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Thread: Zekk Pacus' AMD Ryze(n) hardware thread, July 2017

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    I'd rather have a real release in 1H2021 than more of the same shitshow in 1Q2021.
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    But to not even name them, to only show 2 reference card images and 1 of those being single fan solution, it's not even clear to people considering a 3060 or 3050 that a 6700XT/6700/6600/6500/6300 is a thing to compare with within 4 months. I don't think they'd be Osborning their own high tier cards but could certainly impact mindshare of the competition.
    Which reminds me, did we ever hear when Intel's Xe would actually arrive as a viable discrete 3rd option?
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    Idk about that, and i'm fucking stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufuske View Post
    I'd rather have a real release in 1H2021 than more of the same shitshow in 1Q2021.
    That would be preferable, true. Hell, I'd take available 3080s over any new releases.
    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    But to not even name them, to only show 2 reference card images and 1 of those being single fan solution, it's not even clear to people considering a 3060 or 3050 that a 6700XT/6700/6600/6500/6300 is a thing to compare with within 4 months. I don't think they'd be Osborning their own high tier cards but could certainly impact mindshare of the competition.
    Which reminds me, did we ever hear when Intel's Xe would actually arrive as a viable discrete 3rd option?
    3080TIs have popped up, they are seen as safe bets. But I'd rather have more of what was announced already than new cards. Though low end cards would be nice for people that are interested in those.

    IIRC the Xe was something for developers. Their new dedicated mobile graphic chips are Xe units. So no, you can't have one and probably wouldn't want one in the first place.

    EDIT:

    I should have checked my news feed.

    Nvidia's CES stream happened:
    https://www.engadget.com/nvidia-ces-...214335632.html

    Mobile GPUs and 3060. Right, 3060, the cheaper brother to the 3060ti. $329 msrp - yeah, that's gonna happen.

    Engadget CES 10 minute super cut:

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    Perhaps it's just paranoia but I'm wondering why they think the 3060 needs 12GB of VRAM.

    The x60 cards have been kind of a mixed bag recently to be honest - long, long gone are the days of the 460 and 560 which were your price/performance kings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zekk Pacus View Post
    Perhaps it's just paranoia but I'm wondering why they think the 3060 needs 12GB of VRAM.

    The x60 cards have been kind of a mixed bag recently to be honest - long, long gone are the days of the 460 and 560 which were your price/performance kings.
    Seeing this chart from anandtech just makes me think the 3060 is just designed to punch AMD by selling to people who think MORE VRAM EQUALS GOODER

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    Quote Originally Posted by whispous View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Zekk Pacus View Post
    Perhaps it's just paranoia but I'm wondering why they think the 3060 needs 12GB of VRAM.

    The x60 cards have been kind of a mixed bag recently to be honest - long, long gone are the days of the 460 and 560 which were your price/performance kings.
    Seeing this chart from anandtech just makes me think the 3060 is just designed to punch AMD by selling to people who think MORE VRAM EQUALS GOODER
    Clearly they're just over compensating for crippling the shitty 2060 with 6gb and then immediately releasing a super.

    Totes not bitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zekk Pacus View Post
    Perhaps it's just paranoia but I'm wondering why they think the 3060 needs 12GB of VRAM.

    The x60 cards have been kind of a mixed bag recently to be honest - long, long gone are the days of the 460 and 560 which were your price/performance kings.
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    It really depends on how much oomph the 3060 actually has. Because cards do benefit from more VRAM at least in the past 5 years or so, especially if you aim for 1440p.
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    Especially with RT enabled. 6GB pretty much kills viability of 2060 in Cyberpunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufuske View Post
    Especially with RT enabled. 6GB pretty much kills viability of 2060 in Cyberpunk.
    can't play with RTX on with my 2060, but everything else is basically maxed and the game looks more than gud

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    Quote Originally Posted by teds :D View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rufuske View Post
    Especially with RT enabled. 6GB pretty much kills viability of 2060 in Cyberpunk.
    can't play with RTX on with my 2060, but everything else is basically maxed and the game looks more than gud
    Yup, RT likes vram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teds :D View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rufuske View Post
    Especially with RT enabled. 6GB pretty much kills viability of 2060 in Cyberpunk.
    can't play with RTX on with my 2060, but everything else is basically maxed and the game looks more than gud
    You need to keep in mind that the 3060 should be a much beefier GPU than the 2060S. We'll have to wait and see benchmarks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
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    A 3080ti would be a better bet, as you have a chance to snag one on release if you camp websites at the release time.

    Buy the 3090 if you can't get one.
    Someone I know works for one of the largest retailers in Germany on the corporate side. For things currently on sale he has no chance. But he might have a chance getting a 3080ti. After all, he scored a 3080 for his gf around release.
    3080Ti release has been postponed "indefinitely".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmin View Post
    You need to keep in mind that the 3060 should be a much beefier GPU than the 2060S. We'll have to wait and see benchmarks.
    What exactly does this have to do with what we were talking about? The 2060 was mentioned because of its shitty vram amount messing it up. The super is entirely fine in comparison.

    Of course it will be much faster if the rest are anything to go by.
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    Why is it called earth, when it is mostly water???

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    So I got the update from my work told me they are shipping the laptop on monday. Therefore I am selling the laptops I have and I just went ahead and bought a new deskptop.



    This is what I bought. I went with Daneel's suggestion of the B550. I chose the ASUS ROG Strix E as it seemed to have a good amount of features I actually will want. The GFX card is going to be a fucking pain. I could have ordered a 3090 (lol 1300) but that was expensive. I want to go team red with a 6800xt, am I fool to do that over a 3080? Should I wait for 3080ti (good luck ofc)?

    I am going to get a 970ti as a stop gap between now and then.
    https://www.zotac.com/hk/product/gra...p-extreme-core

    I'm hoping this will play tarkov in potato mode for the time being.

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    I haven't watched this (and can't embed due to Tapapapatalk) but this should tell you whether it's a good idea or if you should get a 10 series or whatever for a similar price. Low end cards are available.

    https://youtu.be/bhLlHU_z55U

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    I haven't watched this (and can't embed due to Tapapapatalk) but this should tell you whether it's a good idea or if you should get a 10 series or whatever for a similar price. Low end cards are available.

    https://youtu.be/bhLlHU_z55U

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    I cannot find a 10-series card for that kind of price. I also watched that video. a 1060 would be nice! Double the performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Equium Duo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    I haven't watched this (and can't embed due to Tapapapatalk) but this should tell you whether it's a good idea or if you should get a 10 series or whatever for a similar price. Low end cards are available.

    https://youtu.be/bhLlHU_z55U

    Tapapapatalk
    I cannot find a 10-series card for that kind of price. I also watched that video. a 1060 would be nice! Double the performance.
    Hm, looking at the buy now offers for both cards on ebay.co.uk, the price difference isn't that steep for twice the perfo:
    1060:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ZOTAC-GeF...gAKC9&LH_BIN=1

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GeForce-G...Condition=3000

    970:
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Collectio...Condition=3000
    (this one is a lot cheaper than the others)

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Asus-Stri...Condition=3000
    (this seems to be the usual lower price point)
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    Yeah I'm just hoping to get something local, that I can pickup. Everyone I've contacted cant do pickup today.

    I'm also nervous about buying something adn finding it wont run Tarkov at 1440p (albeit potato mode)

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