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    It's a shame we never got the opportunity to put the heads from podded corpses into jars for display.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    WiS was a massively wasted opportunity.
    So much so that their latest, and definitely not greatest, UI overhaul decided to force the full body avatar on the character sheet to the point where the button you would think hides said avatar instead hides all the useful info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas Quaan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    WiS was a massively wasted opportunity.
    So much so that their latest, and definitely not greatest, UI overhaul decided to force the full body avatar on the character sheet to the point where the button you would think hides said avatar instead hides all the useful info.
    Sounds like the art department's doing...
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
    Yeah, it's a shame.

    Utilizing the already existing lore and ingame items*), CCP could have created a basically 2nd kinda-independent-from-spaceship-flying MMO within EVE. And they also lost some easy measures for money sinks, e.g. casinos/gambling. And would have avoided the later scams of those oog- casino sites.

    *) e.g. the illegal drugs. I always envisioned actual in-station black market(s) for that, where you WiS char sneaks around the station in order to sell the drugs and e.g. has to avoid NPC patrols and (real player) bounty hunters.
    Talking about the latter, in order to claim the bounty for a victim, they need to visit the bounty office in the station, given the vicitim the opportunity for revenge on the way.
    What kind of pipe dream is that? WiS would be just that, bumbling around. If not it you vision a new EvE thingie when you have a new game in a station?

    Really....I remember people saying back then lets murder a pilot, lets get somebody high on x-ctinct or w/e. It was, back then, if they could make it work, just a static pole like make up of a human doing what? Really what that you could not do in game without a fascmile of a person?.

    You people dream to much.


    Also its 30k on a tuesday and 39k on a friday just the same as when i took a long as fuk break in 2010. The game is fine. RMT used to be 19-22$ per Bill back in 2007-2009 now its 6ish$ per Bill. That says something i guess.
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    I was tempted a couple of times in the past years to reinstall EVE to have a look at how much my char's wallet and assets are worth meanwhile. I really have no clue if overall prices have gone up or down. The few oog market sites I still remember (eve-central.com, eve-marketdata.com) have gone dark, eve-marketdata.com even already when I still maintained my EVEWalletAware, which I retired in 2016. And because I maintained EWA for almost ten years, I still keep its website up for sentimental reasons. I also used it as a reference when I was hunting for a new job this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacul View Post
    Also its 30k on a tuesday and 39k on a friday just the same as when i took a long as fuk break in 2010. The game is fine. RMT used to be 19-22$ per Bill back in 2007-2009 now its 6ish$ per Bill. That says something i guess.
    I play once a week ..i won half the game
    39k all of lols. It hit 39k a few times during the rona lockdowns but its back down to ~25k on fridays now. Its gone over 30k only twice since june.



    Its doing very much the opposite of fine lol. At least CCP seems to have woken up, realized they're a few years away from becoming unemployed and have started making larger changes. It remains to be seen if they can actually turn things around tho.
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    If they'd gone with an off-the-shelf engine for the initial iteration while they got the balance and some shadow of an idea of what WiS was actually supposed to be they could perhaps have pulled it off

    But... To paraphrase Ripard's excellent observation "CCP don't like the phrase 'not invented here' because they didn't invent it".

    Then again we have to remember that the part of EVE that made EVE worthwhile wasn't really a deliberate choice, it was just that they couldn't be fucked to to police it like a 'normal' MMO and had no idea how to make worthwhile PVE. So player interaction sandbox it was. CCP being shambling amateurish chucklefucks giveth, CCP being shambling amateurish chucklefucks taketh away.
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    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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    They put a lot of effort into a world class character engine and then made absolutely zero content for it, then they continued to make zero content for it.



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    They had few decent pve ideas, that they then completely abandoned and left to rot, the cosmos stuff and the epic arcs were decent ideas. But in general eve suffers from the bullying being just about the only end game content there is apart from the soulless pve grind.

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    Their 'ideas' for Incarna could be summarised as: Cocaine is fucking awesome
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    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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    Dust could have easily not sucked as well if CCP spent even half a work week thinking about faction warfare.
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Dust could have easily not sucked as well if CCP spent even half a work week thinking about fun gameplay instead of only artistic vision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
    I still find the (back then) new character creation tool of EVE introduced with the Captain's Quarter one of the best out there. Granted, I don't play too much games where this kind of char creation is a thing. But given that it has been 10 years since it was introduced (if I'm not mistaken), I can't remember a single game I played since then that has one and comes close to EVE's. In fact, I'd like to have such a tool as a stand-alone tool.
    I liked it but it wasn't without it's own amusing faults
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Spank View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
    I still find the (back then) new character creation tool of EVE introduced with the Captain's Quarter one of the best out there. Granted, I don't play too much games where this kind of char creation is a thing. But given that it has been 10 years since it was introduced (if I'm not mistaken), I can't remember a single game I played since then that has one and comes close to EVE's. In fact, I'd like to have such a tool as a stand-alone tool.
    I liked it but it wasn't without it's own amusing faults
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    Never experienced that. But then again I never had the CQ "turned on" after the one time I walked around it after its initial release. I seem to remember that it had major performance issues initially and thankfully there was a setting to turn if off. Which most players did, I suspect.

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    I used to have CQ turned on whenever I was playing simply because I enjoyed the scale feeling of seeing my character and the ship in the background
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmin View Post
    I used to have CQ turned on whenever I was playing simply because I enjoyed the scale feeling of seeing my character and the ship in the background
    Same here.

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    I probably only ever had captain's quarter turned on for about an hour in all the time I played eve
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Because WoWS held its Kings of the Sea tournament recently: is the Alliance Tournament still a thing in EVE or has CCP abandoned it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
    Because WoWS held its Kings of the Sea tournament recently: is the Alliance Tournament still a thing in EVE or has CCP abandoned it?


    https://lmgtfy.app/?q=eve+online+alliance+tournament
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruri View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
    Because WoWS held its Kings of the Sea tournament recently: is the Alliance Tournament still a thing in EVE or has CCP abandoned it?


    https://lmgtfy.app/?q=eve+online+alliance+tournament


    Many thanks, that answers my question...

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