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    May says nope to referendum 2.

    "Now not the time"

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-39293513
    She actually said "not now", which tbh is reasonable. Everyone is going to be kind of busy for the next 2 years, and the last thing anybody needs right now is more uncertainty and another referendum campaign.

    I'd be shocked if we dont see one after Brexit though.
    So, applying that FT(?) article that someone linked here a few month ago, which explained the difference between a German "No" and a Bristh "No", May actually said "Yes"?

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    Looks like the Dutch Farage has failed according to exit polls. And in a welcome development a left wing party of communists has done rather well. Vodkas all round comrades.
    In france the left wing is imploding and Le PEn has a decent chance overall, so hold the vodka.
    That's fine, the French are traditionally bad at war comrade so will surrender to the revolutionary forces as soon as they see our glorious red flags on the horizon.

    Also pretty sure it's the centre right that is imploding in France thanks to sticky fingers Fillon.
    Well both, yes. Fillon is still expected to do better than the Socialists, which rly mks u thnk
    Not really, Francois Hollande has been a walking disaster.
    Yeah his economic policies have fucked france into the ground. Glad we agree.
    His largely centrist economic policies which bear little resemblance to the much more radical economic policies he campaigned on and failed to deliver? Yes we do agree it seems.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
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    May says nope to referendum 2.

    "Now not the time"

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-39293513
    She actually said "not now", which tbh is reasonable. Everyone is going to be kind of busy for the next 2 years, and the last thing anybody needs right now is more uncertainty and another referendum campaign.

    I'd be shocked if we dont see one after Brexit though.
    So, applying that FT(?) article that someone linked here a few month ago, which explained the difference between a German "No" and a Bristh "No", May actually said "Yes"?
    No (yes).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
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    Looks like the Dutch Farage has failed according to exit polls. And in a welcome development a left wing party of communists has done rather well. Vodkas all round comrades.
    In france the left wing is imploding and Le PEn has a decent chance overall, so hold the vodka.
    That's fine, the French are traditionally bad at war comrade so will surrender to the revolutionary forces as soon as they see our glorious red flags on the horizon.

    Also pretty sure it's the centre right that is imploding in France thanks to sticky fingers Fillon.
    Well both, yes. Fillon is still expected to do better than the Socialists, which rly mks u thnk
    Not really, Francois Hollande has been a walking disaster.
    Yeah his economic policies have fucked france into the ground. Glad we agree.
    His largely centrist economic policies which bear little resemblance to the much more radical economic policies he campaigned on and failed to deliver? Yes we do agree it seems.
    Ahh I see - his unpopularity is down to not being left wing enough? Well I'm sure the Socialists (with their new hard-left replacement leader) and even further left Communists must be forecast to do really well in the elections then... oh wait? They are nose-diving into the ground you say? Wow that's odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
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    May says nope to referendum 2.

    "Now not the time"

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-39293513
    She actually said "not now", which tbh is reasonable. Everyone is going to be kind of busy for the next 2 years, and the last thing anybody needs right now is more uncertainty and another referendum campaign.

    I'd be shocked if we dont see one after Brexit though.
    So, applying that FT(?) article that someone linked here a few month ago, which explained the difference between a German "No" and a Bristh "No", May actually said "Yes"?
    "Not now" usually mean "fuck off", but you'd have to interpret that further as in "fuck off with your referendum" or "fuck off as in fuck off".

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    Well they're carrying the weight of Holland's failure. Also France is a cluster fuck due to its inability to handle domestic militant Islamists,another of his failings.


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    And Yugoslavia lost between 300-440k. On the fraction of the population.
    massacring your own civilians doesnt count mate
    No m8 those are separate.


    

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeromeDoutrande View Post
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    May says nope to referendum 2.

    "Now not the time"

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-39293513
    She actually said "not now", which tbh is reasonable. Everyone is going to be kind of busy for the next 2 years, and the last thing anybody needs right now is more uncertainty and another referendum campaign.

    I'd be shocked if we dont see one after Brexit though.
    So, applying that FT(?) article that someone linked here a few month ago, which explained the difference between a German "No" and a Bristh "No", May actually said "Yes"?
    "Not now" usually mean "fuck off", but you'd have to interpret that further as in "fuck off with your referendum" or "fuck off as in fuck off".
    Our "no" is a very complicated beast, as are the various other negatives such as "not now", "maybe later", "i'll think about it" and "i've got a headache".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Caine View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Caine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spawinte View Post
    May says nope to referendum 2.

    "Now not the time"

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-39293513
    She actually said "not now", which tbh is reasonable. Everyone is going to be kind of busy for the next 2 years, and the last thing anybody needs right now is more uncertainty and another referendum campaign.

    I'd be shocked if we dont see one after Brexit though.
    So, applying that FT(?) article that someone linked here a few month ago, which explained the difference between a German "No" and a Bristh "No", May actually said "Yes"?
    "Not now" usually mean "fuck off", but you'd have to interpret that further as in "fuck off with your referendum" or "fuck off as in fuck off".
    Our "no" is a very complicated beast, as are the various other negatives such as "not now", "maybe later", "i'll think about it" and "i've got a headache".
    Not now please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeromeDoutrande View Post
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    May says nope to referendum 2.

    "Now not the time"

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-39293513
    She actually said "not now", which tbh is reasonable. Everyone is going to be kind of busy for the next 2 years, and the last thing anybody needs right now is more uncertainty and another referendum campaign.

    I'd be shocked if we dont see one after Brexit though.
    So, applying that FT(?) article that someone linked here a few month ago, which explained the difference between a German "No" and a Bristh "No", May actually said "Yes"?
    "Not now" usually mean "fuck off", but you'd have to interpret that further as in "fuck off with your referendum" or "fuck off as in fuck off".
    Our "no" is a very complicated beast, as are the various other negatives such as "not now", "maybe later", "i'll think about it" and "i've got a headache".
    Not now please.
    Let me guess :" I'd strongly prefer it if you crawled into a ditch and died, but make sure i don't have to hear, see, or smell anything about the whole business. "
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    I couldn't possibly comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
    Ahh I see - his unpopularity is down to not being left wing enough? Well I'm sure the Socialists (with their new hard-left replacement leader) and even further left Communists must be forecast to do really well in the elections then... oh wait? They are nose-diving into the ground you say? Wow that's odd.
    He was elected on a left wing manifesto which he didn't deliver and as a result tarnished the reputation of the left (you promise one thing but have delivered more of the same). Coupled with a perceived weakness in response to domestic terrorism he then loses support to a group who promise action and change. It's not that surprising when you consider multiple factors are at play.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
    Ahh I see - his unpopularity is down to not being left wing enough? Well I'm sure the Socialists (with their new hard-left replacement leader) and even further left Communists must be forecast to do really well in the elections then... oh wait? They are nose-diving into the ground you say? Wow that's odd.
    He was elected on a left wing manifesto which he didn't deliver and as a result tarnished the reputation of the left (you promise one thing but have delivered more of the same). Coupled with a perceived weakness in response to domestic terrorism he then loses support to a group who promise action and change. It's not that surprising when you consider multiple factors are at play.
    Indeed, some people seem to take the concepts of left and right a little too literally, as though the entirely of politics is some simplistic 2D spectrum which just swings back and forth.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
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    Ahh I see - his unpopularity is down to not being left wing enough? Well I'm sure the Socialists (with their new hard-left replacement leader) and even further left Communists must be forecast to do really well in the elections then... oh wait? They are nose-diving into the ground you say? Wow that's odd.
    He was elected on a left wing manifesto which he didn't deliver and as a result tarnished the reputation of the left (you promise one thing but have delivered more of the same). Coupled with a perceived weakness in response to domestic terrorism he then loses support to a group who promise action and change. It's not that surprising when you consider multiple factors are at play.
    Indeed, some people seem to take the concepts of left and right a little too literally, as though the entirely of politics is some simplistic 2D spectrum which just swings back and forth.
    Life is easier when you over simplify it nbs
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawinte View Post
    May says nope to referendum 2.

    "Now not the time"

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-39293513
    Can you imagine the uproar if Brussels had objected when Cameron called the Brexit referendum?

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    I think the threat of a le Pen victory is overdone. Most probably she'll got to the second round with Macron. At which point everyone not voting for le Pen will swing behind Macron to at least keep her out. Macron most of the French can live with. Hardly anyone French can live with le Pen. And that'll be that for le Pen, because afterwards she'll be hit with some interesting law suits regarding ill-spend money.

    Not a given, I admit, but quite likely as it stands now. As I see it, Macron can only lose this if he's found out to have diddled children in the past. Which is ... unlikely ...

    As for the Dutch election: I don't know what some of you are on about; Wilders never had a shot. That's just not how Dutch elections work. As for AfD in Germany, I doubt it will amount to much at the ballot box.

    In the end, only the anglo-saxons are stupid enough (and have moronic enough election systems) to fuck things up in the way that they have.

    All the yadayada about the French being bad a war is just a pitiful attempt at redirection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartholomeus Crane View Post
    I think the threat of a le Pen victory is overdone. Most probably she'll got to the second round with Macron. At which point everyone not voting for le Pen will swing behind Macron to at least keep her out. Macron most of the French can live with. Hardly anyone French can live with le Pen..
    This really, it's been obvious for months. Le Pen will easily get to the 2nd round due to all the votes being split up in the 1st round, but at that point it's her supporters vs the whole of the rest of France.

    As you say, not a given, but it's highly unlikely that she will win to say the least.

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    I'm just amazed Fillon is continuing. He's fucked and should probably drop now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodj Blake View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spawinte View Post
    May says nope to referendum 2.

    "Now not the time"

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-39293513
    Can you imagine the uproar if Brussels had objected when Cameron called the Brexit referendum?
    May can't really stop it from happening now. She can try to delay it for a bit, but the shit will hit the fan soon enough, and then the Scots will want that get-out-of-jail card and pronto. So the SNP, with help from the Greens, will vote for having a referendum, and then rile up the Scots till they get it before Brexit becomes final. All May has done is, actually, help the SNP win it.

    The Tories, and especially May, in how they dealt with Brexit and the Scots, have all but guaranteed the breakup of the union. The damage is now irreparable, the UK as an entity, as it is now, is a dead man walking.
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    ...i have no idea whats realy going on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    I'm just amazed Fillon is continuing. He's fucked and should probably drop now.
    It is amazing, until you realise that if he drops out now, he's done for, and go into retirement straight away. There's no one to replace him at this short notice anyway. And a drop out will mean/be seen as a confession.

    Why not sit it out past the first round? He's got nothing more to lose as it is.
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    ...i have no idea whats realy going on...

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