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    The new links

    So apparently new links are coming and potentially they are landing in august (which is why the AT is being pushed back).

    CCP Fozzie [8:35 PM]
    @kennethfeld: It's a common misunderstanding for people to assume that "ongrid" means "all or most of the grid"

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    that's why I don't use the ongrid terminology anymore

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    regarding ongrid link discussion

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    CCP Fozzie [8:37 PM]
    we're converting links into defined range aoe bursts

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    CCP Fozzie [8:39 PM]
    different ships will have different range bonuses, there will be plenty of ships capable of link ranges beyond 50km

    Anyone have more info on that?
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    woah, might make this shitty game worth playing again... maybe...

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    Pretty sure this was talked about before Fanfest, I guess it got lost among all the Citadel news at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    woah, might make this shitty game worth playing again... maybe...
    it wont though
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    This was mentioned at FF - I specifically asked Fozzie both about the range of the burst on capitals in the capital roundtable (answer was about the same as command ships, maybe 100km) and duration of the effect (possibly 2-5 minutes)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    woah, might make this shitty game worth playing again... maybe...
    it wont though
    i know.

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    Racial difference would be nice. For example Minmatar would have longer falloff for the AoE links
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    Quote Originally Posted by root View Post
    Racial difference would be nice. For example Minmatar would have longer falloff for the AoE links
    Enough with this falloff stuff....


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    Quote Originally Posted by prometheus View Post
    Everyone wants this, and everyone knows AOE would be the best solution.
    I imagine it's currently more of a technical limitation rather than not wanting to do it.
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    Sorry, not everyone thinks some unprobable, bubble immune, scanning covert-ops, uber-link bitch is really a great design and completely beneficial to the gameplay as a whole.
    ON GRID is a bad mechanic because grid sizes are dynamic and can be stretched and shrunk (an exploit when done intentionally iirc).
    SYSTEM WIDE is a bad mechanic because it goes entirely against the eve mantra of risk/reward, since it promotes zero risk beyond running gates.

    AOE is the best possible solution, with optimal and falloff ranges for bonuses.
    Fleet commands would get a significantly weaker bonus than fields and longer range 100+150km, and fields would get a shorter range of maybe 50+100km. T3 would be 100+100 or something with a bonus inbetween field and fleets.
    All link ships would give minor bonuses system wide.

    That's how I would do it, and that's what makes the most sense.
    No more PUT THE ONE LINK GUY IN SYSTEM AND LETS JUST GO. No.
    You would need to make said ships a cohesive part of the battlefield, and not some fucking alt you bought just so you can leave it afk while you enjoy the bonuses.

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    TBH I've been waiting for links to come on grid to start playing again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prometheus View Post

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    Was not a new idea even back in 2010, and they could only do something about links now because of the Brain in the Box.
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    This might let interesting stuff be done to them. I would personally like to see E-War come into this too, such as if you dampen a link-ship it reduces the effective range, TD's reduce the bonii, ECM has a chance to switch them off for a cycle etc.
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    get ready for small and medium FW plexes to have cloaky faggot command destroyers

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    Also afaik the bonuses persist if you leave grid for a specfic period of time (iirc 2-5 minutes or something like that). Depending on how hard the nerf is, this could crash the sp market if people start extracting link alts.
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    You mean create a great buy in moment? Seeing as there is not a endless supply of link alts.

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    T2 skirmish and shield links on longdrinks in one month d:^)

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