while i actually should

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    Re: Mittani's CSM Twitter Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoidberg
    Quote Originally Posted by Reed Tiburon
    The bit where players are so lazy/retarded that they will pay money to avoid playing the game as is, even mechanics that are not broken.
    Qwert and I were saying that the standings "grind" should be made more fun before there's a monetary option to bypass it. If a part of your game isn't fun, there's something wrong. The standings grind should always require hard work, but the work should be challenging and entertaining as this is a video game.
    I agree, but this is we're talking about here.

    "Break the game and charge AUR to fix it" is perfectly within their wheelhouse

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    Re: Mittani's CSM Twitter Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan Dax
    Ofc you're completely wrong. These days we have coke lines and champagne glasses in the office.
    I'm always the last to find these meetings, goddammit! I *hate* have to scrape the goddam tabletops!

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