[PVP] Dramiel

[Al Simmons]

Standard whatever fit

[Dramiel, horny]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
1MN Afterburner II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S
[empty high slot]
200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S

Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
Small Projectile Burst Aerator I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I


Warrior II x3
Warrior II x1



Nos setup

[Dramiel, recon nos setup]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Gyrostabilizer II
Internal Force Field Array I

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
1MN Afterburner II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

150mm Light AutoCannon II, Barrage S
Corpii C-Type Small Nosferatu
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Barrage S

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Projectile Burst Aerator I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I


Warrior II x3
Warrior II x1

[Lex Fasces]

i am still very iffy about the tracking on the 200mms.

i believe there is a way to drop to 150s and get a neut on. might be better than your first fit.

[Sofia Roseburn]

150s are p. solid all round. Nos or Neut in the utility, depending on how brave you are.

[Djakku]

[Dramiel, Shield and web]
Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Gistii B-Type 1MN Afterburner
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
[empty high slot]
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S

Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II


Hobgoblin II x3
Hobgoblin II x1

ab web for low sec pimpin'

[phpBB:CriticalError]

ab + web + barrage for lowsec, imo.

[Losvar]

[Dramiel, OP piece of shit]

Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Overdrive Injector System II

Gistii B-Type 1MN Afterburner
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Medium Shield Extender II

150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Phalanx Rocket
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I

Warrior II x3
Warrior II x1

stats:[Statistics - All lvl5]

Effective HP: 7*723
Tank Ability: 25,81 DPS
Damage Profile - <Omni-Damage> (EM: 25,00%, Ex: 25,00%, Ki: 25,00%, Th: 25,00%)
Shield Resists - EM: 43,13%, Ex: 56,25%, Ki: 47,50%, Th: 30,00%
Armor Resists - EM: 66,00%, Ex: 23,50%, Ki: 36,25%, Th: 44,75%

Capacitor: Stable at 82,76%

Volley Damage: 529,09
DPS: 197,66 (220,56)
Speed: 2233,29 (3017,36)

this ship is so disgustingly OP, no ship should get these stats, and not with such a cheap fit.
if i was a complete homosexual, i would probably fly this thing...
unfortunately for me, i'm not

[Tyrus Tenebros]

What are you using to generate those profiles by the way?

[Siuxia]

EFT, eve fitting tool. Google it

[Tyrus Tenebros]

EFT, eve fitting tool. Google it

The ship profiles, not the fits. He formats them in a really detailed way and I was wondering if he typed it out like that or EFT had a way to export the vitals from EFT, which I'm unaware of.

Spend 2 minutes in this forum section and you'll find out I know what EFT is, as I have for the last several years of posting to SHC.

[Losvar]

i use eveHQ, i find it quite a lot better than eft when it comes to :features:
easier to check tracking vs targets, easier to check specific ehp against different damage types and npcs, it's just sexier

[Meridius Dex]

I've never flown this thing, as I share Losvan's disgust for yet another :ccp: ship-balance fuck up.. even though it's stupidly cheap compared to all the other, inferior faction frigs. However, I did find a range fit somewhere (IIRC, Battleclinic) that looked interesting:

[Dramiel, VagaRam]
Power Diagnostic System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Tracking Enhancer II

Gistii B-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed
Medium Shield Extender II
Warp Disruptor II

150mm Light AutoCannon II, Barrage S
Salvager I /OFFLINE
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Barrage S

Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Projectile Metastasis Adjuster I


Warrior II x3

What do you make of this? I've theory-crafted you kite (obviously) with that insane speed (up 9400 overheated m/s with my modest implants) and it's actually cap stable for all practical intents and purposes (7m with max skills). 130 dps isn't going to shatter anyone's world but with that ability to dictate range do you really need to?

Gun tracking is 0.72 and both a DPS graph in EFT and the tracking calculator at Battleclinic seems to show that even in an orbit at high speed, deep falloff and high transversal it would still hit even an ABing frigate hull most of the time.

Your thoughts?

[Tyrus Tenebros]

IME you simply don't really need the extra speed of the speed mods and the slots are better used for other things.

[Xyd]

Why do people fit Speed mods to the fastest most agile ship in the game?

I mean there are frigs that do need the bonuses, but seriously, as fast and OP as this thing is right now, why would you put anything in the lows, but suitcase + gank mods? or MAPC if you wanna roll Dual prop.

[Raz]

Why do people fit Speed mods to the fastest most agile ship in the game?

I mean there are frigs that do need the bonuses, but seriously, as fast and OP as this thing is right now, why would you put anything in the lows, but suitcase + gank mods? or MAPC if you wanna roll Dual prop.

I think the reason you see alot of Drams with ODs and nanos is their frequent use as long ranged ceptors by players with less-than-perfect navigation skills. Which is not to say that I think it's a good reason. But you asked why

[Potato Salad]

[Dramiel, Armor buffer/slaves]
Damage Control II
400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Coreli C-Type 1MN Afterburner
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S
[empty high slot]

Small Trimark Armor Pump II
Small Trimark Armor Pump II
Small Trimark Armor Pump II


Warrior II x3

Very decent ehp with slaves, and speed should be more than enough with dual webs.

[Mr Marram]

[Dramiel, Armor buffer/slaves]

Moron Dram fit.

Very decent ehp with slaves, and speed should be more than enough with dual webs.

Yay another one of 'those' people aiming for best stats in eft with little knowlege of ACTUAL ship ability or flying skill.

Fucking T2 small trimarks, 60mil each but not pimping the AB, EANM or webs ... shit first post.

[Shiodome]

not to defend the fairly bad dramiel fit, but it does have a deadspace AB, faction webs/scram don't do anything for the fit and while you probably should go faction EAMN if you insisted on this derp fit really you're just being an agry spaz for no reason other than that's what you see the big boys do and you want to join in.

the reason the fit is derp is generally people aren't gonna fight drams 1v1 willingly, you have to catch your targets. this thing would struggle to catch many cruisers let alone frigs... the fights where your targets do suspiciously get 'caught' are likely going to be ones where your fancy ehp doesn't matter. examples i'm thinking of are the fairly common dual web harpy/hookbill which will hold you down while backup piles in... the fact that a dual web harpy is faster than you while itself dual webbed it's frankly scandalous/hilarious. not gonna bother checking loads of fits, but i'd assume if a caldari AF can pin you down then most frigs fit for 'dram killing' (i.e dual web) will be able to hold you for their backup aswell.

i dunno, maybe we should be encouraging dram pilots that forgo the drams faggoty 'gtfo' ability? :P

[Leviathan]

[Gix Tyrionn]

Too well rounded, so long as you know what your fighting you should be able to choose the weakness of it and stick to that with your speed. 9k falloff + drones or .54 tracking + drones

Nothing approaches its speed(5k/1.8k m/s) and beats 200dps, 6kehp,



[Dramiel, OP frigate all based covered ]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Gyrostabilizer II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
1MN Afterburner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Small Ancillary Current Router I


Warrior II x3

The logical variant for those who want more tracking or favor 10dps>neut

[Dramiel, don't believe in neuts]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Gyrostabilizer II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
1MN Afterburner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Gremlin Rocket

Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Small Ancillary Current Router I


Warrior II x3

[Pacefalm]

Slight variation on the OP fit

[Dramiel, horny +rocket]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Internal Force Field Array I
Gyrostabilizer II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Medium Shield Extender II
1MN Afterburner II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
Domination Rocket Launcher, Caldari Navy Gremlin Rocket
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S

Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
Small Projectile Burst Aerator I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I


Warrior II x3
Warrior II x1

Trading 200s to 150s + rocket gives about 12 dps for 180 (200 heat) with barrage, 209 (234 heat) with RF PP. Rocket launcher shouldn't be too expensive, last one I saw went for 5mil.
Need to downgrade the DC to IFFA which frees enough CPU to upgrade to T2 extender, works out to about ~200 extra EHP (6.4k).