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    Zen2 Threadripper inbound?

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    Eventually yes. According to Robert Hallock (AMDRep) anyway.

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    Might this make Threadripper a better value than Epyc?
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    But Threadripper is not intended for gaming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VARRAKK View Post
    But Threadripper is not intended for gaming.
    While true I'm guessing Zen2 Threadripper (Threadripper2?) might be less terrible at gaming than Threadripper1 was. All CCX now go through the I/O chiplet for their memory, so there aren't any CCX with much higher memory latency than the others, which was one of the bigger gaming issues Threadripper1 had. That is, if they follow the Zen2 design we've seen so far.

    Everything we know about the 64-core Epyc2 is that they've kept GHz very low to deal with thermal issues. It'll be interesting to see how they clock the chips with less cores and how they clock Threadripper2. That might have a big influence on real world gaming performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overspark View Post
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    But Threadripper is not intended for gaming.
    While true I'm guessing Zen2 Threadripper (Threadripper2?) might be less terrible at gaming than Threadripper1 was. All CCX now go through the I/O chiplet for their memory, so there aren't any CCX with much higher memory latency than the others, which was one of the bigger gaming issues Threadripper1 had. That is, if they follow the Zen2 design we've seen so far.

    Everything we know about the 64-core Epyc2 is that they've kept GHz very low to deal with thermal issues. It'll be interesting to see how they clock the chips with less cores and how they clock Threadripper2. That might have a big influence on real world gaming performance.
    Or maybe you want TR to run a bunch of VMs, not frag pubbies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordstern View Post
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    But Threadripper is not intended for gaming.
    While true I'm guessing Zen2 Threadripper (Threadripper2?) might be less terrible at gaming than Threadripper1 was. All CCX now go through the I/O chiplet for their memory, so there aren't any CCX with much higher memory latency than the others, which was one of the bigger gaming issues Threadripper1 had. That is, if they follow the Zen2 design we've seen so far.

    Everything we know about the 64-core Epyc2 is that they've kept GHz very low to deal with thermal issues. It'll be interesting to see how they clock the chips with less cores and how they clock Threadripper2. That might have a big influence on real world gaming performance.
    Or maybe you want TR to run a bunch of VMs, not frag pubbies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
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    But Threadripper is not intended for gaming.
    While true I'm guessing Zen2 Threadripper (Threadripper2?) might be less terrible at gaming than Threadripper1 was. All CCX now go through the I/O chiplet for their memory, so there aren't any CCX with much higher memory latency than the others, which was one of the bigger gaming issues Threadripper1 had. That is, if they follow the Zen2 design we've seen so far.

    Everything we know about the 64-core Epyc2 is that they've kept GHz very low to deal with thermal issues. It'll be interesting to see how they clock the chips with less cores and how they clock Threadripper2. That might have a big influence on real world gaming performance.
    Or maybe you want TR to run a bunch of VMs, not frag pubbies.
    porque no los dos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lachesis VII View Post
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    But Threadripper is not intended for gaming.
    While true I'm guessing Zen2 Threadripper (Threadripper2?) might be less terrible at gaming than Threadripper1 was. All CCX now go through the I/O chiplet for their memory, so there aren't any CCX with much higher memory latency than the others, which was one of the bigger gaming issues Threadripper1 had. That is, if they follow the Zen2 design we've seen so far.

    Everything we know about the 64-core Epyc2 is that they've kept GHz very low to deal with thermal issues. It'll be interesting to see how they clock the chips with less cores and how they clock Threadripper2. That might have a big influence on real world gaming performance.
    Or maybe you want TR to run a bunch of VMs, not frag pubbies.
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    It's starting.

    Also checked and my b350 board has a bios upgrade for the new cpus so its entirely too tempting.

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    tl;dr Top end Intel still faster for games although the margin has been diminished. 3900X absolutely dominates for non-game stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    tl;dr Top end Intel still faster for games
    well no fucking shit

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    Well, a R5 3600 will be ordered. But that was kinda a given .. RAM is cheap anyway.
    The mainboard is the question … as I want a board with a USB 3.1 Gen2 Front Panel Header. So its either something like a moderate X470 around 150, or I get one of the cheaper X570 one for around 200 (lol). Probably will end up being my most expensive mainboard ever :P


    Navi looks decent, but will have to wait for custom cards. Technically a Vega56 for 250,- is still better value for the buck, and enough for WQHD … buuut .. less shiny ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
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    tl;dr Top end Intel still faster for games
    well no fucking shit
    Mostly it's of the kind of scenario where you have to care about getting 137 fps rather than 154 fps at 1080p
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
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    tl;dr Top end Intel still faster for games
    well no fucking shit
    Mostly it's of the kind of scenario where you have to care about getting 137 fps rather than 154 fps at 1080p
    So if your 144hz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
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    tl;dr Top end Intel still faster for games
    well no fucking shit
    Mostly it's of the kind of scenario where you have to care about getting 137 fps rather than 154 fps at 1080p
    Reminder that you answered to the ryzen 5 benchmark and referred to top end intel. :P

    The top end models seem to compete just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
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    tl;dr Top end Intel still faster for games
    well no fucking shit
    Mostly it's of the kind of scenario where you have to care about getting 137 fps rather than 154 fps at 1080p
    Reminder that you answered to the ryzen 5 benchmark and referred to top end intel. :P

    The top end models seem to compete just fine.
    Reference to the 3900x might have indicated to some that I was summarising more than one video
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    Positively surprised, they delivered above expectations!
    I hope this will make Intel respond, with both price cuts and better products.

    For my use and budget, Intel will still be my first choice.
    Just waiting for those PCIe 4 mobos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VARRAKK View Post
    For my use and budget, Intel will still be my first choice.
    Gaming >144Hz fps while at low res? What else is not better on the more cores of Ryzen? Or am I misremembering results?
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    Idk about that, and i'm fucking stupid.

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