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    it is alright driving whilst stoned.

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    it is alright driving whilst stoned.

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    it is alright driving whilst stoned.

    why does helgur have a red name ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckslayer View Post
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    Anyone who does this, like drink drivers, deserves prison.

    I would immediately drop a friend who did this.
    I'd +rep you, but I've already done it too recently.

    No, it is not alright to drive while stoned. You're operating a multi-ton vehicle at speeds high enough to generate massive amounts of kinetic energy. The right way - the only way - to drive is stone cold sober, two hands on the wheel, doing nothing but paying attention to where your speeding hunk of metal is going and what the other hunks of metal around you are doing. If you don't want to do that, take a damn cab.
    Back in reality land ill be driving with one hand on the wheel mostly and with, while not a lack of concentration, ill only be applying as much as is needed to drive safely. Driving isnt that hard. this chat is getting to read a lot like "virgins discuss sex" but about driving.
    There are over 17K reported traffic accidents each day in the US, leading to just shy of 100 deaths. If the accident rate were the death rate, I might agree with you. But when there's a 5-digit number of accidents each and every day, one can only conclude that driving a car is clearly incredibly hard for a whole lot of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verite Rendition View Post
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    Anyone who does this, like drink drivers, deserves prison.

    I would immediately drop a friend who did this.
    I'd +rep you, but I've already done it too recently.

    No, it is not alright to drive while stoned. You're operating a multi-ton vehicle at speeds high enough to generate massive amounts of kinetic energy. The right way - the only way - to drive is stone cold sober, two hands on the wheel, doing nothing but paying attention to where your speeding hunk of metal is going and what the other hunks of metal around you are doing. If you don't want to do that, take a damn cab.
    Back in reality land ill be driving with one hand on the wheel mostly and with, while not a lack of concentration, ill only be applying as much as is needed to drive safely. Driving isnt that hard. this chat is getting to read a lot like "virgins discuss sex" but about driving.
    There are over 17K reported traffic accidents each day in the US, leading to just shy of 100 deaths. If the accident rate were the death rate, I might agree with you. But when there's a 5-digit number of accidents each and every day, one can only conclude that driving a car is clearly incredibly hard for a whole lot of people.
    17k folk should have had a j and chilled they got behind the wheel then. driving is not difficult. stressing out getting nowhere fast causes rta's. fucking know this. man
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verite Rendition View Post
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    Anyone who does this, like drink drivers, deserves prison.

    I would immediately drop a friend who did this.
    I'd +rep you, but I've already done it too recently.

    No, it is not alright to drive while stoned. You're operating a multi-ton vehicle at speeds high enough to generate massive amounts of kinetic energy. The right way - the only way - to drive is stone cold sober, two hands on the wheel, doing nothing but paying attention to where your speeding hunk of metal is going and what the other hunks of metal around you are doing. If you don't want to do that, take a damn cab.
    Back in reality land ill be driving with one hand on the wheel mostly and with, while not a lack of concentration, ill only be applying as much as is needed to drive safely. Driving isnt that hard. this chat is getting to read a lot like "virgins discuss sex" but about driving.
    There are over 17K reported traffic accidents each day in the US, leading to just shy of 100 deaths. If the accident rate were the death rate, I might agree with you. But when there's a 5-digit number of accidents each and every day, one can only conclude that driving a car is clearly incredibly hard for a whole lot of people.
    Have some handy math. Americans drive 8.8 billion miles daily, or one fatality for every 88 million miles. At 17k accidents daily that's still a rate of only one accident per 500,000 miles driven, or about the distance an average person covers in 15-20 years. Given the whole multi-vehicle accident thing, I think statistics show an average driver being in an accident once every 7-10 years.

    Don't get me wrong, traffic accidents are still a significant source of mortality. But the individual risk is quite negligible; our roads are very safe. It follows that since all these statistics are the product of human action (i.e. people driving), driving can't be that difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    There need to be other vehicles to do unexpected things for your argument to work.
    ye ur own vehicle cant' do anything unexpected and neither can animals
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lachesis VII View Post
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    Anyone who does this, like drink drivers, deserves prison.

    I would immediately drop a friend who did this.
    I'd +rep you, but I've already done it too recently.

    No, it is not alright to drive while stoned. You're operating a multi-ton vehicle at speeds high enough to generate massive amounts of kinetic energy. The right way - the only way - to drive is stone cold sober, two hands on the wheel, doing nothing but paying attention to where your speeding hunk of metal is going and what the other hunks of metal around you are doing. If you don't want to do that, take a damn cab.
    Back in reality land ill be driving with one hand on the wheel mostly and with, while not a lack of concentration, ill only be applying as much as is needed to drive safely. Driving isnt that hard. this chat is getting to read a lot like "virgins discuss sex" but about driving.
    There are over 17K reported traffic accidents each day in the US, leading to just shy of 100 deaths. If the accident rate were the death rate, I might agree with you. But when there's a 5-digit number of accidents each and every day, one can only conclude that driving a car is clearly incredibly hard for a whole lot of people.
    Have some handy math. Americans drive 8.8 billion miles daily, or one fatality for every 88 million miles. At 17k accidents daily that's still a rate of only one accident per 500,000 miles driven, or about the distance an average person covers in 15-20 years. Given the whole multi-vehicle accident thing, I think statistics show an average driver being in an accident once every 7-10 years.

    Don't get me wrong, traffic accidents are still a significant source of mortality. But the individual risk is quite negligible; our roads are very safe. It follows that since all these statistics are the product of human action (i.e. people driving), driving can't be that difficult.
    Also we aren't forced to drive shitty SMART cars by the fascist unelected Euro council or whatever so our suburbans can take an impact, y'know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckslayer View Post
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    Basically yeah, because any threats that you aren't aware of are by definition threats you aren't aware of. Thus you should always be alert, because you can never know everything you don't know.

    At least while you're driving a hunk of metal at ludicrous speeds.
    Sounds like terrifying way to live your life. "this house i own COULD HAVE A MURDERER HIDING UNDER THE BED!" every day because you never know.


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    And all of this changes nothing when it comes to driving under the influence of drugs.

    You're still a fucking retard if you do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lachesis VII View Post
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    Anyone who does this, like drink drivers, deserves prison.

    I would immediately drop a friend who did this.
    I'd +rep you, but I've already done it too recently.

    No, it is not alright to drive while stoned. You're operating a multi-ton vehicle at speeds high enough to generate massive amounts of kinetic energy. The right way - the only way - to drive is stone cold sober, two hands on the wheel, doing nothing but paying attention to where your speeding hunk of metal is going and what the other hunks of metal around you are doing. If you don't want to do that, take a damn cab.
    Back in reality land ill be driving with one hand on the wheel mostly and with, while not a lack of concentration, ill only be applying as much as is needed to drive safely. Driving isnt that hard. this chat is getting to read a lot like "virgins discuss sex" but about driving.
    There are over 17K reported traffic accidents each day in the US, leading to just shy of 100 deaths. If the accident rate were the death rate, I might agree with you. But when there's a 5-digit number of accidents each and every day, one can only conclude that driving a car is clearly incredibly hard for a whole lot of people.
    Have some handy math. Americans drive 8.8 billion miles daily, or one fatality for every 88 million miles. At 17k accidents daily that's still a rate of only one accident per 500,000 miles driven, or about the distance an average person covers in 15-20 years. Given the whole multi-vehicle accident thing, I think statistics show an average driver being in an accident once every 7-10 years.

    Don't get me wrong, traffic accidents are still a significant source of mortality. But the individual risk is quite negligible; our roads are very safe. It follows that since all these statistics are the product of human action (i.e. people driving), driving can't be that difficult.
    Source for those statistics. Not because I disbelieve, but because I want to mine them for a more useful metric than just the mean.

    The "average" driver does not exist. What you want is the median and standard deviation.
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    Stoners sriving very safely on a road they know with nothing unexpected happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steph View Post
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    Anyone who does this, like drink drivers, deserves prison.

    I would immediately drop a friend who did this.
    I'd +rep you, but I've already done it too recently.

    No, it is not alright to drive while stoned. You're operating a multi-ton vehicle at speeds high enough to generate massive amounts of kinetic energy. The right way - the only way - to drive is stone cold sober, two hands on the wheel, doing nothing but paying attention to where your speeding hunk of metal is going and what the other hunks of metal around you are doing. If you don't want to do that, take a damn cab.
    Back in reality land ill be driving with one hand on the wheel mostly and with, while not a lack of concentration, ill only be applying as much as is needed to drive safely. Driving isnt that hard. this chat is getting to read a lot like "virgins discuss sex" but about driving.
    There are over 17K reported traffic accidents each day in the US, leading to just shy of 100 deaths. If the accident rate were the death rate, I might agree with you. But when there's a 5-digit number of accidents each and every day, one can only conclude that driving a car is clearly incredibly hard for a whole lot of people.
    Have some handy math. Americans drive 8.8 billion miles daily, or one fatality for every 88 million miles. At 17k accidents daily that's still a rate of only one accident per 500,000 miles driven, or about the distance an average person covers in 15-20 years. Given the whole multi-vehicle accident thing, I think statistics show an average driver being in an accident once every 7-10 years.

    Don't get me wrong, traffic accidents are still a significant source of mortality. But the individual risk is quite negligible; our roads are very safe. It follows that since all these statistics are the product of human action (i.e. people driving), driving can't be that difficult.
    Source for those statistics. Not because I disbelieve, but because I want to mine them for a more useful metric than just the mean.

    The "average" driver does not exist. What you want is the median and standard deviation.
    Well you can calculate based on the average distance from work. I'm an anomaly because I'm closer than the average (15 miles/24km). But assuming everyone is like me, which why wouldn't they be? That's 20 million miles per day just driving taking in to account the full time employed population only. This omits all driving that is attached to a profession like landscapers, cab drivers, truck drivers, utilities, plumbers etc etc.

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    ye ur own vehicle cant' do anything unexpected and neither can animals
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steph View Post
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    Anyone who does this, like drink drivers, deserves prison.

    I would immediately drop a friend who did this.
    I'd +rep you, but I've already done it too recently.

    No, it is not alright to drive while stoned. You're operating a multi-ton vehicle at speeds high enough to generate massive amounts of kinetic energy. The right way - the only way - to drive is stone cold sober, two hands on the wheel, doing nothing but paying attention to where your speeding hunk of metal is going and what the other hunks of metal around you are doing. If you don't want to do that, take a damn cab.
    Back in reality land ill be driving with one hand on the wheel mostly and with, while not a lack of concentration, ill only be applying as much as is needed to drive safely. Driving isnt that hard. this chat is getting to read a lot like "virgins discuss sex" but about driving.
    There are over 17K reported traffic accidents each day in the US, leading to just shy of 100 deaths. If the accident rate were the death rate, I might agree with you. But when there's a 5-digit number of accidents each and every day, one can only conclude that driving a car is clearly incredibly hard for a whole lot of people.
    Have some handy math. Americans drive 8.8 billion miles daily, or one fatality for every 88 million miles. At 17k accidents daily that's still a rate of only one accident per 500,000 miles driven, or about the distance an average person covers in 15-20 years. Given the whole multi-vehicle accident thing, I think statistics show an average driver being in an accident once every 7-10 years.

    Don't get me wrong, traffic accidents are still a significant source of mortality. But the individual risk is quite negligible; our roads are very safe. It follows that since all these statistics are the product of human action (i.e. people driving), driving can't be that difficult.
    Source for those statistics. Not because I disbelieve, but because I want to mine them for a more useful metric than just the mean.

    The "average" driver does not exist. What you want is the median and standard deviation.
    Total national mileage = https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/pressroom/fhwa1704.cfm

    Total national miles / 365 = total daily national miles.

    TDNM / daily fatalities = miles per fatality.

    TDNM / daily accidents = miles per accident.

    Average individual annual mileage: https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/ohim/onh00/bar8.htm

    Miles per fatality / AIAM = period per fatality.

    Miles per accident / AIAM = period per accident.

    Looks like I actually overstated the case, as I assumed 25k miles per year average, when it's closer to 15. Per this article, at least, an average driver is in an accident once every 17 years.

    https://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcom...ww.google.com/

    Yes, median and SD are also important for the whole picture. But VC made it sound like accidents are a huge menace, when really they aren't. They're rare on an individual level, and very rarely fatal. Napkin maths are sufficient for this context.

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    Anyone who does this, like drink drivers, deserves prison.

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    I'd +rep you, but I've already done it too recently.

    No, it is not alright to drive while stoned. You're operating a multi-ton vehicle at speeds high enough to generate massive amounts of kinetic energy. The right way - the only way - to drive is stone cold sober, two hands on the wheel, doing nothing but paying attention to where your speeding hunk of metal is going and what the other hunks of metal around you are doing. If you don't want to do that, take a damn cab.
    Back in reality land ill be driving with one hand on the wheel mostly and with, while not a lack of concentration, ill only be applying as much as is needed to drive safely. Driving isnt that hard. this chat is getting to read a lot like "virgins discuss sex" but about driving.
    There are over 17K reported traffic accidents each day in the US, leading to just shy of 100 deaths. If the accident rate were the death rate, I might agree with you. But when there's a 5-digit number of accidents each and every day, one can only conclude that driving a car is clearly incredibly hard for a whole lot of people.
    Have some handy math. Americans drive 8.8 billion miles daily, or one fatality for every 88 million miles. At 17k accidents daily that's still a rate of only one accident per 500,000 miles driven, or about the distance an average person covers in 15-20 years. Given the whole multi-vehicle accident thing, I think statistics show an average driver being in an accident once every 7-10 years.

    Don't get me wrong, traffic accidents are still a significant source of mortality. But the individual risk is quite negligible; our roads are very safe. It follows that since all these statistics are the product of human action (i.e. people driving), driving can't be that difficult.
    Also we aren't forced to drive shitty SMART cars by the fascist unelected Euro council or whatever so our suburbans can take an impact, y'know.
    So that's why you lot aren't trusted to go faster than an asthmatic ant?

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