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    Looking forward to playing this on 3840x1600 with highest settings so very much.
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    So looking to buy my self some nice things on cyber monday; currently looking at getting a snazzy new monitor. My main question at this point is if G-Sync is worth the extra spend? I found a really nice LG monitor that seems to tick all my boxes, but it is AMD freesync. The G-Sync Version of it is almost $300 more; is it really worth that?

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    I wouldn't spend $300 on G-Sync - it would make more sense to me to spend the money on a better graphics card instead if anything. Which UW are you looking at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Hustlin View Post
    So looking to buy my self some nice things on cyber monday; currently looking at getting a snazzy new monitor. My main question at this point is if G-Sync is worth the extra spend? I found a really nice LG monitor that seems to tick all my boxes, but it is AMD freesync. The G-Sync Version of it is almost $300 more; is it really worth that?
    The two technologies are virtually identical in practice. The real difference is if you're pairing it with an Nvidia (G-Sync) or AMD (Freesync) card. The $300 is Nvidia-tax.

    That said, it's hard to find a bad G-Sync monitor and it's a lot easier to find a bad Freesync monitor, so do your research if you're leading towards the AMD/Freesync camp.

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    Well the way I am looking at is that either tech is really only useful if you're dropping frames right? I will be pairing this with some beefy hardware, i7 7800x and a 1080ti, So I really shouldnt have frame rate issues to begin with so I am questioning whether G-sync would be of any use at all for that $300 premium. The monitor only comes two flavors of Free Sync G Sync so I might as well get the cheaper one right?

    Quote Originally Posted by GeromeDoutrande View Post
    I wouldn't spend $300 on G-Sync - it would make more sense to me to spend the money on a better graphics card instead if anything. Which UW are you looking at?
    LG 34UC79G-B 34" 21:9 UltraWide IPS Curved Gaming Monitor 2560 x 1080 (2K) Resolution, AMD FreeSync, 144 Hz Refresh Rate, Dynam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Hustlin View Post
    Well the way I am looking at is that either tech is really only useful if you're dropping frames right? I will be pairing this with some beefy hardware, i7 7800x and a 1080ti, So I really shouldnt have frame rate issues to begin with so I am questioning whether G-sync would be of any use at all for that $300 premium. The monitor only comes two flavors of Free Sync G Sync so I might as well get the cheaper one right?

    Quote Originally Posted by GeromeDoutrande View Post
    I wouldn't spend $300 on G-Sync - it would make more sense to me to spend the money on a better graphics card instead if anything. Which UW are you looking at?
    LG 34UC79G-B 34" 21:9 UltraWide IPS Curved Gaming Monitor 2560 x 1080 (2K) Resolution, AMD FreeSync, 144 Hz Refresh Rate, Dynam
    2560 x 1080 resolution on that LG screen make it terrible.
    Got 1440p on such a big monitor, you won't regret it.

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    I'd imagine you'll pretty consistently max out the frame rate with your card on that resolution, so I would agree with your view on G-Sync.

    Is there a particular reason for going with a low resolution display (other than display price)? I have an UW with 3440 x 1440, and for me the many dots are a large part of the appeal.

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    Price point is certainly one consideration, but I would really like a 21:9 screen; which afaik don't come in 2560x1440 (new egg shows only 1) and high refresh rate. Bumping to 3440x1440 is a significant price jump for even 60hz screens, and just a complete no go for 100/120hz.


    That LG screen seemed to be a pretty good compromise of everything I was looking for, But if you have any suggestions around the $500 mark I am all ears.

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    This is the display that I have (and I would recommend it to others) for $700:
    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16824022484

    Different people obviously have different types of priorities; the LG certainly seems serviceable (obviously see whether there are reviews for the thing etc).

    edit: just to note that 2560x1440 is not a 21:9 resolution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeromeDoutrande View Post
    This is the display that I have (and I would recommend it to others) for $700:
    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16824022484

    Different people obviously have different types of priorities; the LG certainly seems serviceable (obviously see whether there are reviews for the thing etc).

    edit: just to note that 2560x1440 is not a 21:9 resolution.
    Hmm that is nice I could probably swing for that. Granted I am planing to do all my ordering on black friday/cyber monday so I should be able to pinch a bit here and there if that monitor or something similar isnt on sale

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeromeDoutrande View Post
    I'd imagine you'll pretty consistently max out the frame rate with your card on that resolution, so I would agree with your view on G-Sync.

    Is there a particular reason for going with a low resolution display (other than display price)? I have an UW with 3440 x 1440, and for me the many dots are a large part of the appeal.
    Don't be a half ass, if you are going for premium screen gotta pick from the top shelf.
    3440x1440 or nothing. 100hz makes an awful lot of difference too.

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    3440 x 1600 and 3840 x 1600 exist also, if you are not a scrub.

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    I have the scrub 4K (3440x1440) and it's nice. Not used for anything but code editing though, got an old-school 2650x1600 at home for gaming.

    "Gaming" at 60 FPS though, and massive IPS input lag. Not a big deal for me. I can't be bothered to replace a $1K monitor TBH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Hustlin View Post
    Well the way I am looking at is that either tech is really only useful if you're dropping frames right?
    No, the tech is useful whenever the FPS your GPU produces and the Hz your monitor runs at aren't perfectly synced up, which is basically all the time.

    You get tearing whenever your fps is different from your monitor refresh rate, regardless of whether you're under or over it. There are tons of ways of dealing with that (v-sync, double/triple buffering, adaptive sync, etc) but all of them add some amount of lag and have other drawbacks like only being able to run at 1/1 or 1/2 or 1/3 etc of your refresh rate with v-sync.

    G-sync/freesync circumvent this entirely by just slaving your monitor to display the actual frames coming from your GPU and displaying them as soon as they're ready, reducing lag in the process. This also fixes the vast majority of stuttering issues you get with normal monitors.

    With G-sync/freesync you'll want to limit the framerate of your games to just below the maximum framerate your monitor can keep up with, as the syncing tech will disable if the GPU produces more frames than the monitor can keep up with, leading to tearing again. The most important spec of a syncing monitor is the range at which it can keep syncing. Both the minimum and the maximum framerate are important, and there are monitors out there that have a lower max syncing framerate than what the panel can display (144Hz monitor only having a 30-90 fps syncing range for example), which isn't what you want. And you want the minimum to be as low as possible so that the game can remain fluid during big fps drops (loading stuff, network, etc). In the Freesync case you want your max fps to be at least 2.5x your min fps, so that it can do some magic (doubling/tripling/etc frames) to remain fluid below it's min fps. Not sure if G-sync has a similar requirement or if all G-sync monitors automatically meet this requirement.

    Honestly you have to properly experience it to believe it, it's silly how much more fluid it is than old-fashioned monitors without it.

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    So took the leap and got a PG279Q from Asus and I have to say I see fuckall difference in gaming from the old U2312HM at any hyper refresh rate of 100-165Hz. It may have something to do with the ridiculous low input lag that these old timers have (lol). Happy af with the extra screen estate and the fact that I can use one of the Dells in portrait mode for more productivity related stuffs :3

    It also has stunning colours out of the box but has a retarded brightness setup at 80%, so had to tone it down to 15%. Then upped it to 20% where I left it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aea View Post
    I have the scrub 4K (3440x1440) and it's nice. Not used for anything but code editing though, got an old-school 2650x1600 at home for gaming.

    "Gaming" at 60 FPS though, and massive IPS input lag. Not a big deal for me. I can't be bothered to replace a $1K monitor TBH.
    I would not link input lag to IPS screens, see above why. I would also not buy a freaking curved screen if my life depended on it. They distort stuff and they're really all not that much useful in the first place. But ymmv, they look stunning tbqf, albeit if you photo edit you may end up with weird surprises.
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    It's not like you lot even play games where input lag matters much anyway last I checked so it's more or less a non issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    It's not like you lot even play games where input lag matters much anyway last I checked so it's more or less a non issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmin View Post
    So took the leap and got a PG279Q from Asus and I have to say I see fuckall difference in gaming from the old U2312HM at any hyper refresh rate of 100-165Hz. It may have something to do with the ridiculous low input lag that these old timers have (lol). Happy af with the extra screen estate and the fact that I can use one of the Dells in portrait mode for more productivity related stuffs :3
    High refresh rates are very subjective, yeah. I can tell the difference between 60Hz and 144Hz, but it's pretty minor and not something I'd spend money to get. Plus, the pixel response times on even the fastest IPS or VA panels mean high refresh rates tend not to be that amazing for gaming unless the monitor also has a strobing backlight or black frame insertion system.

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    It does have strobing backlight according to tftcentral, however you can use it only with gsync off and at 85, 100 and 120Hz refresh - they call it ULMB.

    So I'm not sure. I'll try it, although I haven't noticed any blur at all.


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    I was all set to get an Ultra wide and new GPU but ended up just getting a 2560 x 1440 31.5" screen, got a great boost in screen width and surprisingly my GTX970 has barely noticed.
    As a cheap alternative upgrade option to an Ultra wide (screen was only 220) especially from 1080p 24" I could not recommend it more.

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