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    The number of dreads ruined the fight for everyone really

    Not becouse they did any massive damage, sure they knocked out the snuff and x13 triage and killed most of the friendly dreads, but they could not touch subcaps and they would have died or been forced off-field by our t3's/bs eventually
    The reason the dreads ruined the fight is becouse they forced a escalation that kept both of us from having a chance at actually killing the other by attracting way to large hostile blobs

    NC. showed up with something close to 30 artylokis and 20 motherships, none of us involved have enough numbers available to fight a blob that size in lowsec, when you get into those numbers you end up vollying things to rapidly to counter it with anything but a similar sized fleet
    Honestly, with the amount of caps we where playing around with it was bound to happen, and i'm sure it was as little of a surprise to you guys as it was to us
    It's just a shame we could not keep up the quite excellent brawl that the subcap part of the fight had the potential to be

    I also understand why shadowfed felt they had to bring in those caps as well, we have decimated them every time we do a subcap engagement and large numbers of dreads and carriers is the only thing you guys could do to counter that inability to take us on with reasonably equal number of subcap hulls

    Hopefully next time we can keep the caps indoor and just shoot it out in the streets, that way we could focus on the important bits of murdering one another rather then trying to figure out who has the bigger batphone

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    Well, I really don't want to get in to a CAOD match by any means, but some statements do need to be debated or people will belive them :

    - Killing us in any fight without caps on field : last time we did have a fight with no caps on field was us in BS vs you in your trademark T3s/Absos, both sides with Guardians, and about similar numbers. We killed 4 ships, you couldn;t break our reps, so you disengaged and we held the field :

    http://www.sotfkb.com/index.php/kill_related/613825/

    - Us beeing the ones that have no solution other than blobbing with caps . Both fights last week were you bringing a superior number of both dreads and carriers and of course as a result, winning. We did congratulate you on both making good use of dreads and creative use of blackops when having no titan on.

    http://www.sotfkb.com/index.php/kill_related/626364/

    http://www.sotfkb.com/index.php/kill_related/626328/

    That brings us to last night, where we saw russian supers logging in, muppets scouting the area so we figured it's either having a surprise of our own or repeating last week's scenario where you deployed at least twice more caps than we did. In the end, seeing what you had in standby, was a really wise choice on our part. Also it's hard to take your statement about wanting subcap fights seriously, when last night we weren't even out of warp when you lit the first cyno and brought in 2 archons. So all in all, you won last week, we won this one, you'll prolly win again next week, be a good sport about it and let's not CAOD this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lock out View Post
    Well, I really don't want to get in to a CAOD match by any means, but some statements do need to be debated or people will belive them :
    Fair enough, the truth comes down to perspective anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by Lock out View Post
    - Killing us in any fight without caps on field : last time we did have a fight with no caps on field was us in BS vs you in your trademark T3s/Absos, both sides with Guardians, and about similar numbers. We killed 4 ships, you couldn;t break our reps, so you disengaged and we held the field :
    Pretty sure i remember that fight, you were heavy on bs with neuts and had quite a lot of logis, almost one on field for every two of us on grid as far as I remember?

    I also remember us re-shipping to battleships and coming back to fight you after deagressing against something we obviously could not break


    Quote Originally Posted by Lock out View Post
    - Us beeing the ones that have no solution other than blobbing with caps . Both fights last week were you bringing a superior number of both dreads and carriers and of course as a result, winning. We did congratulate you on both making good use of dreads and creative use of blackops when having no titan on.
    During that first fight we did not lose anyone, so there is no reliable way of telling who was there and who was not in how big bumbers
    However, the numbers were pretty close, we had something like 10 or so more in sub-bs for support then you did, and they were not what won us the fight, it was the fact that over half of your battleships that we killed had no guns fitted

    As far as caps go, you had a archon and a moros on grid in that thing, we had two archons and three dreads, not entirely sure that qualifies as cap-blobbing when you outnumber us as far as battleships go and have over-the-top neuting power available

    Second fight you posted involved you dropping archons to save a tackled navyphoon from what I’ve been told, you tried dropping caps on something and that bit you in the ass quite badly, have to concede that we did indeed use capitals to destroy the caps you cynoed in to save your dudes but that’s hardly “pulling first” so to speak

    Quote Originally Posted by Lock out View Post
    That brings us to last night, where we saw russian supers logging in, muppets scouting the area so we figured it's either having a surprise of our own or repeating last week's scenario where you deployed at least twice more caps than we did.
    So you are justifying getting 35 capitals ready to be dropped on grid by having your own caps outnumberd by two in a previous fight, fair enough! And yeah, i'm pretty sure both of us knew the other was going to escalate, i would have liked keeping it local but then again i am not a clever pony in charge of things

    Quote Originally Posted by Lock out View Post
    In the end, seeing what you had in standby, was a really wise choice on our part. Also it's hard to take your statement about wanting subcap fights seriously, when last night we weren't even out of warp when you lit the first cyno and brought in 2 archons
    Yeah, those archons did get you to show what you had on hand quite nicely


    In the end, had you gone with battleships and guards over capitals you would have lost less caps of your own and had a better chance of killing a relevant number of us
    Instead, both of us fielded the heavy caps and none of us held the field, even if we did grab a few shiny things in front of your noses once the dust had settled

    Anyway, let's do it again!

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    I'll leave it to someone else to write a BR for this one, but we killed an Ethereal Dawn Aeon today. With proper bumping a second super should've died too, but I guess bumping is hard or something.

    http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13294893

    I guess it's also worth mentioning that the fully faction fit deathstar (which they lost) was worth about 6.5 bil.

    The Aeon had time to self destruct but didn't, so props to him.
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    On Friday night FEARLESSdot and Psychotic Tendancies RF'd a moon belonging to Ethereal Dawn in Central Point in the hope of getting ~goodfites~. A very beefy faction fit deathstar worth ~6 bil was bound to generate a response.
    The out timer was around 18:00 Eve time today, pretty much a good timer for everyone so happy days.

    This afternoon I recieved some int that they were calling a CTA and would likely be rolling with Pantheon Carriers and 'support'. I also anticipated having to deal with MILFs as the tower belonged to the corp with all of ED's known super pilots in.

    Realising we probably couldn't deal with all that on our own we contacted Wolfsbrigade and Rooks and Kings.

    The plan was such:

    FEARLESSdot and Psychotic would form in BS with Triage and Dreads in reserve and hold several jumps out just off the pipe with the intention of intercepting the hostile support fleet and forcing a fight away with a POS.

    If ED bypassed us by means of a bridge RnK would bridge onto them with BS and Triage to force an escalation, with Wolfsbrigade in Pantheon carriers in reserve and the rest of us making best speed.

    Just before the tower came out of RF a locator on one of the ED super pilots put him in Metropolis. At this point we realised we only had three HICs so desperately tried to stuff some in our Triage carriers still parked in our staging system and bridge a few closer.

    Waiting ensued and about ten minutes after the tower came out things started hotting up. An ED cyno went up and five carriers jumped in. RnK immediately responded with their merry band. ED bridged through their support fleet and additional caps taking them to 12 carriers and 4 MILFs. Support started burning and Wolfs jumped in their pantheon carriers. Unfortunately due to problems with cyno placement they landed out of rep range of the RnK triage who skillfully managed to tank the DPS long enough to exit triage but unfortunately fell soon after.

    At this point the combined HLMAR and TISHU support fleet landed and started spreading super points and applying additional DPS to the hostile carriers. Noticing that three of the supers were very close to the shield I ordered everyone to concentrate on bumping an Aeon who was around 10k off and a Nyx who was a possible but ultimately managed to get inside the shields partly due to some bad bumps. We drove the regular carriers inside the POS killing two and missing out on a Chimera who squeezed in at 20% hull and then concentrated on the Aeon, jumping in some dreads to speed up the process. Hostile support, consisting of a motley crew of drakes, close range armour tier 3s and BS, warped in on us at zero several times, to what end, I don't know.

    He went down in due course and the hostile caps jumped out from the POS which was now receiving our full attention. A fully faction fit deathstar is not something I enjoy going up against and we very nearly lost a dread to it's manned guns who, fortunately, managed to coast out of his cycle. The tower popped and the slaughter of the gunner alts commenced.

    All in all a fun little fight. Perhaps a little too one sided but we were expecting a bigger showing from ED who have recently become active again and begun expanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larkonis Trassler View Post
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    Rumor has it that the Aeon that was killed was their alliance leader's, and that he was raging and kicking people from comms after it died :P

    It's worth noting that he has also lost two Avatars in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RainbowsEverywhere View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Larkonis Trassler View Post
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    Rumor has it that the Aeon that was killed was their alliance leader's, and that he was raging and kicking people from comms after it died :P

    It's worth noting that he has also lost two Avatars in the past.
    I, too, heard this. I was also told that he ran back to Solar asking for help to re take the moon and promptly told 'nope'.

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    Must have been his 'personal' pos or something

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    Here are some report form BALEX

    Few night ago we saw a POS timer running out. Mail was send and we got prepared. We sent some 20-25 T3 strong fleet for that POS where around 25-30 Gunpoint diplomacy + friends in a BS fleet were w8ting for us. We landed on em and the fight started. Their E war was impeccable and they also managed to take out our falcons. So shortly after the fight began we saw that we didnt stand a chance in that fight and bailed out. After getting home we reshiped in BSs also and went for em , but apparently they had it enough. The results are here http://www.balex.info/index.php/kill_related/29895/ Probs to Gunpoint for some nice tactics and a GF.

    The day after was an interesting day. We started the day ganking Hulks in a nearby HS system to lessen the pain form the night before. Night came and standard EVE circle began. Gate camping, blobbing ppl, getting hot dropped, usual EVE stuff. When suddenly some 35-40 mixed armor/shield BC fleet reported. We piled up 30 man fleet, mainly T3 + some BC and BS and went after em. They decided they wanted to take a chance and w8ted for us on the gate. With no hasitation we jumped in and the fight started. Not much tactics was needed, just some good FC calls and fast broadcasting, because they were melting pretty fast. The results http://www.balex.info/index.php/kill_related/29947/ GF and GJ for taking the fight.

    Last night we had some nice 15v15 fights. I really enjoy those kind of battles. Lot of tactical choices, moving on battlefield etc. http://www.balex.info/index.php/kill_related/29970/ there are the results. That battle report is from 2 fights where the guys reshiped and tried again after loosing the first fight. GF reallly

    Thats everything from me for now
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    Hi Zloco,

    Yeah, that battle on the gate didn't work out so well

    I appreciate you referring to that as wanting to take a chance rather than just being idiot dumb to take on lasers and T2/3 resists in shield hulls. In the end we knew it was a bit silly but it was one of those, "we've gone out this far, going home without a fight would be sad...and maybe we'll get a break" moments. So not exactly smart, but the entertaining option.

    Things picked up a little later on after a bit of a reship. Although we just missed a battle in Ardar, we bumped in to a smaller fleet of Heretics that we thought chose to jump into us to take the fight. The battle report is a bit overly lop-sided as some hulls wisely bailed. I think there was a Deimos and a few more BCs but it was a few days ago now. gf for taking that fight, too.

    http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13315535

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    Someone got a better BR than this for what just happened? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13352909
    http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13351841 perhaps?

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    For once, Kugu delivers low-sec action. Whowouldathunk?

    A new conflict started while we were all blinded by the Kugu black out, and since most of the threads are regionally based, we'll move this one here, I'm sure theres much shit posting to be done and it needs a home.


    So for the back story, TEST and PL have deployed to Delve, nulli may be full of some of the worst posters known to man, but they like to fight so theres something for everybody to do. The fights have been pitched, some days Nulli go home the victor, sometimes the Honeybadgers get up in that ass, sometimes, both happen. Needless to say, one day, I get a message from inside Nulli, citing Progod in FCchat:

    progodlegend > I know іt sucks, but right now its better to just wаit a day or two till PL leaveѕ, even though we could try to do stuff now
    progodlegend > or at least wait till tomorrow
    progodlegend > its a lot less effort, and it makes more timers for PL up north


    What would draw us from our goodfights one might ask, well, turns out, -A- had a grander plan to relive pressure from Nulli in Delve and give them some breathing room. Last Saturday, the war dec from AAA went live on PL, as the combined mass of -A- moved north on a deployment. Their goal was simple, hit PL tech and ONLY PL tech, 400 strong, dreads and supers in tow, they moved into Okagiaken (or however you spell that shit hole).

    Now, up till now, sides have been drawn around the north, NCdot, do not get on well with the CFC, they're openly hostile, and on most days that end in Y, the CFC in general doesn't like PL either, but we do have one thing in common -

    We hate poor people.

    We hate poor people trying to make rich people poor even more.


    So Mittani called his secret op, NCdot quietly formed, and TEST and PL hunkered down to try and bait out the heavy guns of AAA in the area. The problem was its kinda hard to hide the 700 goons that showed up to hang out with Mittens. Maka still engaged us with nearly 200 strong in his fleet vs our 50 slowcats and 5 triage carriers, PL cycling triage carriers from tank to rep constantly as Maka poked our carriers looking for the soft one. He picked Seleene, 30 seconds into his triage cycle. To the credit of that chimera, it tanked hard as balls for four solid minutes, soaking damage like a champ, and as it dropped out, the first reps to cycle on it were slowcat armor reps, too late, it died literally as the reps started to cycle. In the mean time TEST valiantly dropped their "suicide triage" on a second tower we had next door, and stealth repped it like boss motherfuckers.

    Orbiting in 100mn tengus 130km from the carrier blob, Maka issued cat calls about PL's new place in the CFC, and asked us about the 500 goons on a titan, but the towers were saved, and a fairly impressive show of force from the OTEC members was issued as challenge to -A-'s newly forming bloc.

    After a mid week tower save in the bowels of Period Basis for a Nulli CSAA, where the fledgling block fielded some 600 ships that featured a dizzying array of alliances, -A-'s block felt that it was a good time to hit a few more towers.

    They selected 2 near their staging systems, and Solar would make a play for a moon they've been pecking at for weeks, using quick hit US tz fleets to punch bother towers and the Goons jb in W-4, then jumping home and quickly standing down the dreads before response fleets could mobilize.


    Today dawned with the Korasen moon coming out for PL mid day, it would be a brawl, early enough for most euros and US players to attend. Local would break 1000, TiDi would stay locked at 10% for nearly 2 hours.

    One hour before the op I began making contact with the different available FC's, gathering test and doubling up the entire cyno route (which we still missed one of). The Slow cat fleet swelled to need a 3rd wing, and at that point i knew shit would die. Villy had a fairly large fleet massing, Vince hit me up with about 15 minutes left, and scouts from 30 sources were tracking 4 separate fleets in the area. The original plan I had involved sending only a few in, but AAA showed up on the tower while it still had about 10 minutes left, so full slow cat force it was, if Maka wanted to use dreads, I would give him something to shoot.


    Slow Cat fleets are eerily quiet, there is no target calling, there isn't much speech at all, just scouts reporting fleet movements and people asking for reps that are too stupid to broadcast. The fleets started piling up, 200+ AAA, 130+ Solar, 60+ Gypsies on field vs 100ish Slow Cats. The Triage carriers were the first to fracture under the punishment. Erfurt, who's carrier hails from the days of D2 (five years old) died shockingly fast, there was no chance to roll him out of triage, next a TEST carrier, then another triage. My exact words to Villy were "We're losing triage carriers shockingly fast".

    Evidently that pissed my fleet off, as not another carrier died. We were able to hold the 4th primary as TiDi wound itself up to 10% and pegged out from the influx of Goons, at the same time the Cyno went up for NCdot.

    Then everything stopped.


    So god damn slow, locking from a cruiser was taking on average 30 seconds or more, as local broke 1000. What proceeded was a game of cat and mouse where the Southern Bloc fleets danced around on grid through 10% TiDi and killed what the could, anything coming within range of the Slow Cat phalanx of 0wn would get decimated (3 volleying Maels under scimmie reps whats up) until after an hour, the Southern Bloc broke and abandoned the field.

    Through it all the triage carriers had only managed to pull the tower up 12% due to Tidi, but the field was ours.


    Vince chased -A-, who slipped out of his grasp due to Low Suck, and instead ended up engaging Goons after the Tech tower was done, comfortably proving that we don't have to like each other to want you to stay poor.



    With no end in sight of the Southern Block drive on the tech moons of PL, and the solidification of said block into a fighting force, the coming weeks may see a sharp escalation in festivities.
    That's Grath from PL's report here.

    Really shows what a shabby state null-sec is in. The entire north will blue up on a dime to defend tech, and the game's other big coalition can't even touch them.
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    Kugus back up? oh well

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    TBH the NC never left, a few of the alliances just got kicked out and replaced, the idea never changed. The great blue ocean still exists.

    Most notably, MH, MM and some of the backwater scub ones, RZR, goons, test, still exist and live int he same regions with (mostly) the same neighbours.

    The only difference now is that goons and test have the space closer to empire and the renters live further back.

    The moon goo changes can't come soon enough. Rolling all the tech in the north and then requiring it for building nearly all the T2 kit in the game, stinks of some extra hands in CCPs decisions.
    Much like the old BoB and the reason for the creation of the CSM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Marram View Post
    TBH the NC never left, a few of the alliances just got kicked out and replaced, the idea never changed. The great blue ocean still exists.

    Most notably, MH, MM and some of the backwater scub ones, RZR, goons, test, still exist and live int he same regions with (mostly) the same neighbours.

    The only difference now is that goons and test have the space closer to empire and the renters live further back.

    The moon goo changes can't come soon enough. Rolling all the tech in the north and then requiring it for building nearly all the T2 kit in the game, stinks of some extra hands in CCPs decisions.
    Much like the old BoB and the reason for the creation of the CSM.

    It wasn't going to be tech, but larkonis' antics forced CCP's hand

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    bullshit, ccp could do what ever they wanted regardless of what larks shenningans were.


    

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    What was going on in enaluri last night? We were tracking local at 70+ and getting grumpy we were bopsing instead of doing a proper fleet but then we got a nice Mach kill so it wasn't so bad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by W0wbagger View Post
    What was going on in enaluri last night? We were tracking local at 70+ and getting grumpy we were bopsing instead of doing a proper fleet but then we got a nice Mach kill so it wasn't so bad...
    http://tuskers.killmail.org/?a=kill_...ll_id=13364109

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    Hello fellow low sec inhabitants. Here i am again to report a nice fight we had.

    Well, as usually we started logging on. Logged scouts, spread em around. And we found a fleet of 15-20, mainly drakes and scimis. We sent a bait and prepared a drop around 20 ppl T3 + guardians and few Bss. Our scout jumping in the system near found another, a 2nd fleet of 30+ ppl BC heavy, 5 scimis + huginn and lachesis and some tacklers sitting on the gate. We decided to drop the 2nd group. Well we failed at it and results were http://www.balex.info/index.php/kill_related/30060/ our bait died before the guardians succeeded to put reps on him.

    We than regrouped and approached the gate thinking what to do next, when suddenly the group we dropped warped back on the gate. They started jumping and we jumped after em. The situations was like this. 20 Balex and 30+ The Unthikables were sitting on the gate calling primaries and the other group of some 15-20 long range started pounding on us too. Fight was really fun and ended, efficiency wise, none took the victory, but we (BALEX) kept the ground looted and salvaged everything. Here are the results http://www.balex.info/index.php/kill_related/30082/.

    GF ppl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Marram View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by W0wbagger View Post
    What was going on in enaluri last night? We were tracking local at 70+ and getting grumpy we were bopsing instead of doing a proper fleet but then we got a nice Mach kill so it wasn't so bad...
    http://tuskers.killmail.org/?a=kill_...ll_id=13364109

    Dat Mach.
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