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    Glorious undefeated champion and master of the dark arts of manipulation and killing razor on the first day duckslayer is unsure whether to allow this amazing but frankly life dominating game back into his, er, fold

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    Do it and deny glory to the bald one

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    i am not doing this tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by RazoR View Post
    i am not doing this tho
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    Gonna start thus tomorrow midday gmt

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    totally misse dfthis. Hows it going so far? Im all over the next one. RIP phone batteries of FHC everywhere

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    I'm getting fucked as I have no idea whats going on. Two people are dead already, 5 left.

    Why is such a simple game so battery intensive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
    I'm getting fucked as I have no idea whats going on. Two people are dead already, 5 left.

    Why is such a simple game so battery intensive
    I know right.

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    Because you keep checking it

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoirAvlaa View Post
    Because you keep checking it

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    QFT. Also I'll probably dive into the next one again, if there is one. I've been reminiscing with rose tinted glasses about the old FHC games lately.

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    Okay next game i'll bite the bullet.

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    War were declared.

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    Sad to have missed this. But not sad that I did not spend my entire Xmas and New Year playing this time intensive game!

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    It doesnt NEED to be time intensive...but somehow

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    OCD and autism

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    Fighting intensifies.


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    So what's the sitrep for the ongoing game?

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    I'm dead but still watching occasionally.

    Basically the player who got the best random specialists will almost certainly win.

    The game is kinda shallow in that there's loads of interesting and exciting strategic and tactical depth....that is all completely irrelevant compared to "who gets the most kings the earliest". The specialists are so unbalanced - there's half a dozen completely useless ones, a dozen moderate ones, and two or three that completely change the game on their own, so if you get one of those early on (or two midgame, and so on) and no-one else does, you've won.


    Kings need a massive nerf - either their 1/3 effect should be local, not global, or it should be reduced to 1/5 and only apply if a friendly specialist is involved in the combat (like the general bonus). Also they should be an upgrade to princesses not to hypnotists (which are one of the most powerful specialists in their own right). Finally Tycoon should have a downside. Loads of shitty ones need to be improved too - there are some that are only usable 2-3 times but are objectively worse than Kings/Hypnotist/Pirate/Tycoon (Saboteur looking at you) even if you could use them infinite times. Others are like shit versions of other ones (general vs king). Some are just useless outside of incredibly niche strategies that would never allow you to win (Information officer)....why??? Either the specialists should be roughly balanced, or else the chance of getting them ought to be proportionate to their strength, and each player should be taking from their own "deck" so if a guy gets a good one early on they are less likely to get another one.

    Also global effects generally need more ways to counter. Revered Elder should work on them or something.


    While there are loads of "cool" strategies and tricks you can use with loads of interesting specialists, but all of those strategies go in the bin if you could instead get a King or a Tycoon. All the complexities are just a consolation prize for people who get unlucky in the random selection of specialists. There is no reason whatsoever not to take every chance to get a King or Tycoon you possibly can.
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    Wait, what color are you?

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    that's not a sitrep

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