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    [PVP] Omen

    No omen thread makes me sad. It is a piece of crap though:

    [Omen, Seminano]
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II
    Heat Sink II
    Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
    Heat Sink II

    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
    Large Shield Extender II
    Warp Disruptor II

    Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
    Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
    Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
    Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
    Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M

    Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
    Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
    Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I


    Warrior II x3


    400\453 deeps, or 329\371 w/scorch, 12,856 ehp with cheap res rigs. This is literally the only omen I get could get to fit and not suck totally hardcore, but it flies like a stabber that has cap issues. Run -or- gun, Yo.
    I consider myself to be a sovereign space holding entity, however the simple fact is that my sphere of influence rarely if ever extends beyond the optimal+falloff*2 of my ship's turrets.

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    Re: Omen

    Just use a laser thorax, it beats the omen out in every possible way. No, that's not exaggeration or sarcasm either. Go look at EFT.

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    Re: Omen

    [Omen, New Setup 1]
    Damage Control II
    1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
    Adaptive Nano Plating II
    Heat Sink II
    Heat Sink II

    Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners
    Warp Scrambler II
    Stasis Webifier II

    Quad Light Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
    Quad Light Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
    Quad Light Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
    Quad Light Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
    Quad Light Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M

    Medium Ancillary Current Router I
    Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
    Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


    Hobgoblin II x3

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    Re: Omen

    Can QLB's even track anything at the range they'd be engaging at? I remember using them back in my earliest days of PvP, before I could even use TII weapons of any kind, but uh, I don't remember much in the way of stellar performance.

    From looking at the numbers, using MF, paper DPS between FMPIIs and QLBIIs is negligibly different, and tracking is... similar (0.11 vs 0.10). Of course, Aurora is shit compared to scorch, and with no MWD, good luck getting anything in range or keeping it there without gangmates.

    I suppose as far as Omens go, it works, but uh, not as well as I wish it could.

    EDIT: At least the new QLB turret models are super cool looking.

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    Re: Omen

    FMl's have .11 tracking, quads have .101 tracking.

    The irony here is that the beams are worse at 20k then the pulses because aurora has a much bigger tracking penalty.

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    Re: Omen

    [Omen, Plated]
    800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
    Adaptive Nano Plating II
    Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
    Heat Sink II
    Heat Sink II

    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
    J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I
    X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator

    Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
    Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
    Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
    Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
    Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

    Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
    Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
    Medium Ancillary Current Router I


    Warrior II x3


    Best I could come up with that uses an armor tank and medium guns.

    Ships an absolute bitch to try fit, as soon as you deal with the powergrid problem the CPU problem jumps at you

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    Re: Omen

    Still doesn't fit without a KZA1000, and cap stable for all of 4 minutes even without the MWD running. Small cap booster almost a necessity on this ship to deal with the shit cap.

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    Re: Omen

    I know its horrible isn't it, makes me sad that I cant really armour tank my Omen. Ah well the Omen Navy Issue is still good

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    Re: Omen

    Quote Originally Posted by KorgToTheFace
    I know its horrible isn't it, makes me sad that I cant really armour tank my Omen. Ah well the Omen Navy Issue is still good

    Not great

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    Re: Omen

    Quote Originally Posted by whispous
    Quote Originally Posted by KorgToTheFace
    I know its horrible isn't it, makes me sad that I cant really armour tank my Omen. Ah well the Omen Navy Issue is still good

    Not great
    It's ok as a soloboat in lowsec, but who roams lowsec solo except on Squigglie?


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    Re: Omen

    Quote Originally Posted by Sofia Roseburn
    Quote Originally Posted by whispous
    Quote Originally Posted by KorgToTheFace
    I know its horrible isn't it, makes me sad that I cant really armour tank my Omen. Ah well the Omen Navy Issue is still good

    Not great
    It's ok as a soloboat in lowsec, but who roams lowsec solo except on Squigglie?
    I do! But it normally ends badly.

    Oh and finish my sig fucker!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rania Serlia View Post
    No omen thread makes me sad. It is a piece of crap though:

    [Omen, Seminano]
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II
    Heat Sink II
    Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
    Heat Sink II

    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
    Large Shield Extender II
    Warp Disruptor II

    Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
    Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
    Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
    Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
    Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M

    Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
    Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
    Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I


    Warrior II x3


    400\453 deeps, or 329\371 w/scorch, 12,856 ehp with cheap res rigs. This is literally the only omen I get could get to fit and not suck totally hardcore, but it flies like a stabber that has cap issues. Run -or- gun, Yo.
    does not compute
    trust me, i tried it, it's crap, you're capped out in a flash.
    it's just that shit.

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    I actually have flown that fit(not total theorycrafting), and to a point I agree. Annoying thing is that it keeps you at 30-40% cap just shooting your guns/scrambling so you have only a couple MWD pulses to GTFO(turn your guns off to GTFO). If you can get away with not using your disruptor fulltime(duoing/small krooza gang etc) it's a little better, but it's still a terrible ship for those of us used to flying minmatar. Damage projection and hit quality(w/ scorch) are good though compared to a deep in falloff autocannon, and speed and agility aren't bad.

    In my mind, it fits into the "flyable, but why don't you just use a rupture" category I think. However, in my mind though most kroozas fit in that category and I fly other stuff anyways.
    I consider myself to be a sovereign space holding entity, however the simple fact is that my sphere of influence rarely if ever extends beyond the optimal+falloff*2 of my ship's turrets.

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    RESURRECTION

    Feel free to rip this one apart
    325 dps and 2.3k/s as posted. More SPEED with overheating.

    [Omen, NANU]
    Heat Sink II
    Heat Sink II
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II
    Tracking Enhancer II
    Damage Control II

    10MN Microwarpdrive II
    Warp Disruptor II
    Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

    Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
    Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
    Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
    Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
    Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

    Medium Ancillary Current Router I
    Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
    Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

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    i've been trying to make fits since retri but this thing just has such little cap you can't really nano it ;-;

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    The speed got buffed to the point that a bunch of nanos aren't needed anymore.

    That said the CPU and slot layout aren't really conducive to soloing (dat ehp) but as DPS support in small gang situations it's pretty incredible.
    I tried to be cool and all I got was a lousy warning about my sig being too big.

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    I EFTd a fit that looks really weird, but IMO is the only way to make this work solo.
    [Omen, wat]

    Damage Control II
    1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
    Small Armor Repairer II
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Heat Sink II
    Heat Sink II

    Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
    Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
    Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

    Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
    Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
    Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
    Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
    Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

    Medium Ancillary Current Router I
    Medium Energy Locus Coordinator I
    Medium Energy Locus Coordinator I


    Warrior II x5


    Even with plate this still moves at respectable 1700+ m/s while sporting actual eHP (24k-ish) and 280 dps out to heated point range.
    Scram + warriors + scorch damage projection gives ~some~ protection against frigates, while the small cap booster solves all cap issues.

    I've tried it and it couldnt quite handle 2 assault frigs + Stabber, but certainly didnt feel useless.
    You can obv. change the :Prom: approach to armortank if you're in lowsec/NPC 0.0 with a lot of stations.
    Last edited by n0th; December 18 2012 at 03:36:57 PM.

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    a slight modification on Takons fit:
    speed is still good enough to act as a support to BC gangs. rigs to taste.
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    [Omen, Takons NANU mk2]
    Damage Control II
    Heat Sink II
    Heat Sink II
    Tracking Enhancer II
    Power Diagnostic System II
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II
    
    Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
    Warp Disruptor II
    Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
    
    Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
    Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
    Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
    Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
    Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
    
    Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
    Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
    Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anzoxe View Post
    i've been trying to make fits since retri but this thing just has such little cap you can't really nano it ;-;
    That thing is the single best kiting tier1 crusier in the game atm! Its cap isnt that bad and it puts out a whole lot of dps vs frigates (a lot more than a cynabal/vagabond), its ehp/speed is sufficient.

    Id roll with something like this:

    [Omen, navyomen]
    Damage Control II
    Heat Sink II
    Heat Sink II
    Tracking Enhancer II
    Tracking Enhancer II
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II

    Large Shield Extender II
    Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
    Warp Disruptor II

    Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
    Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
    Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
    Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
    Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

    Medium Ancillary Current Router II
    Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
    Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I

    (its caplife is better then that of a neutron blaster kiting thorax)

    Drones are up to you, can go full ecm in case you get scrammed, or with 5 lights and some backup or 3 valks two hobs ... !

    Edit: Why cap life> tank? Because you primary targets are frigates, and they usually dont hit very hard at 20ish km, so beeing bale to hold range for longer is more important then beeing able to tank longer, same goes for fighting cruisers, you win vs most cruisers when you can keep at range and extra cap helps more then extra tank! You could probably drop the lse for a cap booster)
    Last edited by W0lf Crendraven; December 19 2012 at 09:49:41 AM.

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    I am fairly sure you dont need a TII ACR on that mate.

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