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    Anyone who does this, like drink drivers, deserves prison.

    I would immediately drop a friend who did this.
    I'd +rep you, but I've already done it too recently.

    No, it is not alright to drive while stoned. You're operating a multi-ton vehicle at speeds high enough to generate massive amounts of kinetic energy. The right way - the only way - to drive is stone cold sober, two hands on the wheel, doing nothing but paying attention to where your speeding hunk of metal is going and what the other hunks of metal around you are doing. If you don't want to do that, take a damn cab.
    Back in reality land ill be driving with one hand on the wheel mostly and with, while not a lack of concentration, ill only be applying as much as is needed to drive safely. Driving isnt that hard. this chat is getting to read a lot like "virgins discuss sex" but about driving.
    There are over 17K reported traffic accidents each day in the US, leading to just shy of 100 deaths. If the accident rate were the death rate, I might agree with you. But when there's a 5-digit number of accidents each and every day, one can only conclude that driving a car is clearly incredibly hard for a whole lot of people.
    Have some handy math. Americans drive 8.8 billion miles daily, or one fatality for every 88 million miles. At 17k accidents daily that's still a rate of only one accident per 500,000 miles driven, or about the distance an average person covers in 15-20 years. Given the whole multi-vehicle accident thing, I think statistics show an average driver being in an accident once every 7-10 years.

    Don't get me wrong, traffic accidents are still a significant source of mortality. But the individual risk is quite negligible; our roads are very safe. It follows that since all these statistics are the product of human action (i.e. people driving), driving can't be that difficult.
    Also we aren't forced to drive shitty SMART cars by the fascist unelected Euro council or whatever so our suburbans can take an impact, y'know.
    So that's why you lot aren't trusted to go faster than an asthmatic ant?

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    Pretty much.

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    Playing PUBG with Smuggo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larkonis Trassler View Post
    Playing PUBG with Smuggo.
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    Find car.
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    Immeadiately crashes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larkonis Trassler View Post
    Playing PUBG with Smuggo.
    He lights up a spliff before match.
    Find car.
    He drives.
    Immeadiately crashes.

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    And there we have it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
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    Playing PUBG with Smuggo.
    He lights up a spliff before match.
    Find car.
    He drives.
    Immeadiately crashes.

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    And there we have it...
    Merely a coincidence.

    You should see how I fly stoned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larkonis Trassler View Post
    Playing PUBG with Smuggo.
    He lights up a spliff before match.
    Find car.
    He drives.
    Immeadiately crashes.

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    It all worked out fine in the end tho.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
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    Playing PUBG with Smuggo.
    He lights up a spliff before match.
    Find car.
    He drives.
    Immeadiately crashes.

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    It all worked out fine in the end tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Flare View Post

    Not convinced those are particularly useful metrics. I find it unlikely that the sort of person who didn't smoke because it was illegal is the same sort of person who is then going to smoke and drive as soon as marijuana is legalized.
    What? Seriously?

    You dont think legalisation makes more people smoke / people smoke more often?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Hustlin View Post
    The NTSB did a report years ago that stated at any given time 25% on the drivers on the road are under the influence of prescription medication that should not be taken when operating a vehicle. Part of the downside of better living through modern chemistry
    Gonna need a source on that. 25% of the drivers on the road at any given time? Yeah... that sounds very very far off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Flare View Post

    Not convinced those are particularly useful metrics. I find it unlikely that the sort of person who didn't smoke because it was illegal is the same sort of person who is then going to smoke and drive as soon as marijuana is legalized.
    What? Seriously?

    You dont think legalisation makes more people smoke / people smoke more often?
    Well in countries where it is legal there tends to be lower usage. Also that's not what he's saying either.



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    If you did the job I do you would all stop drink & drug driving in a heartbeat. Its the cause of some of the most tragic shit I,ve ever seen.
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    Anyone who does this, like drink drivers, deserves prison.

    I would immediately drop a friend who did this.
    I'd +rep you, but I've already done it too recently.

    No, it is not alright to drive while stoned. You're operating a multi-ton vehicle at speeds high enough to generate massive amounts of kinetic energy. The right way - the only way - to drive is stone cold sober, two hands on the wheel, doing nothing but paying attention to where your speeding hunk of metal is going and what the other hunks of metal around you are doing. If you don't want to do that, take a damn cab.
    Back in reality land ill be driving with one hand on the wheel mostly and with, while not a lack of concentration, ill only be applying as much as is needed to drive safely. Driving isnt that hard. this chat is getting to read a lot like "virgins discuss sex" but about driving.
    There are over 17K reported traffic accidents each day in the US, leading to just shy of 100 deaths. If the accident rate were the death rate, I might agree with you. But when there's a 5-digit number of accidents each and every day, one can only conclude that driving a car is clearly incredibly hard for a whole lot of people.
    Have some handy math. Americans drive 8.8 billion miles daily, or one fatality for every 88 million miles. At 17k accidents daily that's still a rate of only one accident per 500,000 miles driven, or about the distance an average person covers in 15-20 years. Given the whole multi-vehicle accident thing, I think statistics show an average driver being in an accident once every 7-10 years.

    Don't get me wrong, traffic accidents are still a significant source of mortality. But the individual risk is quite negligible; our roads are very safe. It follows that since all these statistics are the product of human action (i.e. people driving), driving can't be that difficult.
    Road crashes lead to 2.1% of all deaths globally, "but the risks are negligable to the individual". A 1/50 chance of death is negligible????

    By that token, here are some other "negligible" risks throughout the world:

    All childhood diseases (1.9%)
    All birth complications and congenital defects (1.75%)
    Hypertensive heart disease (1.6%)
    Suicide (1.5%)
    All forms of inflicted violent death (1.28%)
    Falling (0.69%)
    Drowning (0.67%)

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    what are the road death figures for the UK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
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    Not convinced those are particularly useful metrics. I find it unlikely that the sort of person who didn't smoke because it was illegal is the same sort of person who is then going to smoke and drive as soon as marijuana is legalized.
    What? Seriously?

    You dont think legalisation makes more people smoke / people smoke more often?
    don't less people smoke from Holland than the UK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckslayer View Post
    what are the road death figures for the UK?

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    3.6ish per billion km, or half the US rate.

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    we should ban driving full stop tbh. it's dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elmicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Duckslayer View Post
    what are the road death figures for the UK?

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    3.6ish per billion km, or half the US rate.
    If I'm not mistaken most EU nations make it significantly more difficult to get a license and quite a bit easier to lose a license as well.

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