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    Quote Originally Posted by Venec View Post
    I mean, fuck, I know right wing people can be stupid when it comes to the common sense, but how moronic can you get when you treat the threat to your entire species welbeing/existence as an imaginary, political problem?

    Explain this to me CC. Why are you so butthurt about everyone else trying to not die in the foreseeable future? Why? Whole fucking point of your beliefs are mantaining status quo or outright backpedalling to "the good old days", YOU should be screaming the loudest about protecting the enviroment that was given to you by a religious deity for safekeeping. I can't fucking wrap my head why it's the other way.
    Don’t be naive, the life expectancy is raising and humanity will solve the environmental problems as it did in past. I’m old enough to remember other predictions:

    1966: Oil gone in 10 years.
    1967: Dire famines in western countries by 1975.
    1968: The population bomb in 1970-1980.
    1970: World will used up all natural resources by 2000.
    1970: Urban citizens will require gas masks by 1985.
    1970: Nitrogen buildup will make land infertile.
    1970: Pollution will kill all the fish.
    1970: Killer bees.
    1970: Ice age by 2000.
    1970: Water rationing in US by 1974, food rationing by 1980.
    1971: Ice age by 2020-2030.
    1972: Ice age by 2070.
    1972: Oil depleted by 1992.
    1974: Satellites say ice age coming fast.
    1974: Ozone depletion soon.
    1976: Scientific consensus says the planet is cooling and a famine is imminent.
    1978: No end in sight for the global cooling trend, we're all doomed.
    1980: Acid rain!
    1988: Regional droughts in the UK (that never happened) by 1990.
    1988: Maldives will by underwater by 2018.
    1989: Rising sea levels will destroy the US by 2000.
    1989: New York will be underwater by 2018.
    2000: Children won't know what snow is.
    2002: Famine in 10 years if we don't stop eating fish.
    2004: Britain will be Siberia by 2024.
    2005: Manhattan underwater by 2015.
    2006: Super hurricanes! (the opposite is true, they've got weaker on average)
    2008: Al Gore predicts ice caps gone by 2013.
    2009: Prince Charles says we have 96 months to save the world.
    2009: Gordon Brown says we have 50 days to save the world.
    2009: Al Gore says he was wrong by a year, it'll be 2014.
    2013: Arctic ice free by 2015.
    2014: Only 500 days before 'Climate Chaos'.
    2019: Autistic screeching sweedish children...

    And something was done in each case.

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    So you're reeing at people wanting to do something about climate catastrophe, because in the past people wanted to do something about other problems (like ozone layer and acid rains) and succeeded? All while cherry picking missed predictions and ignoring the everything else, including statistical trends and scientific consensus?

    Am I reading this right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Crush View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Venec View Post
    I mean, fuck, I know right wing people can be stupid when it comes to the common sense, but how moronic can you get when you treat the threat to your entire species welbeing/existence as an imaginary, political problem?

    Explain this to me CC. Why are you so butthurt about everyone else trying to not die in the foreseeable future? Why? Whole fucking point of your beliefs are mantaining status quo or outright backpedalling to "the good old days", YOU should be screaming the loudest about protecting the enviroment that was given to you by a religious deity for safekeeping. I can't fucking wrap my head why it's the other way.
    Don’t be naive, the life expectancy is raising and humanity will solve the environmental problems as it did in past. I’m old enough to remember other predictions:

    1966: Oil gone in 10 years.
    1967: Dire famines in western countries by 1975.
    1968: The population bomb in 1970-1980.
    1970: World will used up all natural resources by 2000.
    1970: Urban citizens will require gas masks by 1985.
    1970: Nitrogen buildup will make land infertile.
    1970: Pollution will kill all the fish.
    1970: Killer bees.
    1970: Ice age by 2000.
    1970: Water rationing in US by 1974, food rationing by 1980.
    1971: Ice age by 2020-2030.
    1972: Ice age by 2070.
    1972: Oil depleted by 1992.
    1974: Satellites say ice age coming fast.
    1974: Ozone depletion soon.
    1976: Scientific consensus says the planet is cooling and a famine is imminent.
    1978: No end in sight for the global cooling trend, we're all doomed.
    1980: Acid rain!
    1988: Regional droughts in the UK (that never happened) by 1990.
    1988: Maldives will by underwater by 2018.
    1989: Rising sea levels will destroy the US by 2000.
    1989: New York will be underwater by 2018.
    2000: Children won't know what snow is.
    2002: Famine in 10 years if we don't stop eating fish.
    2004: Britain will be Siberia by 2024.
    2005: Manhattan underwater by 2015.
    2006: Super hurricanes! (the opposite is true, they've got weaker on average)
    2008: Al Gore predicts ice caps gone by 2013.
    2009: Prince Charles says we have 96 months to save the world.
    2009: Gordon Brown says we have 50 days to save the world.
    2009: Al Gore says he was wrong by a year, it'll be 2014.
    2013: Arctic ice free by 2015.
    2014: Only 500 days before 'Climate Chaos'.
    2019: Autistic screeching sweedish children...

    And something was done in each case.
    You are intentionally trolling by combining actual problems that were addressed in some manner over the years, with completely imaginary problems where newspapers were misinterpreting scientific findings, with short lived wrong predictions that were quickly dismissed.

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    I just want to know his mindset. Why he thinks we can afford not to act and dismiss the problem, even if things are half as bad as scientists say.

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    Public hysteria is not act.

    Let's not forget AOC, last January:
    "Millennials and people, you know, Gen Z and all these folks that will come after us are looking up and we're like, The world is going to end in 12 years if we don't address climate change and your biggest issue ishow are we gonna pay for it?" the freshman congresswoman said. "This is the war—this is our World War II."

    https://www.newsweek.com/alexandria-...report-1300873

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    You didn't answer my question.

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    Dire famines in western countries by 1975. -- Can happen if not more sources of chemical fertilisation is discovered, there is a shortage on the horizon.
    1970: Urban citizens will require gas masks by 1985. -- Maybe they where of 20 years, but some cities today do need it, and it shortens the life expectancy between 2 (on average) and up to 10 years in those cities that are worst (Bombay, New Dheli, Bejing etc). (https://aqli.epic.uchicago.edu/news/...fe-expectancy/)
    1970: Pollution will kill all the fish. -- Pollution and overfishing is still doing this.
    1972: Ice age by 2070. -- Models got better, can happen but not as plausible since Gulf stream seems more resilient than believed.
    1974: Ozone depletion soon. -- Cause the world took action and banned Ozone destroying chemicals from use.
    1980: Acid rain! -- Is a thing, its destroying our lakes.
    1988: Regional droughts in the UK (that never happened) by 1990 -- In Europe 7 of the last 10 years have been the warmest ever recorded, heatwave 2018 killed hundreds in France and im pretty sure UK had "heat waves".
    2004: Britain will be Siberia by 2024. -- Well russians own all the prime real estate, so not wrong :P
    2006: Super hurricanes! (the opposite is true, they've got weaker on average) -- That is not what the Meteorologists say: https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-war...nd-hurricanes/

    2013: Arctic ice free by 2015. -- Still happening, North west passage was navigation able 2009, North eastern passage was navigational 1997

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzajic View Post
    Russian gas lobby
    Imma let u finish but RosAtom is the biggest international NPP contractor.

    Out of around 40 civilian reactors under construction 15 is built by russians. Only 3 in extra-USSR europe - 2 in Slovakia (russian) and 1 in Finland.

    How is that a russian lobby?
    Last edited by RazoR; December 30 2019 at 08:49:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Crush View Post
    2004: Britain will be Siberia by 2024.
    Now to be fair, the jury is still out on this one


    Poland treats me like shit and I hate them as a result of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Crush View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Venec View Post
    I mean, fuck, I know right wing people can be stupid when it comes to the common sense, but how moronic can you get when you treat the threat to your entire species welbeing/existence as an imaginary, political problem?

    Explain this to me CC. Why are you so butthurt about everyone else trying to not die in the foreseeable future? Why? Whole fucking point of your beliefs are mantaining status quo or outright backpedalling to "the good old days", YOU should be screaming the loudest about protecting the enviroment that was given to you by a religious deity for safekeeping. I can't fucking wrap my head why it's the other way.
    Don’t be naive, the life expectancy is raising and humanity will solve the environmental problems as it did in past. I’m old enough to remember other predictions:

    1966: Oil gone in 10 years.
    1967: Dire famines in western countries by 1975.
    1968: The population bomb in 1970-1980.
    1970: World will used up all natural resources by 2000.
    1970: Urban citizens will require gas masks by 1985.
    1970: Nitrogen buildup will make land infertile.
    1970: Pollution will kill all the fish.
    1970: Killer bees.
    1970: Ice age by 2000.
    1970: Water rationing in US by 1974, food rationing by 1980.
    1971: Ice age by 2020-2030.
    1972: Ice age by 2070.
    1972: Oil depleted by 1992.
    1974: Satellites say ice age coming fast.
    1974: Ozone depletion soon.
    1976: Scientific consensus says the planet is cooling and a famine is imminent.
    1978: No end in sight for the global cooling trend, we're all doomed.
    1980: Acid rain!
    1988: Regional droughts in the UK (that never happened) by 1990.
    1988: Maldives will by underwater by 2018.
    1989: Rising sea levels will destroy the US by 2000.
    1989: New York will be underwater by 2018.
    2000: Children won't know what snow is.
    2002: Famine in 10 years if we don't stop eating fish.
    2004: Britain will be Siberia by 2024.
    2005: Manhattan underwater by 2015.
    2006: Super hurricanes! (the opposite is true, they've got weaker on average)
    2008: Al Gore predicts ice caps gone by 2013.
    2009: Prince Charles says we have 96 months to save the world.
    2009: Gordon Brown says we have 50 days to save the world.
    2009: Al Gore says he was wrong by a year, it'll be 2014.
    2013: Arctic ice free by 2015.
    2014: Only 500 days before 'Climate Chaos'.
    2019: Autistic screeching sweedish children...

    And something was done in each case.
    And how much of those predictions came from reputable research and scientists? FYI the climate crisis that is starting to unfold right now was accurately predicted by scientists in the 1970's. You are living in a make believe world where you think everything is fine or that it will be. We are, as things are currently standing properly fucked.

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    Candy can fuck right off as i'm celebrating new year's in a +2 freezing rain. What a tosser.

    something something climate change is not entirely human-caused blah blah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Crush View Post
    2019: Autistic screeching sweedish children...
    And then there is you, an "old enough" man with worse symptoms and nothing to show...

    Maybe go work on that you pos.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tarminic View Post
    I would create a dragon made out of vaginas. Then I would create a dragon made out of dicks. Then I would have them fight to the death.

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    So because climate change hasn't affected cc personally its not important because science will fix it. Meanwhile Syria is still being blown up after years of climate change caused drought made massive parts of the country infertile leading to civil war. The middle east is becoming a wasteland only saved by the massive stacks of cash being thrown into not becoming a wasteland. Indian and Chinese cities require gas masks because of the smog. The amazon is on fire. Australia is on fire. US West coast is on fire. Venice is underwater. Polar bears are starving because the ice sheets they rely on to walk to their next meal are gone.

    But hey science will solve all that before it happens, oh wait no it hasn't.

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    Also that didn't sound like abloo bloo to me, PM me and we can agree on a meeting spot and settle this with queensberry rules, that's a serious offer btw. I've been a member of this community since 2005 and i've never met a more toxic individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Crush View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Venec View Post
    I mean, fuck, I know right wing people can be stupid when it comes to the common sense, but how moronic can you get when you treat the threat to your entire species welbeing/existence as an imaginary, political problem?

    Explain this to me CC. Why are you so butthurt about everyone else trying to not die in the foreseeable future? Why? Whole fucking point of your beliefs are mantaining status quo or outright backpedalling to "the good old days", YOU should be screaming the loudest about protecting the enviroment that was given to you by a religious deity for safekeeping. I can't fucking wrap my head why it's the other way.
    Don’t be naive, the life expectancy is raising and humanity will solve the environmental problems as it did in past. I’m old enough to remember other predictions:

    1966: Oil gone in 10 years.
    1967: Dire famines in western countries by 1975.
    1968: The population bomb in 1970-1980.
    1970: World will used up all natural resources by 2000.
    1970: Urban citizens will require gas masks by 1985.
    1970: Nitrogen buildup will make land infertile.
    1970: Pollution will kill all the fish.
    1970: Killer bees.
    1970: Ice age by 2000.
    1970: Water rationing in US by 1974, food rationing by 1980.
    1971: Ice age by 2020-2030.
    1972: Ice age by 2070.
    1972: Oil depleted by 1992.
    1974: Satellites say ice age coming fast.
    1974: Ozone depletion soon.
    1976: Scientific consensus says the planet is cooling and a famine is imminent.
    1978: No end in sight for the global cooling trend, we're all doomed.
    1980: Acid rain!
    1988: Regional droughts in the UK (that never happened) by 1990.
    1988: Maldives will by underwater by 2018.
    1989: Rising sea levels will destroy the US by 2000.
    1989: New York will be underwater by 2018.
    2000: Children won't know what snow is.
    2002: Famine in 10 years if we don't stop eating fish.
    2004: Britain will be Siberia by 2024.
    2005: Manhattan underwater by 2015.
    2006: Super hurricanes! (the opposite is true, they've got weaker on average)
    2008: Al Gore predicts ice caps gone by 2013.
    2009: Prince Charles says we have 96 months to save the world.
    2009: Gordon Brown says we have 50 days to save the world.
    2009: Al Gore says he was wrong by a year, it'll be 2014.
    2013: Arctic ice free by 2015.
    2014: Only 500 days before 'Climate Chaos'.
    2019: Autistic screeching sweedish children...

    And something was done in each case.
    "Nothing needs to be done, because something will be done"

    This is your actual argument. Does that really make sense in your own head?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoirAvlaa View Post
    So because climate change hasn't affected cc personally its not important because science will fix it. Meanwhile Syria is still being blown up after years of climate change caused drought made massive parts of the country infertile leading to civil war. The middle east is becoming a wasteland only saved by the massive stacks of cash being thrown into not becoming a wasteland. Indian and Chinese cities require gas masks because of the smog. The amazon is on fire. Australia is on fire. US West coast is on fire. Venice is underwater. Polar bears are starving because the ice sheets they rely on to walk to their next meal are gone.

    But hey science will solve all that before it happens, oh wait no it hasn't.

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    To be fair in the case of Venice that's just good ol' Italian corruption that led to the latest flood. They have been building a flood barrier/polder for some time now but it's been beset by delays and cost overruns. It should have been finished by now.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOSE_Project

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    Sea levels where humans lived have been rising since many many millenia. Proof? all the under water archeology. That is actually not the point, climate is swinging to more extremes. The outliers on graphs are becoming more common and so stretched.
    I am personally not convinced about the effects of co2 etc. I am convinced however that we need to start seriously stop drowning and choking ourself in our civilizations waste.
    In general this means we stop pumping so much chemicals into the atmosphere, stop drowning the sea in plastic and stop strip mining the land to name just a few.

    The vast majority focus on co2 as it is some kind of magical solution is utterly retarded. The above are way more important.
    Schopenhauer:

    All truth passes through three stages.
    First, it is ridiculed.
    Second, it is violently opposed.
    Third, it is accepted as being self-evident..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Crush View Post
    Same generation rise Germany from rubble. Now they are old and became a burden, we should put them to sleep and transform them in soylent green.

    [video=youtube;yOV8mBjHHYg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOV8mBjHHYg[/vieo]
    Yes

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    Just a quick reminder that a lot of climate change research has been undertaken and that it is pretty much unanimous in what is causing what and what needs to be done to reduce worse outcomes that those that have already been set in motion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RazoR View Post
    Candy can fuck right off as i'm celebrating new year's in a +2 freezing rain. What a tosser.

    something something climate change is not entirely human-caused blah blah
    Russia lost winter? Ooops.

    I mean it was 15+ degrees here until two weeks, but this is more or less southern Europe. (even though in my childhood temperature went to zero at start of november and stayed there until march)

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    None of these boomers, whether in the US, UK, or apparently Germany now, seem to have clearly thought through the end game of fucking up the world they are leaving to the people who are going to look after them when they have to wear adult diapers, and then insulting and making fun of those same generation of caregivers when they want to fix the negligence they have perpetrated.

    Not really the smartest generation now, are they?
    meh

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