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    Put him in the bag and just drown the lil shit.

    And then get a dog.

    Children, ugh.
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    Congrats you managed to out do both Rak and Xeno.
    This is my reaction to being bombarded with child posts on FB and my parent's nagging about having a grandson.

    World have way too many people already anyway, leave me out of it.
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    Put him in the bag and just drown the lil shit.

    And then get a dog.

    Children, ugh.
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    VENEC

    Congrats you managed to out do both Rak and Xeno.
    This is my reaction to being bombarded with child posts on FB and my parent's nagging about having a grandson.

    World have way too many people already anyway, leave me out of it.
    You can take yourself out of it.
    Why would I do that when I can annoy you with veganism?

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    Put him in the bag and just drown the lil shit.

    And then get a dog.

    Children, ugh.
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    VENEC

    Congrats you managed to out do both Rak and Xeno.
    This is my reaction to being bombarded with child posts on FB and my parent's nagging about having a grandson.

    World have way too many people already anyway, leave me out of it.
    You can take yourself out of it.
    Why would I do that when I can annoy you with veganism?
    He'll be dead from malnutrition in a few years lads.

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    All the triggered communists made people vote for Hitler

    Just like Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
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    All the triggered communists made people vote for Hitler

    Just like Trump
    Bourgeois nationalism at its finest
    As i said before, what you are asking for here over and over is basicely what the nazis were asking for (and not what the communists wanted). But unlike now people back then actually had shitty lifes and stuff like capitalism actually posed a problem to them i.e they had no food and no jobs because of the crash in america. The only difference was that the nazis also went the nationalistic way instead of the global one and they blamed the "international judaism", instead of some illuminati-esque group of captialists, for everything. And that stuff made sense to the people because unlike today where all the crap you sprout has 0 real meaning it actually mattered to the people back then.

    I mean the nazi party was as its name implied a " (national) socialist wokers party". The parole of the nazis was partly that the day of "freedom and bread" would arrive if they got voted in.


    The Bourgeoise didnt like Hitler very much at the start, but they didnt take him seriously enough to stop him.
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    The Bourgeoise didnt like Hitler very much at the start, but they didnt take him seriously enough to stop him.
    the convenient excuse; while they were actually riding his coattails in their greediness and preferred violent nationalists over ew, socialism

    "the bourgeoise" happily looked on as the left side of the reich got violently crushed because they knew it would not happen to them if they just kept quiet. and so they did. After all, the message was clear: to the victor the spoils.

    There are very good reasons why germany was/is so shame-laden. Everyone knew exactly what was going on and to happen, it wasn't as if Hitler wasn't loudly screeching about all the people he wanted to "remove" etc.

    But, as it was often said: "After '45, there suddenly werent any nazis anymore, just people who got duped by hitler"
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    Quote Originally Posted by W0lf Crendraven View Post
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    All the triggered communists made people vote for Hitler

    Just like Trump
    Bourgeois nationalism at its finest
    As i said before, what you are asking for here over and over is basicely what the nazis were asking for (and not what the communists wanted). But unlike now people back then actually had shitty lifes and stuff like capitalism actually posed a problem to them i.e they had no food and no jobs because of the crash in america. The only difference was that the nazis also went the nationalistic way instead of the global one and they blamed the "international judaism", instead of some illuminati-esque group of captialists, for everything. And that stuff made sense to the people because unlike today where all the crap you sprout has 0 real meaning it actually mattered to the people back then.

    I mean the nazi party was as its name implied a " (national) socialist wokers party". The parole of the nazis was partly that the day of "freedom and bread" would arrive if they got voted in.


    The Bourgeoise didnt like Hitler very much at the start, but they didnt take him seriously enough to stop him.
    As I said before, you're a fucking idiot who should shut up until you experience the world outside of your incredibly privileged socioeconomic bubble.

    The FHC posters didn't like W0lf very much at the start, but they didn't think his opinion important enough to block him.
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    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    The Bourgeoise didnt like Hitler very much at the start, but they didnt take him seriously enough to stop him.
    the convenient excuse; while they were actually riding his coattails in their greediness and preferred violent nationalists over ew, socialism

    "the bourgeoise" happily looked on as the left side of the reich got violently crushed because they knew it would not happen to them if they just kept quiet. and so they did. After all, the message was clear: to the victor the spoils.

    There are very good reasons why germany was/is so shame-laden. Everyone knew exactly what was going on and to happen, it wasn't as if Hitler wasn't loudly screeching about all the people he wanted to "remove" etc.

    But, as it was often said: "After '45, there suddenly werent any nazis anymore, just people who got duped by hitler"
    My point just was that the Bourgeoise didnt enable Hitler into power, that was the proles mostly. They didnt stop him and they certainly were just as in on the idea as the rest of germany post 33 but still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
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    All the triggered communists made people vote for Hitler

    Just like Trump
    Bourgeois nationalism at its finest
    As i said before, what you are asking for here over and over is basicely what the nazis were asking for (and not what the communists wanted). But unlike now people back then actually had shitty lifes and stuff like capitalism actually posed a problem to them i.e they had no food and no jobs because of the crash in america. The only difference was that the nazis also went the nationalistic way instead of the global one and they blamed the "international judaism", instead of some illuminati-esque group of captialists, for everything. And that stuff made sense to the people because unlike today where all the crap you sprout has 0 real meaning it actually mattered to the people back then.

    I mean the nazi party was as its name implied a " (national) socialist wokers party". The parole of the nazis was partly that the day of "freedom and bread" would arrive if they got voted in.


    The Bourgeoise didnt like Hitler very much at the start, but they didnt take him seriously enough to stop him.
    As I said before, you're a fucking idiot who should shut up until you experience the world outside of your incredibly privileged socioeconomic bubble.

    The FHC posters didn't like W0lf very much at the start, but they didn't think his opinion important enough to block him.
    You keep repeating the first part as if it has any meaning at all, it doesnt. My personal experience has nothing to do with the fact that no person in western/central europe actually needs communism, or would be better off with it. None of the garbage meme shit you sprout has any real meaning at all. No one wants it.

    A revolution doesnt happen if all base needs are met. And they are in the wealthy parts of europe, no matter what job or lack thereof you do have.


    You are nothing but a lazy idiot who blames his lack of success in life on some global capitalistic conspiracy to keep the little man down, you are seeking refugee in the idea of communism and thus you remove the need to actually take a look at yourself. It gives you something else to blame.

    Or you are trolling/memeing.
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    Jesus christ I thought this thread was about beating toddlers to within an inch of their lives not the politics thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Approaching Walrus View Post
    Jesus christ I thought this thread was about beating toddlers to within an inch of death not the politics thread
    Blame the people who bring the communism meme everywhere they can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W0lf Crendraven View Post
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    Jesus christ I thought this thread was about beating toddlers to within an inch of death not the politics thread
    Blame the people who bring the communism meme everywhere they can.
    That's just what someone unfairly opposed to neo-communism would say

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    The Bourgeoise didnt like Hitler very much at the start, but they didnt take him seriously enough to stop him.
    the convenient excuse; while they were actually riding his coattails in their greediness and preferred violent nationalists over ew, socialism

    "the bourgeoise" happily looked on as the left side of the reich got violently crushed because they knew it would not happen to them if they just kept quiet. and so they did. After all, the message was clear: to the victor the spoils.

    There are very good reasons why germany was/is so shame-laden. Everyone knew exactly what was going on and to happen, it wasn't as if Hitler wasn't loudly screeching about all the people he wanted to "remove" etc.

    But, as it was often said: "After '45, there suddenly werent any nazis anymore, just people who got duped by hitler"
    My point just was that the Bourgeoise didnt enable Hitler into power, that was the proles mostly. They didnt stop him and they certainly were just as in on the idea as the rest of germany post 33 but still.
    They actually pretty set the defining steps for him to acquire power over the state of germany by their very active support.

    Three days after the presidential elections, the German government banned the NSDAP paramilitaries, the SA and the SS, on the basis of the Emergency Decree for the Preservation of State Authority.[54] [55] This action was largely prompted by details that emerged at a trial of SA men for assaulting unarmed Jews in Berlin. After less than a month the law was repealed by Franz von Papen, Chancellor of Germany, on 30 May. Such ambivalence about the fate of Jews was supported by the culture of anti-Semitism that pervaded the German public at the time.

    After Chancellor Papen left office, he secretly told Hitler that he still held considerable sway with President Hindenburg and that he would make Hitler chancellor as long as he, Papen, could be the vice chancellor. Another notable event was the publication of the Industrielleneingabe, a petition signed by 22 important representatives of industry, finance and agriculture, asking Hindenburg to appoint Hitler as chancellor. Hindenburg appointed Hitler as Chancellor on 30 January 1933, in a coalition arrangement between the Nazis and the Nationalist-Conservatives. Papen was to serve as Vice-Chancellor in a majority conservative Cabinet – still falsely believing that he could "tame" Hitler.[44]

    Initially, Papen did speak out against some Nazi excesses, and later narrowly escaped death in the Night of the Long Knives, whereafter he ceased to openly criticize the regime.
    Rather, the conservatives that helped making him chancellor were convinced that they could control Hitler and "tame" the Nazi Party


    Chancellor to dictator
    Adolf Hitler addressing the Reichstag on 23 March 1933. Seeking assent to the Enabling Act, Hitler offered the possibility of friendly co-operation, promising not to threaten the Reichstag, the President, the States or the Churches if granted the emergency powers.

    Following the Reichstag fire, the Nazis began to suspend civil liberties and eliminate political opposition. The Communists were excluded from the Reichstag. At the March 1933 elections, again no single party secured a majority. Hitler required the vote of the Centre Party and Conservatives in the Reichstag to obtain the powers he desired.[61] He called on Reichstag members to vote for the Enabling Act on 24 March 1933. Hitler was granted plenary powers "temporarily" by the passage of the Act.[61]

    Employing his characteristic mix of negotiation and intimidation, Hitler offered the possibility of friendly co-operation, promising not to threaten the Reichstag, the President, the States or the Churches if granted the emergency powers. With Nazi paramilitary encircling the building, he said: "It is for you, gentlemen of the Reichstag to decide between war and peace".[61] The Centre Party, having obtained promises of non-interference in religion, joined with conservatives in voting for the Act (only the Social Democrats voted against)
    At least learn your own countrys' history. They arrogantly collaborated 100% and literally made him chancellor in their lust for power; which was more important to them than not mudering people. Quite a difference from "didn't take him seriously enough to stop him", don't you think? (rhetorical question)
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    The Bourgeoise didnt like Hitler very much at the start, but they didnt take him seriously enough to stop him.
    the convenient excuse; while they were actually riding his coattails in their greediness and preferred violent nationalists over ew, socialism

    "the bourgeoise" happily looked on as the left side of the reich got violently crushed because they knew it would not happen to them if they just kept quiet. and so they did. After all, the message was clear: to the victor the spoils.

    There are very good reasons why germany was/is so shame-laden. Everyone knew exactly what was going on and to happen, it wasn't as if Hitler wasn't loudly screeching about all the people he wanted to "remove" etc.

    But, as it was often said: "After '45, there suddenly werent any nazis anymore, just people who got duped by hitler"
    My point just was that the Bourgeoise didnt enable Hitler into power, that was the proles mostly. They didnt stop him and they certainly were just as in on the idea as the rest of germany post 33 but still.
    They actually pretty set the defining steps for him to acquire power over the state of germany by their very active support.

    Three days after the presidential elections, the German government banned the NSDAP paramilitaries, the SA and the SS, on the basis of the Emergency Decree for the Preservation of State Authority.[54] [55] This action was largely prompted by details that emerged at a trial of SA men for assaulting unarmed Jews in Berlin. After less than a month the law was repealed by Franz von Papen, Chancellor of Germany, on 30 May. Such ambivalence about the fate of Jews was supported by the culture of anti-Semitism that pervaded the German public at the time.

    After Chancellor Papen left office, he secretly told Hitler that he still held considerable sway with President Hindenburg and that he would make Hitler chancellor as long as he, Papen, could be the vice chancellor. Another notable event was the publication of the Industrielleneingabe, a petition signed by 22 important representatives of industry, finance and agriculture, asking Hindenburg to appoint Hitler as chancellor. Hindenburg appointed Hitler as Chancellor on 30 January 1933, in a coalition arrangement between the Nazis and the Nationalist-Conservatives. Papen was to serve as Vice-Chancellor in a majority conservative Cabinet – still falsely believing that he could "tame" Hitler.[44]

    Initially, Papen did speak out against some Nazi excesses, and later narrowly escaped death in the Night of the Long Knives, whereafter he ceased to openly criticize the regime.
    Rather, the conservatives that helped making him chancellor were convinced that they could control Hitler and "tame" the Nazi Party


    Chancellor to dictator
    Adolf Hitler addressing the Reichstag on 23 March 1933. Seeking assent to the Enabling Act, Hitler offered the possibility of friendly co-operation, promising not to threaten the Reichstag, the President, the States or the Churches if granted the emergency powers.

    Following the Reichstag fire, the Nazis began to suspend civil liberties and eliminate political opposition. The Communists were excluded from the Reichstag. At the March 1933 elections, again no single party secured a majority. Hitler required the vote of the Centre Party and Conservatives in the Reichstag to obtain the powers he desired.[61] He called on Reichstag members to vote for the Enabling Act on 24 March 1933. Hitler was granted plenary powers "temporarily" by the passage of the Act.[61]

    Employing his characteristic mix of negotiation and intimidation, Hitler offered the possibility of friendly co-operation, promising not to threaten the Reichstag, the President, the States or the Churches if granted the emergency powers. With Nazi paramilitary encircling the building, he said: "It is for you, gentlemen of the Reichstag to decide between war and peace".[61] The Centre Party, having obtained promises of non-interference in religion, joined with conservatives in voting for the Act (only the Social Democrats voted against)
    At least learn your own countrys' history. They arrogantly collaborated 100% and literally made him chancellor in their lust for power; which was more important to them than not mudering people. Quite a difference from "didn't take him seriously enough to stop him", don't you think? (rhetorical question)
    Maybe we meant different things, im very well aware that a bunch of rich people in their lust for power enabled hilter however the Bourgeoise itself (as in the class as a whole) wasnt the base for the nsdap, it was the proles.
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    The Bourgeoise didnt like Hitler very much at the start, but they didnt take him seriously enough to stop him.
    the convenient excuse; while they were actually riding his coattails in their greediness and preferred violent nationalists over ew, socialism

    "the bourgeoise" happily looked on as the left side of the reich got violently crushed because they knew it would not happen to them if they just kept quiet. and so they did. After all, the message was clear: to the victor the spoils.

    There are very good reasons why germany was/is so shame-laden. Everyone knew exactly what was going on and to happen, it wasn't as if Hitler wasn't loudly screeching about all the people he wanted to "remove" etc.

    But, as it was often said: "After '45, there suddenly werent any nazis anymore, just people who got duped by hitler"
    Lets not forget that a large part of the reason for the night of the long knives was because Hitler was worried about the army and capital interests not supporting him.

    Purge the party and SA of the more radical socialist elements? Capitalists, Army, and Hindencuck get what they want, Hitler prevents a possible coup by the hardliners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W0lf Crendraven View Post

    Maybe we meant different things, im very well aware that a bunch of rich people in their lust for power enabled hilter however the Bourgeoise itself (as in the class as a whole) wasnt the base for the nsdap, it was the proles.
    Ah so that's why the 'workers districts' were among those who stayed red the longest and why he took out the left side first.



    Do you see urban areas voting more for Hitler or...?
    Look at Berlin/Surroundings. Look at Hamburg, and look at the industrial (and border!) Ruhr area. Strange how all those didn't give a fuck for him. Shit, even Munich, his old powerbase, voted less for him than the rural regions.
    Literally all the (more) urban centers, except the upper northwest, gave him the finger compared to the countryside.

    Hitler was well popular under bourgeois and petit bourgeois. You are, as always, simplifying things to the point where you falsify them. His support by "the proles" as you call it _wasn't enough_, even after several elections and heavy intimidation tactics on the street. If the "normal" conservatives hadn't sold out in happy expectation of more to come for them and instead stayed true to the german state, he would have ended where he belonged: Behind bars.

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    Holy shit these fucking germans man...

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    Maybe we meant different things, im very well aware that a bunch of rich people in their lust for power enabled hilter however the Bourgeoise itself (as in the class as a whole) wasnt the base for the nsdap, it was the proles.
    Ah so that's why the 'workers districts' were among those who stayed red the longest and why he took out the left side first.



    Do you see urban areas voting more for Hitler or...?
    Look at Berlin/Surroundings. Look at Hamburg, and look at the industrial (and border!) Ruhr area. Strange how all those didn't give a fuck for him. Shit, even Munich, his old powerbase, voted less for him than the rural regions.
    Literally all the (more) urban centers, except the upper northwest, gave him the finger compared to the countryside.

    Hitler was well popular under bourgeois and petit bourgeois. You are, as always, simplifying things to the point where you falsify them. His support by "the proles" as you call it _wasn't enough_, even after several elections and heavy intimidation tactics on the street. If the "normal" conservatives hadn't sold out in happy expectation of more to come for them and instead stayed true to the german state, he would have ended where he belonged: Behind bars.

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    tl;dr: Peasants love Dictators, nbs.
    Im not disagreeing as such, but the root of the nazi party was with the workers and the poor people, they still made up the majority of his voters (back when he needed voters). Your map also really doesnt help since there is no date on that thing (or i am blind).
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    It's for the elections of 1933

    they still made up the majority of his voters (back when he needed voters
    Because the majority of people were still rather poor, even if non-manual workers (see: petit bourgeois). The "small secretary" is poor, but not a worker.

    Also, they fought a bitter and bloody societal war over the votes of the poor people, until they broke through (vote-wise) in 1933. On a side note, "the bourgeoise" was the declared enemy of both the left and the right; probably because there weren't that many bourgeois and thus everyone felt called upon

    tbh I feel like just linking Qualtingers' Herrn Karl and leaving it at that, re: (petit) bourgeois and whatnot.

    tl;dr: I'm not going to let the conservative 'bourgeois' (I hate that word more and more) off the hook that easily and put everything on "poor people"; history is not _that_ easy
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