cost

[cillisia]

Probably already been discussed, but is hosting cost for shc/fhc actually around
70 quid a month? Or was that just cd failing to shop around for hosting? I wouldn't want this forum to properly die and would quite happily contribute to its running costs as long as its a community effort

[whispous]

The cost should have been nowhere near SEVENTY EXTORTIONATE POUNDS.

[EntroX]

The cost should have been nowhere near SEVENTY EXTORTIONATE POUNDS.

this.

[Raine Woot]

The cost should have been nowhere near SEVENTY EXTORTIONATE POUNDS.

this.

Last I heard, you were hosting this for free through your workplace or something, on free server capacity like the minecraft server. Is this still true? Do you just have it running on the same server? I seem to remember it having only slightly outdated dual xeons and roughly eleventy million jiggaquads of RAM.

[cillisia]

I did think it was a bit ridiculous, well I welcome my new brain fart arena

[Amantus]

he probably wanted to skim off the top

[cillisia]

Dunno what sort of guy he is tbh, never spoken to him directly

[zergl]

The cost should have been nowhere near SEVENTY EXTORTIONATE POUNDS.

this.

Pretty much.

A /whois on the IP that SHC is/was hosted on shows it being hosted at a company whose site doesn't have any pricing info (gyron.net, someone on IRC called the contact number "for more information" but only got the answering machine because it was past 5 pm on friday) but googling around showed (outdated with dates being given from being around 2008) cheapest offers of USD 250ish or so per month (dunno about the specs), though that's probably not the package CD got unless he used it to host something else on it as well and just split the cost.

Either way, we don't know the specs of the box and the details of what traffic, etc. is included, but paying 70 quid a month was way over the top of what was reasonably necessary, especially since CD never even remotely delivered on any of the stuff that was suggested in the donation drive threads like TS3 server, hosting a server for whatever FOTM game is played, killboard/video hosting for ganknights, etc. etc.
To be fair, he never comitted to any of the above, but he didn't even deliver on vB, which probably would have at least cut down on the required system specs as from what I've heard phpbb2 is notoriously inefficient and scales terribly...

For comparison, a hosting package that is most likely way oversized for a forum like SHC at a very reputable hoster here in .de (a mate in a sysop/network administration job swears by it and has multiple boxes with them): http://www.hetzner.de/hosting/produktma ... tmatrix-eq
The cheapest package in that product line for €50/mo has 8GB of RAM, a quad core CPU, more disk space than you'd ever need, semi-unlimited traffic (5000 GB/month after which you'd be reduced to 10MBit/s or pay for more 100MBit/s at €7 per additional terabyte).

Granted, 150€ setup cost up front, but in the long run still probably very much oversized hosting for a internet spaceships forum with a few hundred max concurrent users tops for a converted 45 pound a month (curse you, weak GPB) and I dare claim that if you went shopping around for a cheaper, still reasonably reputable hoster you could cut the cost down further.

[cillisia]

Tbh that sounds massive overkill bandwidth wise, the box sounds about right though, surely its the bandwidth you pay most for though with hosting?

[lt]

Either way, we don't know the specs of the box and the details of what traffic, etc. is included, but paying 70 quid a month was way over the top of what was reasonably necessary, especially since CD never even remotely delivered on any of the stuff that was suggested in the donation drive threads like TS3 server, hosting a server for whatever FOTM game is played, killboard/video hosting for ganknights, etc. etc.
To be fair, he never comitted to any of the above, but he didn't even deliver on vB, which probably would have at least cut down on the required system specs as from what I've heard phpbb2 is notoriously inefficient and scales terribly...

I think that FOTM games like trackmania was hosted on the server (I think I was the worst driver)....

[Mimiru]

I'd assume it hosted the badkarma forums and vent as well, but thats like .01% of SHC's traffic.

[Koll]

would quite happily contribute to its running costs as long as its a community effort

This.

I know nothing about interwebs technology however I have money and will always consider throwing it at people who do if FHC starts to have issues.

[Equium Duo]

This wouldn't have happened if someone had a referral code from linode, (and a gun)

[spiralJunkie]

he probably wanted to skim off the top

why just off the top?

[EntroX]

he probably wanted to skim off the top

why just off the top?

i can hardly believe i am agree'ing with lolJunkie

[FooB]

Either way, we don't know the specs of the box and the details of what traffic, etc. is included, but paying 70 quid a month was way over the top of what was reasonably necessary, especially since CD never even remotely delivered on any of the stuff that was suggested in the donation drive threads like TS3 server, hosting a server for whatever FOTM game is played, killboard/video hosting for ganknights, etc. etc.
To be fair, he never comitted to any of the above, but he didn't even deliver on vB, which probably would have at least cut down on the required system specs as from what I've heard phpbb2 is notoriously inefficient and scales terribly...

I think that FOTM games like trackmania was hosted on the server (I think I was the worst driver)....

the trackmania server was a different donation drive altogether. That was the "first" one in which it was more of a brainfart after Trackmania because a far bigger fotm than expected within SHC (like, we were completely filling up public servers with people entirely from SHC alone, per night) and the guy who owned the public we used got pissy (he was a cock anyway) and started banning us from it. So we all decided to chip in and raise enough for our own Trackmania server which ended up collecting far more than intended (roughly around £350) which ended up going towards a top-spec custom box from multiplay, and it ended up hosting other shit as well (like CDs teamspeak, other fotm games etc) until fotm changed and interested died down. he eventually just stopped paying for that.

his trackmania SHC track was incredibly shitty anyway.

[Sofia Roseburn]

Fukken trackmania though. I should re-install that.

[FooB]

fukken a, im down with that. Its been years, it deserves a comeback.

[EntroX]

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1104/fhc_awstats_24h.pdf

for those interested.

[Cydo]

Lol, almost 1/2 million hits and 3gb in one day.

Damn, that's alot.