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    [Vexor, gank2]
    Internal Force Field Array I
    Drone Damage Amplifier I
    Drone Damage Amplifier I
    Co-Processor II

    Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
    X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400
    J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

    Light Ion Blaster II, Void S
    Light Ion Blaster II, Void S
    Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
    Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
    [empty high slot]

    Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
    Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
    Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I


    Ogre II x2
    Hammerhead II x2
    Hobgoblin II x1
    Warrior II x5

    Tanks (with heat) 615 dps/735 (with blue pill). Deals (with heat/void) 599.

    So you will survive for ca. 60 seconds ( if you pulse a bit, more if you are very good at micro management) after that your weapons will burn out and your 10k ehp will not really safe you, thankfully tho this is enough to kill pretty all ruptures/thoraxes/moas with converntional fits ( provided they are dumb and stay in optimal range of you) and most frigates as well (due to light blasters/drones).

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    [PVP] Vexor

    Been pewing with this today, looks flexible (kite if solo/dangerous target, brawl if facerape-able)

    4x Heavy Electron IIs

    MWD, LSE II, Web, 24km

    DCU II, Overdrive II, 3x DDA II

    Shield rigs

    10 Mediums, 5 Lights.

    Hammerheads alone do almost 400 dps o:
    Actually an '06.

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    [Vexor, shield gank]

    Damage Control II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II

    Large Shield Extender II
    Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
    Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
    Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M

    Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
    Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
    Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


    Hammerhead II x5

    ~19.5k EHP without links

    Drones: 397dps

    349dps @ 3.38+3.13km with void (746 total), 313dps @ 2.25+6.25km with CNAM (710 total), 249 @ 6.3+8.75 with Null (646 total)


    Could also use 200mm railguns: 202dps @ 13.5+12.5 with CNAM (598 total) if you prefer. Even has room for a 20km point.
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    I am the 99.99998% Tyrus Tenebros's Avatar
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    Swap the last DDA for a DCII....
    I tried to be cool and all I got was a lousy warning about my sig being too big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrus Tenebros View Post
    Swap the last DDA for a DCII....
    Already has one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcaus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrus Tenebros View Post
    Swap the last DDA for a DCII....
    Already has one
    Phonepoasting, the words were too small to read
    I tried to be cool and all I got was a lousy warning about my sig being too big.

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    Pretty upset that I've lost my utility high tbh
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    Well, you can't have neuts anymore but the extra mid can be used for a small cap booster to replace a nosferatu's purpose.

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    Or drop a gun. Not a big issue for your overall DPS if it means that much to you
    Actually an '06.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resi View Post
    Well, you can't have neuts anymore but the extra mid can be used for a small cap booster to replace a nosferatu's purpose.
    injector isn't always as good as a nos.
    having to carry the ammo, & injector cycle time is a pretty big deal
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    Disregard caplife, apply DPS.

    [Vexor, VexorPWNIssue]
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Internal Force Field Array I

    Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
    Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
    Large Shield Extender II
    Large Shield Extender II

    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

    Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
    Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
    Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


    Ogre II x2
    Hammerhead II x2
    Hobgoblin II x1

    815 DPS before heat / implants.
    26,620 EHP before T1 BC w/ Link
    1729 M/S

    Fleet DPS ship, the upgrades increase the survivability considerably, and the DPS is enormous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrus Tenebros View Post
    Disregard caplife, apply DPS.
    The best motto.

    Though teh lack of EM resists on all your fits make me uneasy, what's your reasoning behind not fitting an anti-em rig?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warmenhoven View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrus Tenebros View Post
    Disregard caplife, apply DPS.
    The best motto.

    Though teh lack of EM resists on all your fits make me uneasy, what's your reasoning behind not fitting an anti-em rig?
    well, particularly if you take the T1 BC + link advice, the EM resist isnt THAT bad, and the additional total ehp over the em rig gives you a more comfortable buffer (since i'm assuming you wont be relying on reps anyways)

    edit: that said it comes down to personal choice, it fits fine if you're uncomfortable with the hole.
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    Optimized my semi-kite fit.

    [Vexor, Vexor - SemiKite]

    Damage Control II
    Overdrive Injector System II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II

    Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
    Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
    X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
    Warp Disruptor II

    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

    Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
    Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
    Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I


    Hammerhead II x5
    Hammerhead II x5
    Warrior II x5

    651 | 689 DPS w/ CN AM @ 2.25+6.25km (397 DPS from Hammer IIs, Warrior IIs do 201 DPS)
    600 | 630 DPS w/ Null @ 6.3+8.75km
    19.9k EHP (9.33k shield / 4.36k armor / 6.25k hull)
    1945 | 2774 m/s
    5.61s align

    I really like this ship because you have the option of kiting and still doing significant DPS, or going in and faceraping, should the occassion require it.

    For example, this kill last night. We caught him at a small FW plex (don't know why he was there). I kited with my drones while our [shield fit, no point] Daredevil held him and was repped by our Burst. Our Rupture aslo provided DPS on him. As he hit about half armor a Falcon decloaked and a Vagabond and Thorax came in to try to save him. They forced our Rupture and Stiletto off, and while focusing on the Vaga I failed and orbited out too far and he warped to sun at 10% armor. Our Stiletto caught him there and I was seconds behind, so I went balls deep, full facerape damage with my second set of Hammerheads (had to leave the other set, another plus to having 2 flights of Mediums instead of 'optimal' DPS Heavies+Meds+Light) and popped him as the Vaga and Falcon landed. The Falcon fled and I raped the Vaga too.
    Actually an '06.

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    How about the old 1600 plate, small gun Vexor, modified for the extra mid, with added web goodness?

    [Vexor, New Setup 1]
    1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
    Damage Control II
    Small Armor Repairer II
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II

    Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
    Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 400
    Warp Disruptor II
    Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

    Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
    Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
    Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
    Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

    Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
    Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
    Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


    Ogre II x2
    Hammerhead II x2
    Hobgoblin II x1
    Warrior II x5
    Hornet EC-300 x5


    Scram vs disruptor, and another EANM vs small rep vs drone damage mod to taste, obviously, but this looks great to me. The only thing that stopped the 3 mid version from killing stuff in the past was the lack of a web letting them get away before they were neuted out.

    I just hope they give the Navy Vexor the extra mid, as otherwise there is no reason to ever buy one over this T1 beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GV View Post
    I just hope they give the Navy Vexor the extra mid, as otherwise there is no reason to ever buy one over this T1 beast.
    wat.

    ehp, bandwidth, AND damage.
    without sacrificing anything.
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    EHP I'll give you. I like spare drones/alternate flights, so bandwidth doesn't help my fit, and damage goes down with bandwidth usage on it. I hear you, but for this fit, not so much.
    Last edited by GV; December 14 2012 at 01:26:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prometheus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GV View Post
    I just hope they give the Navy Vexor the extra mid, as otherwise there is no reason to ever buy one over this T1 beast.
    wat.

    ehp, bandwidth, AND damage.
    without sacrificing anything.
    But for the price that really isnt worth it, vexor gets 43k ehp, 638 dps with a free midslot to do with what i wants! VNI gets 48k ehp and 732 dps (and a medium nos) for a lot more isk.

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    and a waaay better paint job <_<
    it does seem like ccp is basically going back to how things used to be, where faction ships weren't any better than plain t1, just different.
    i'm fine with that, but would have preferred the old layouts with the modern changes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Frug View Post
    Prom is right and you're dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prometheus View Post
    it does seem like ccp is basically going back to how things used to be, where faction ships weren't any better than plain t1, just different.
    Alternatively, they just haven't yet got round to rebalancing the faction hulls.
    Let's start a party of our own

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