Loss of Faith

[Cydo]

Are you a bittervet if you still hold your account or not ?

[Rudolf Miller]

ccp gives me the pain of the dumb

:sad bittervet panda:

[Cydo]

fair point that, SHC/FHC then.

proper bittervets have more SHC than FHC posts at this stage tho.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:NbvK4UA6b1QJ:scrapheap-challenge.com/profile.php%3Fmode%3Dviewprofile%26u%3D8682%26sid% 3Da91601066fd7a96d53b68cc1ce69f389+scrapheap+chall enge+cydo&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&source=www.goog le.co.uk

858 posts, spent far too much time there.

[thebomby]

Talk about loss of faith, I tell you what gives me faith: This community. In spite of CDong killing SHC, the majority of you crusty old bittervets are here on the successor forums less that 24 hours later, (un)happily bittervetting away with one another. It almost makes me feel warm and fuzzy.

P.S. a BIG thank you to Entrox and Sofia for getting this running. Having to post on Kockupsemen would have killed it for me.

P.P.S. Someone tell Malcanis as I think he's still busy fudging on Kugu.

P.P.P.S. Entrox, if you need some cash for the upkeep, let me know.

[Liare]

Talk about loss of faith, I tell you what gives me faith: This community. In spite of CDong killing SHC, the majority of you crusty old bittervets are here on the successor forums less that 24 hours later, (un)happily bittervetting away with one another. It almost makes me feel warm and fuzzy.

P.S. a BIG thank you to Entrox and Sofia for getting this running. Having to post on Kockupsemen would have killed it for me.

P.P.S. Someone tell Malcanis as I think he's still busy fudging on Kugu.

P.P.P.S. Entrox, if you need some cash for the upkeep, let me know.

yea what booby, ehrm bomby said here.

this is pretty much the only place i bother to frequent any more mostly because despite all the :bittervet: and :shitposting: people are not pants-on-head retards (all right some are, but that's just so we have somebody to laugh at)

so yea,

[evil edna]

you arnt a full bittervet until you sell your main but still keep shitposting about eve

i started eve in january 04 and played until 09 sometime and then was inactive for ages before selling up. saw alooooot of dumb shit moves from ccp in that time to be honest most of it wouldnt matter enough to stop me playing if it wasnt for the fact they steadily changed the game into something that really wasnt any fun in a chase for subscriber numbers. the community is great, well its mostly aspie cunts who take the whole thing too fucking seriously, but there were (maybe still are) some awesome people playing, but after a while that isnt enough to override the shitness the game has become.

i think ccp has gone too far down this road to crap to come back from now. obviously its possible, but i just cant see it. would take a rather seismic shift that i doubt they have the gumption for.

/wrists

[EntroX]

what the fuck.

tl;dr?

[hunter V]

3rd time ive quit.....

and here I am :/

[Liare]

what the fuck.

tl;dr?

just a bunch of clearly masculine men getting all teary eyed and such.

[Sponk]

http://omgrawr.net/quote/12259

[Evelgrivion]

This one is dedicated to all of you bittervets out there!

[Booley]

what the fuck.

tl;dr?

:ccp:

[Marlona Sky]

What sucks is when you hit that point where you finally realize that the game you fell in love with, has gone so far from the path that you know it will never be able to return.

Then, you archive bittervet status.

[pesadelo]

Well i play from 2004 , and i think that after you did something for so long you get nostalgic and pissed at some changes and the inability (apparent)of CCP to deal with some problems.The sence of wonder we always get in the first years can´t stay forever, now i think i enjoy the game more not because i login to play the game but i login to play with some eve pals i got over the eyers and for that alone eve rules.

[Marko Riva]

I've quit EVE many times, restarted many times and deleted several times. I quit playing around October last year, decided to never come back to EVE and to make sure of that I sold my chars.... guess what. Caved in short while ago and started a new char but meh, it sucks. 2 days ago I contacted my old character to see if I could buy it back (it had been traded again in the mean time), guy was friendly and it turned out he had used the char to grind sanctums in RZR space and had trained for... Minnie carrier

So uhm yeah, not sure if you can be bittervet if you care enough to put in effort to get your old char back.

[Kanv]

I realised before 1.4 that i was only logging in to change skills and not even trolling eve-o anymore so I cancelled my sub before learning about the latest screw up. Good thing too.

At least I got a final troll/flame in beforehand.





Does web team == Team Awesome == Getting Development focus for the next year?

[Helicity]

The degree to which this last fiasco has eroded my will to play is staggering.
I'm no longer sure I want to put effort into blogging about this game, I'm no longer sure I want to put in months of effort to organize one of (if not the) biggest player run events in MMO land twice a year.

This is all so very fucked, I want to love this game and company so much, but they are making it so very very hard to do.

[TeaDaze]

The degree to which this last fiasco has eroded my will to play is staggering.
I'm no longer sure I want to put effort into blogging about this game, I'm no longer sure I want to put in months of effort to organize one of (if not the) biggest player run events in MMO land twice a year.

This is all so very fucked, I want to love this game and company so much, but they are making it so very very hard to do.

What kills any faith I have is that as usual nobody will be held accountable (doesn't mean firing, but without accountability nobody will learn that rushing out buggy shite or not doing basic industry best practice is bad). Even worse is that many of the team involved aren't even in the office today (for a number of reasons, but not because of accountability). Other people at CCP are utterly pissed at this fuck up because it all reflects on them too. Most people still believed the forums were built from the ground up because that was the message webcell were selling internally too. Perception is reality

Peer review only works if the peers you pick have the correct skills. If I build a car and ask my peers of other non-engineers to review it we'll likely end up in a wreck

[Marko Riva]

Does web team == Team Awesome == Getting Development focus for the next year?

I got the impression that the web cell was for the most part the collection bin for a lot of developers who some at CCP find 'funny' and would like to keep employed, but weren't really good enough to cut it for the other, you know, proper teams. So yes, I suspect we're deep in Team Awesome territory with these guys.

Exactly this.

[Navigator Six]

From my perspective one of the main reasons why many people (myself included) push for improvements in small-gang warfare is precisely because we've scaled down what we want to get out of EVE to the level where we can actually try to control the entire experience ourselves. EVE still has a lot of solid core mechanics, and despite the many screwups from CCP the game can still be great fun when things go right.