I know i'm kinda derailing~
How do you guys pwn (even dumb) Dramiels with a Slicer?
You obv. cant kite outside of scramrange the entire fight.
I've taken a standard dualprop dram into armor before it got into scram range, but then it was just game over for me because of MPL tracking. Is this where all the leet pilots pop standard Drop and raep?
Last edited by n0th; August 19 2011 at 08:51:49 AM.
I'm far from elite, so only time i ever got anywhere near soloing a dram in a slicer i burned straight at him from range and blipped heat at about 40k, he did the same and his speed caused him to overshoot before he could web/scram (or he did and his speed just threw him out of range) he tried to approach immediately and i got a couple more hits in as he turned running mwd and took him into low armour. on his second overheated pass he took a couple more hits and legged it.
Then again, i thought i'd caught a slicer in my dram the other day and promptly flew straight into the gate. i had to jump out as he pounded my shields from range, so if they can keep range :somehow: it's all GG.
even with skillz and heat c-type sar fit won't really tank anything, it just buys you a few seconds and lets you rep between fights.Originally Posted by Tommy Vercetti
i really like podcat's fit and the same with sar+copro instead of ODs, but take the sar fit if i'm going further from home.
Last edited by ry ry; August 19 2011 at 02:42:00 PM.
proms fit isnt something i would use against other slicers they seem to be pretty popular now. but i would use his fit if i went roaming in 0.0, repair is great.
you kidding? you would rape every other slicer, GUARANTEED
flying this at the moment. tracking seems a bit meh - hits bigger stuff but i've not had a proper dogfight with it yet.Code:[Imperial Navy Slicer, hybrid] Internal Force Field Array I Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Co-Processor II Overdrive Injector System II Gistii B-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive Faint Warp Disruptor I Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S [empty high slot] Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S Small Algid Energy Administrations Unit I Small Energy Locus Coordinator I Small Energy Metastasis Adjuster I
i like both prom's and morel's fits, but i'm also a massive cheapskate so i tried to throw together something with lick of speed and facemelt dps that didn't need anythign particularly bling to fit. upgrade either of the locus/metastasis to t2 if you like.
Last edited by ry ry; August 22 2011 at 06:59:15 PM. Reason: wrong rigs.
I just cant see the rep land akt diff when enemy slicer got better dps
The rep will save your ass when dealing with multiple targets and midwarp patch-ups
used phone when posting that , "i just cant see the rep make any diff when enemy slicer got better dps
Should I carry other crystals than multi and scorch?
No, there's no point
If you're willing to pimp a bit, Imperial Navy heat sinks frees the ship from CPU mods. You'll gain a low and a rig slot compared to Prom's fit for example.
iirc imp navy heat sinks = 2 imp navy slicers
More like 4 these days. My last couple of slicers were 14mil a pop, now its 18mil-ish i think.
IN HS does allow fitting 2 heat sinks + T2-equivalent tackle though.
I've actually played with it in EFT, but decided that my piloting is nowhere near good enough to throw additional 100mil at a paper-thin frigate for a performance increase.
[Imperial Navy Slicer, p1mp]
Heat Sink II
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Internal Force Field Array I
Co-Processor II
Overdrive Injector System II
Dread Guristas Warp Disruptor
Gistii B-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive
Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
[empty high slot]
Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
Small Energy Metastasis Adjuster II
Last edited by n0th; December 6 2011 at 03:59:32 PM.
Figured I could give the best frigate in the game thread a bump.
Here's my current amazing cheap fit:
[Imperial Navy Slicer, 2FAQ]
F-aQ Phase Code Tracking Subroutines
F-aQ Phase Code Tracking Subroutines
Heat Sink II
Co-Processor II
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Warp Disruptor II
Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
[empty high slot]
Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
Small Energy Burst Aerator I
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Stats (level 5, only implants are the 2 cheap 3% damage bonus ones; feel free to use whatever you want)
DPS: 184 @ 23 + 4km with the good tracking
EHP: 4217
Speed: 3166/4531
And it turns on a dime. Compared to other slicers the speed is lacking, but it projects high dps to a long range with pretty good tracking...and has a t2 point to keep the MWDing frigates from juking away. It also doesn't sacrifice the damage control for more speed mods.
If you really want more speed, drop the 2 FAQs for one T2 Tracking Enhancer and add an overdrive. For more sustain vs other slicers, add an adaptive nano (have not tested this, not sure what difference it would make).
If you have a bit more isk, use the slightly more expensive version (+10ish mil more)
[Imperial Navy Slicer, gist fit]
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Heat Sink II
F-aQ Phase Code Tracking Subroutines
F-aQ Phase Code Tracking Subroutines
Co-Processor II
Gistii B-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II
Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
[empty high slot]
Small Algid Energy Administrations Unit I
Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
Small Energy Burst Aerator I
Swaps the friction rig with the algid to make room for the Gist MWD. Tons more cap if you plan on taking out larger targets. For peeling off frigates from gangs and 1v1s, IMO the gist is unnecessary.
Last edited by Arcuate; May 4 2012 at 12:31:01 PM.
Where I would feel a bit fancy using them on similarly priced ships; deadspace mwd's are completely justifiable and worthwhile upgrades for this ship.
[–]bam_strokerCaldari 6 points 18 hours ago
Your command of deliberate, convincingly bad English is amazing.
Can't wait for the patch and CPU rigs. Will be interesting to see how OP these become when you can get better performance than t2 algid administration rigs.....(double HS + DCU fits ftw!) =D
The slicer seems to melt quite easily, if it suvives for any length of time it tends to win fights - with that in mind i've just bought and fitted this to test out the results.
[Imperial Navy Slicer, 200 Plate]
Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
[Empty High slot]
Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Gistii B-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive
J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I
Small Armor Repairer II
200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Tracking Enhancer II
Co-Processor II
Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
Small Ancillary Current Router I
More EHP than a ranis (5.5k), 24k opti, 100 DPS (not overheated). the range and EHP more than make up for it's lack of DPS imo. The tracking isn't amazing, but doesn't need to be as long as you swap to MF once you are scrammed.
Focus on brawling OR kiting, don't try and do both.
100 DPS is pretty lackluster and the tracking on MPLs up close (which is where you'll end up with no speed mods and a plate fitted) is pretty abysmal against AB frigates.
In his defense, AB frigates aren't really the issue. Even a terribru slicer fit like his will eat most AB frigs alive, only exceptions being boosted DDs with 20+km webs, or snaked a-type AB drams that are actually as fast as him. Dual prop ships such as ranis would be the ones to worry about.
But yeah, slicer can't brawl due to its awful tracking up close. If you wanna brawl, Retribution --> that way. Slicers really dont need much tank at all, idea is shittons of DPS at range. If you're taking damage, you're probably doingitwrong(or should easily kill ur target before u die).
Edit - And don't tell me you're gonna slingshot blah blah blah, if he falls for that it's a case of terrible piloting/not holding enough range(only ships fast enough to do that would be ones he'd melt long before even with his shitty dps, or the aforementioned ships above ^^).
Yeah I was implying that you would have problems with dual prop frigates, who would be able to close range and would beat you in a straight up brawl due to tracking.
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