[PVP] Dramiel

[SmallFurryBeast]

I would like to share the fit specialised for fighting in 2/10 plexes (i.e. you don't fight anything bigger then destroyer and most of the time you can choose to fight or not to fight).


[Dramiel, ab + shield]
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Medium Shield Extender II
Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster
Coreli A-Type 1MN Afterburner
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

150mm Light AutoCannon II,Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
150mm Light AutoCannon II,Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I,Dread Guristas Thorn Rocket

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Small Core Defence Field Extender II

Warrior II x3


I once managed to kill such dramiel with my expensive raildevil, otherwise I considered it invincible untill today when armor+neut dramiel outlasted my sield dramiel and sucked my cap dry. So, the fit may be improved by inserting nosf.
You may think this one is too expensive, but everyone uses a lot of faction in 2/10 frig duels today.

P.S. This is not my idea. Several people use this fit nowdays.

[Raz]

'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I,Dread Guristas Thorn Rocket

What?

[SmallFurryBeast]

What?

I have some, why wouldn't I use it?

[Rudolf Miller]

In all fairness, a few clips of those only cost about half as much as the ship last I looked. It also buys you like 2 DPS. I've seen more people spend isk on dumber upgrades.

[Sponk]

Would rather faction up the gyro or MSE tho. Hell, factioning up the rocket launcher makes a lot more difference.

[Hypher]

I

[Dramiel, ab + shield]
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Medium Shield Extender II
Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster
Coreli A-Type 1MN Afterburner
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

150mm Light AutoCannon II,Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
150mm Light AutoCannon II,Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I,Dread Guristas Thorn Rocket

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Small Core Defence Field Extender II

Warrior II x3

I have a fit like this laying around. Only difference is a nos instead of rocket launcher. Only used it once to tackle a vaga and claw before my gang showed up. Worked out well, weren't able to break my tank.

I like the buffer to it as well. It saved my ass from a smart bombing rohk when I exited warp.

[Astro]

OD > nano on this ship IMO. It's already ridiculously agile, so you might as well gain some hull HP and speed in return.

[illectro]

Since the dramiel has been nerfed and we have some new implants and widgets to play with I took another look at the oversized MWD dramiel and came up with this terrible idea:

High:
2x125mm Gatling Autocannon II - EMP S

Mid:
10MN Digital Booster Rockets
Imperial Navy Small Capacitor Booster - Navy Cap Booster 150
Domination Warp Disruptor
Small F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

Low:
3x Navy Micro Auxillary Power Core

Rigs:
Small Ancillary Current Router II
2x Small Ancillary Current Router

Implants:
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-1
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-2
Inherent Implants 'Squire' PG10

Drones:
3xHobgoblin

With all relevant level V's you can squeeze out 144 dps, although realisticly, only the drones are likely to stay in range delivering 59dps. Not much in the way of tank EHP is only 3117.
But who cares about DPS, this fit will run at 9,635m/s as long as you don't run out of cap boosters, overheating the MWD brings you up to ~14,200m/s

You can add a few extra implants to help out a bit more, there's room for a Snake Beta, Gamme & Epsilon and a 'Squire' CC10 & 'Rogue' GY-2.5 (or lesser) can really help tame the cap consumption.

Roll in a fleet booster and a can of Quafe zero and with overheat this'll run at ~20.6km/s with a 15 second align time.

Obviously, this is all theorycrafting since the second Genolution implant has yet to be seeded.

[Tyrus Tenebros]

Since the dramiel has been nerfed and we have some new implants and widgets to play with I took another look at the oversized MWD dramiel and came up with this terrible idea:

High:
2x125mm Gatling Autocannon II - EMP S

Mid:
10MN Digital Booster Rockets
Imperial Navy Small Capacitor Booster - Navy Cap Booster 150
Domination Warp Disruptor
Small F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

Low:
3x Navy Micro Auxillary Power Core

Rigs:
Small Ancillary Current Router II
2x Small Ancillary Current Router

Implants:
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-1
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-2
Inherent Implants 'Squire' PG10

Drones:
3xHobgoblin

With all relevant level V's you can squeeze out 144 dps, although realisticly, only the drones are likely to stay in range delivering 59dps. Not much in the way of tank EHP is only 3117.
But who cares about DPS, this fit will run at 9,635m/s as long as you don't run out of cap boosters, overheating the MWD brings you up to ~14,200m/s

You can add a few extra implants to help out a bit more, there's room for a Snake Beta, Gamme & Epsilon and a 'Squire' CC10 & 'Rogue' GY-2.5 (or lesser) can really help tame the cap consumption.

Roll in a fleet booster and a can of Quafe zero and with overheat this'll run at ~20.6km/s with a 15 second align time.

Obviously, this is all theorycrafting since the second Genolution implant has yet to be seeded.

PG10. Lol.

[illectro]

PG10. Lol.

One needs the best if you want to beat the rest.

[Tyrus Tenebros]

PG10. Lol.

One needs the best if you want to beat the rest.

I actually didn't read enough of your post to notice the whole thing was a troll. Oops.

[Al Simmons]

Does anyone fly this anymore since the nerf? I tried fitting it after it hit and it made me sad not being able to fit an MSE and guns. Don't really know what the point of it is now.

[W0lf Crendraven]

The two fits ive used,

Shield ab small booster, pretty much the same as the 2/10 one posted before but with a nos and a od for more structure

[Dramiel, New Setup 1]
Gyrostabilizer II
Internal Force Field Array I
Overdrive Injector System II

J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster
Coreli C-Type 1MN Afterburner

150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
Corpii C-Type Small Nosferatu

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I


The second fit is use is a ab web scram td one

[Dramiel, armor tanked nos td dram]
Corpii C-Type Small Armor Repairer
Coreli C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
Damage Control II

Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Coreli B-Type 1MN Afterburner

150mm Light AutoCannon II, EMP S
150mm Light AutoCannon II, EMP S
Corpii C-Type Small Nosferatu

Small Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Small Projectile Burst Aerator I
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I


Hobgoblin II x3

Still awesome even after the nerf!

[W0lf Crendraven]

[Dramiel, oldschoolnano]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S
[empty high slot]
200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I


Warrior II x3

Just an idea, lets say you have loki links and a hg snake set + zors and some quafe zero... . This ship is faster than anything else, it will ourun (i think) every missile/drone out there, guns can still barely track it and its ehp arent that bad. i wonder what happens if someone gets a scram on it will the speed be enough to get out of scram range before you slow to much down?

[Kyle Semones]

[Dramiel, oldschoolnano]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S
[empty high slot]
200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I


Warrior II x3

Just an idea, lets say you have loki links and a hg snake set + zors and some quafe zero... . This ship is faster than anything else, it will ourun (i think) every missile/drone out there, guns can still barely track it and its ehp arent that bad. i wonder what happens if someone gets a scram on it will the speed be enough to get out of scram range before you slow to much down?

10.3km/s--14.9km/s

this is nothing more than a novelty setup.
this ship is SO fast its uncontrollable.. you couldn't hold onto anything sans maybe a battleship. anything smaller than that will just sling shot you. in 3 seconds you will have burned out of even an overheated point range. and you for sure won't hit a damn thing with your own guns.

the only uses i can see for this ship is scouting, maybe burning down someone at a pounce, or just bragging about your speed.

edit : yes if you got scrammed even if you were at 50% top speed you would easily burn out of range before your MWD finished cycle.

[W0lf Crendraven]

how did they point and kill stuff in the nanoage than?

[Lady Spank]

Scrams didnt kill mwd's, most people were dreadful and ewar didn't nullify most guerilla tactics.

[Ophichius]

how did they point and kill stuff in the nanoage than?

The insanely abusive way that polycarbs and nanos reduced mass and weren't stacking penalized meant you had absolutely unreal agility.

-O

[Lady Spank]

you could totally coast out of webs well before they had an impact on your speed.

I dont remember what my (5x heavy drone + nos) myrmidon's align time was but it was better at evading camps than any frigate is nowadays.

[Kyle Semones]

Go for it then.. just be prepared to tell your fleet you lost point because you zipped right out of range from the drake that takes a 90 degree turn opposite of your orbit and bumps his mwd.

'nanoage' is dead. RIP Nanophoon/Nanodomi