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    Quote Originally Posted by evil edna View Post
    didnt have you down as a sharia law supporter smuggo
    Communist. Fundamental Islamist. Same sort of people really.

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    add in parks-outside-peoples-houses-wanker too

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    12 yet looks 16+?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawinte View Post
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    May says nope to referendum 2.

    "Now not the time"

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-39293513
    She actually said "not now", which tbh is reasonable. Everyone is going to be kind of busy for the next 2 years, and the last thing anybody needs right now is more uncertainty and another referendum campaign.

    I'd be shocked if we dont see one after Brexit though.
    Cannot wait to see wee jimmy krankies response
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    Surprisingly close to the picture Metro decided to use.

    Psst, Scotland, we’ve heard you got a referendum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Caine View Post
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    Yes I agree. Does he get a criminal record from this?
    I'm pretty sure he does, yes. Unfortunately under the literal letter he WAS guilty, and convicted as such.
    However, i'm not sure if an "absolute discharge" removes that or not.

    edit: Actually, under Scottish Law it appears not:
    "ection 247 further provides that an absolute discharge shall be deemed not to be a conviction for any purpose other than the purposes of the proceedings in which the order is made and of laying it before a court as a previous conviction in subsequent proceedings for another offence, and shall in any event be disregarded for the purposes of any enactment which imposes any disqualification or disability upon convicted persons, or authorises or requires the imposition of any such disqualification or disability. "

    He was lucky.
    Also on top of that with an absolute discharge if say two years down the line he offends again they can re-open this case and charge him again with it. Probably all round the best result in this case from what information appears to be available.

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    tbh sad thing is this is all over the papers so his life is somewhat fucked anyway

    and i could do with wolf/rak/xenosis to say she must have been a hot 12yr old, because if cops thought she was 20

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    Quote Originally Posted by teds :D View Post
    tbh sad thing is this is all over the papers so his life is somewhat fucked anyway

    and i could do with wolf/rak/xenosis to say she must have been a hot 12yr old, because if cops thought she was 20
    I said she has bad genes to look that old at 12.
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    Good for him.

    About punishing the girl... I love how you guys immediately go for punishment instead of Erziehung (upbringing, raising a child).
    Social services ought to be asking the mother why her child was out and about at night buying alcohol. That's a quick way to lose custody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    Good for him.

    About punishing the girl... I love how you guys immediately go for punishment instead of Erziehung (upbringing, raising a child).
    Social services ought to be asking the mother why her child was out and about at night buying alcohol. That's a quick way to lose custody.

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    Lol what social services? We cut them all to pay for recapitalising our banking and financial industries.
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    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
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    Good for him.

    About punishing the girl... I love how you guys immediately go for punishment instead of Erziehung (upbringing, raising a child).
    Social services ought to be asking the mother why her child was out and about at night buying alcohol. That's a quick way to lose custody.

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    Lol what social services? We cut them all to pay for recapitalising our banking and financial industries.
    And yall are wondering why your 12 year olds are out at 4am drinking vodka and fucking 19 year olds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
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    Good for him.

    About punishing the girl... I love how you guys immediately go for punishment instead of Erziehung (upbringing, raising a child).
    Social services ought to be asking the mother why her child was out and about at night buying alcohol. That's a quick way to lose custody.

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    Lol what social services? We cut them all to pay for recapitalising our banking and financial industries.
    And yall are wondering why your 12 year olds are out at 4am drinking vodka and fucking 19 year olds.

    GG WP
    Im not surprised by anything. Toryism expects the poor to act with austere dignity while the wealthy bury their noses in the trough and act with the depravity of a pedophile in a children's ward.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Tories forced me to be a scumbag parent.
    Tories responsible for all worlds ills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meester View Post
    Tories forced me to be a scumbag parent.
    Tories responsible for all worlds ills.
    It would be fine to make fun of these people if the post war settlement/social contract still existed or if the Tories were just honest and said "fuck all of you, every man for themselves". However it doesn't and they won't, so if working 2 jobs doesn't allow you to live in a half dignified manner (by western standards) then I don't think it's reasonable to ask people not to act out for having their noses rubbed in shit just because they were born into the bottom rung of society.

    The middle classes need to get past this snobbery of expecting others to live life as they do even though their circumstances are completely different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawinte View Post
    The middle classes need to get past this snobbery of expecting others to live life as they do even though their circumstances are completely different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    Rape her until she learns her lesson.
    You're such an utter mong. What kind of thought process goes on in you to think this should be posted, for any reason?
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    Pastry.. That the best you can do?
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    M8, i have discussions that spam multiple accounts, you aren't even on my level

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    Quote Originally Posted by FatFreddy View Post
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    Rape her until she learns her lesson.
    You're such an utter mong. What kind of thought process goes on in you to think this should be posted, for any reason?
    jokes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckslayer View Post
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    Rape her until she learns her lesson.
    You're such an utter mong. What kind of thought process goes on in you to think this should be posted, for any reason?
    jokes
    see: for any reason
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    Pastry.. That the best you can do?
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    M8, i have discussions that spam multiple accounts, you aren't even on my level

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    didn't say "good taste jokes

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    Quote Originally Posted by mewninn View Post
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    If you try something 10 times, and get the same shitty result each time, maybe people aren't that dumb for wanting to give #11 a pass.

    Maybe its because there's a whole range of ways to implement communism, but genuine talk of that always unlocks the crazies from their cages. There were moderate socialists in Russia too, but nobody remembers them because the Bolsheviks purged them all.
    There were loads of pretty peaceful communes (who wanted to keep themselves to themselves) in America during the 20s and 30s but the yellow press colluded with the police to violently break them up and imprison the communist ring leaders.
    There are loads of peaceful communes right now. Their existence doesn't really negate the bad history of trying to implement that life on an entire country.

    You can get 100 like-minded people to share their possessions quite easily. Doing the same for 100 million is different, and you will inevitably need to run over some people in the process. And the kind of militant movement needed for that always attracts the same type of despicable people and sociopaths
    Communism isn't going to make you share your tooth brush with your neighbour. It's about democratising the return on capitalamong labourers.
    But that can literally be a social democratic system with a progressive taxation

    By my understanding, actual communism goes a few steps further than that
    no, it cannot.

    the salient point is the ownership of the means of production, a social democratic system keeps that in the hands of the capitalist, that means the power-balance problems and fundamental frictions of a capitalistic system remains, how you organize getting to socialism is a open question, one i do not have a readily available answer to, the Leninist-Marxist approach as you rightfully point out is a dead end do it on a society scale, but the fundamentals work just fine, it's getting there and staying there that is the problem. (staying there being the anarchist problem, look at the history of anarchism in Spain, Orwell's "The Spanish Civil War" gives a first hand account)

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    The trouble is when social democracy is co-opted to further the needs of capital at the expense of labour. .
    I dont believe that's social democracy any more than you believe the USSR was socialism.
    the logical end point of social democracy is self-induced meltdown, the internal contractions are left unaddressed and will, when pressure is applied, resurface.

    you know, like when the USSR collapses and there's no actual need to sustain the "bribes" to the working class due to the lack of exterior threat ?

    now where have we seen that before i wonder, could you be living in the fucking posterchild of this specific tendency perhaps ?
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