Pay AUR to receive an SP pool for time unsubbed.

[Nu11u5]

So you ragequit or go broke IRL and come back a few months down the road, but you missed a few million SP. Just pay some Aurum (e.g. 3500 Aur for 1 million SP) for each month you were gone and receive an SP pool you can assign to skills to catch up for time away.

This is only Aurum for SP you would have received if you didn't stop subbing.

[Ryas Nia]

this is a hard one for me, i have a good friend who used to play and would totally come back to eve if he could do this, to my mind i used to be a huge hell no but now im thinking that as long as the amount is equal to a mthly sub i dont see it as being too big an issue other than how the SP are then used. Im worried that dead accts from 2003 could come back and instantly be titan 5 pilots.

[zergl]

*unsubs an acc for a few months while playing on another one*
*subs again, pays up*
*has full leadership skills on a vanilla achura stat char*


Nope.

Maybe borderline acceptable if it's capped at x months of SP and has the SP/Time ratio of the least amount possible in every attribute.

[Obic]

I'm inclined to say no. But if it were penalized say half the SP you'd of otherwise earned (for the full price).

Maybe... Hmmm..... Nope gonna stick with no.

[raiden55]

i would double my main SPs with that, pretty tempting...

[Sponk]

Sure. Would possibly crash the character market unless the SP-per-plex was quite low, but whatev.

[Jester]

Im worried that dead accts from 2003 could come back and instantly be titan 5 pilots.

You had me kinda nodding... until you typed this. Then my brain went "Oh, HELL no!" Instant crash of the character market.

[Tarminic]

Maybe borderline acceptable if it's capped at x months of SP and has the SP/Time ratio of the least amount possible in every attribute.

[strike:1bea521f]I would be okay with this. You would essentially be backpaying your account via PLEX.[/strike:1bea521f]

Im worried that dead accts from 2003 could come back and instantly be titan 5 pilots.

You had me kinda nodding... until you typed this. Then my brain went "Oh, HELL no!" Instant crash of the character market.

Fuck, good point. I'm still nt 100% against it but there would have to be some kind of limit, either by total SP or skill rank.

[Melichor]

Would an alternate suggestion that could work be if you are inactive for a certain amount of time you could gain a slight (<---keyword) boost to training speed to help catch up with skills you didn't train. Maybe somewhere along the lines of 1.3x multiplier so that way you can get back into the game if you were away but not make it too fast to make insane Titan V characters overnight

[Mike deVoid]

Im worried that dead accts from 2003 could come back and instantly be titan 5 pilots.

Again, an example of MT for convenience that would easily be abused as MT for power in completely unavoidable ways. Not acceptable if it allows all unsubbed training time to be recovered.

Maybe limit it to 1.8 mill SP (an equiv. training speed of 2500 SP/hr over 30 days) for each consecutive 6 months period the account has been unsubbed. It would allow re-subbing older accounts to be desirable as would be able to insta train for closely trained ships without allowing insta titan-5 alts.

[noobcake]

tantamount to buying SP...no

[Kenpachi]

Im worried that dead accts from 2003 could come back and instantly be titan 5 pilots.

You had me kinda nodding... until you typed this. Then my brain went "Oh, HELL no!" Instant crash of the character market.

That's only 96 plexes, or about 34 bill isk

[Mike deVoid]

Im worried that dead accts from 2003 could come back and instantly be titan 5 pilots.

You had me kinda nodding... until you typed this. Then my brain went "Oh, HELL no!" Instant crash of the character market.

That's only 96 plexes, or about 34 bill isk

How does that compare to the char market?

[Ash2k7]

[quote=Mike deVoid]

Im worried that dead accts from 2003 could come back and instantly be titan 5 pilots.

You had me kinda nodding... until you typed this. Then my brain went "Oh, HELL no!" Instant crash of the character market.

That's only 96 plexes, or about 34 bill isk

How does that compare to the char market?[/quote:2o47idb7]
Since I have, er, quite a lot of time unsubbed, I could really use this.

I'd go from sub-cap focused to fighter bombers 5. Of course I don't want to be in a MS on my main anyways, so crashing the char market would be handy to add a super specialist on my 3rd account.

Probably a bad idea for the game.

[Jester]

Uh huh. I can see it on the Character Bazaar now.

"Subbed in October 2003. Unsubbed in January 2004. Avatar customization available. Positive wallet. 131 million SP to distribute. Three remaps."

I repeat: HELL no.

[dzajic]

No, looks "well its okish" on first glance... and then you see how actually terribad it would be.

[illectro]

There are variations that would be more acceptable for sure - I'd prefer 'buy double training time for Aur' with a limitation on the number of months you can get double training time based on
a) how long the account was unsubbed for
b) how long the account was active for (i.e. you can't just sign up a trial and then activate it a year later to take advantage of this)
c) A hard cap at perhaps 6 months

[Beefcake]

It's very easy, let me spell it out:

For all players SP costs €14,95 per month and depends on attributes and implants.

That's it, and that's how it must stay to be. SP for unsubbed time, that'll be the day. It's comparable to how 14 year old kids don't want to be called kids because they feel so adulty... they don't understand why they need to wait.

Instant sp = death of the Eve learning experience. It's a timeless game and there's enough you can do while training SP. The wait makes it worth it, without that, the game is worthless.

But ok, I'm against AUR anyway. The only thing I'd accept that would affect SP is training and logging in multiple chars per account for extra normal cash each month. For example €14,95 for the first char and then €5 eur training money per additional char for a max of 3 chars per account.

[Jester]

There are variations that would be more acceptable for sure - I'd prefer 'buy double training time for Aur' with a limitation on the number of months you can get double training time based on
a) how long the account was unsubbed for
b) how long the account was active for (i.e. you can't just sign up a trial and then activate it a year later to take advantage of this)
c) A hard cap at perhaps 6 months

Also terribad. People would sign up for this right before every winter expansion, play for six months, then unsub for six months. Then sign up for it again before the next winter expansion.

Result: all the SP of being signed up for a full year, but costs only six months of subscription time plus AUR. And as a bonus, it reduces the value of the overall EVE player base, particularly during the quieter months.

[Ash2k7]

There are variations that would be more acceptable for sure - I'd prefer 'buy double training time for Aur' with a limitation on the number of months you can get double training time based on
a) how long the account was unsubbed for
b) how long the account was active for (i.e. you can't just sign up a trial and then activate it a year later to take advantage of this)
c) A hard cap at perhaps 6 months

Also terribad. People would sign up for this right before every winter expansion, play for six months, then unsub for six months. Then sign up for it again before the next winter expansion.

Result: all the SP of being signed up for a full year, but costs only six months of subscription time plus AUR. And as a bonus, it reduces the value of the overall EVE player base, particularly during the quieter months.

Err I thought the assumption was that the cost would be the equivalent (or lol CCP more) of using PLEX to play EVE.

The time and cost are the exact same as for any other account, you're just able to decide to come back after being bitter and unsubbed for a while with no SP penalty if you pay for your missed time.