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    Quote Originally Posted by W0lf Crendraven View Post
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    I can't really see there being an appetite to grow the eurozone anyway. Like alongside the Merkel refugee policy its probably the biggest driver of anti EU sentiment as it is. If anything they'd be smart to shrink it.
    That sentiment only is true for the east.
    And the south. Realistically the workable euro area is about 6 countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W0lf Crendraven View Post
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    I can't really see there being an appetite to grow the eurozone anyway. Like alongside the Merkel refugee policy its probably the biggest driver of anti EU sentiment as it is. If anything they'd be smart to shrink it.
    That sentiment only is true for the east.
    its probably true for any country that doesnt have most of its economy tied to Germany.


    

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    If by posturing you mean veto it, then yeah.
    They won't veto because catalonia in no way or form compares to Scotland, at least in my view .
    As per the Spanish Foreign Minister, they'll join the back of the queue like any other country.
    There is no queue. You either qualify for membership and join or you don't.
    which, ps scotland doesn't. if you want to be fully in the EU post 2020 (won't happen) you'll have to take the euro. to take the euro you need a period (3 years?) of no more than 3% budget deficit - scotlands is currently a hair over 9%
    So tell me what currency do Sweden, Croatia, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary use? Also perhaps you can tell me why especially the latter considering they are recent joiners are not using the Euro as their national currency?
    you and smuggo missed the bit where i said post 2020.

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    Are you really saying Scotland is somehow comparable to Greece?
    At least they have feta and olives.

    You've got haggis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoffl View Post
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    Are you really saying Scotland is somehow comparable to Greece?
    At least they have feta and olives.

    You've got haggis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
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    I can't really see there being an appetite to grow the eurozone anyway. Like alongside the Merkel refugee policy its probably the biggest driver of anti EU sentiment as it is. If anything they'd be smart to shrink it.
    That sentiment only is true for the east.
    And the south. Realistically the workable euro area is about 6 countries.
    I meant the shrink the EU sentiment, not the eurozone. People don't want poor eastern European countries in the EU. If a country like Norway joined, people within the EU wouldn't complain at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W0lf Crendraven View Post
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    I can't really see there being an appetite to grow the eurozone anyway. Like alongside the Merkel refugee policy its probably the biggest driver of anti EU sentiment as it is. If anything they'd be smart to shrink it.
    That sentiment only is true for the east.
    And the south. Realistically the workable euro area is about 6 countries.
    I meant the shrink the EU sentiment, not the eurozone. People don't want poor eastern European countries in the EU. If a country like Norway joined, people within the EU wouldn't complain at all.
    Most people I know are pretty much alright with the eastern european EU members

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    I can't really see there being an appetite to grow the eurozone anyway. Like alongside the Merkel refugee policy its probably the biggest driver of anti EU sentiment as it is. If anything they'd be smart to shrink it.
    That sentiment only is true for the east.
    And the south. Realistically the workable euro area is about 6 countries.
    I meant the shrink the EU sentiment, not the eurozone. People don't want poor eastern European countries in the EU. If a country like Norway joined, people within the EU wouldn't complain at all.
    Most people I know are pretty much alright with the eastern european EU members
    Yeah because they provide cheap labour to the Germans
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortalitis View Post
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    Are you really saying Scotland is somehow comparable to Greece?
    At least they have feta and olives.

    You've got haggis.

    Checkm8
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    And square sausage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post

    There were some amusing tweets regarding St Theresa's own mandate from Nicola Sturgeon after May said the SNP had no mandate for a referendum.
    They have a mandate to hold a Scottish referendum but not a mandate for it to be recognised by the UK Government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F18 View Post
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    If by posturing you mean veto it, then yeah.
    They won't veto because catalonia in no way or form compares to Scotland, at least in my view .
    As per the Spanish Foreign Minister, they'll join the back of the queue like any other country.
    There is no queue. You either qualify for membership and join or you don't.
    Be sure to tell the Spanish Foreign Minister that m8

    Anyway, Scotland - in its current form - does not qualify. It doesn't meet a lot of the financial pre-reqs for EU membership.

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    Advisory referenda are all the rage right now, you know.
    'I'm pro life. I'm a non-smoker. I'm a pro-life non-smoker. WOO, Let the party begin!'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
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    I can't really see there being an appetite to grow the eurozone anyway. Like alongside the Merkel refugee policy its probably the biggest driver of anti EU sentiment as it is. If anything they'd be smart to shrink it.
    That sentiment only is true for the east.
    And the south. Realistically the workable euro area is about 6 countries.
    I meant the shrink the EU sentiment, not the eurozone. People don't want poor eastern European countries in the EU. If a country like Norway joined, people within the EU wouldn't complain at all.
    Most people I know are pretty much alright with the eastern european EU members
    Yeah because they provide cheap labour to the Germans
    Well mostly to the UK tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djan Seriy Anaplian View Post
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    If by posturing you mean veto it, then yeah.
    They won't veto because catalonia in no way or form compares to Scotland, at least in my view .
    As per the Spanish Foreign Minister, they'll join the back of the queue like any other country.
    There is no queue. You either qualify for membership and join or you don't.
    Be sure to tell the Spanish Foreign Minister that m8

    Anyway, Scotland - in its current form - does not qualify. It doesn't meet a lot of the financial pre-reqs for EU membership.
    Those strict rules that ensure only high quality countries can join...

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    If Scotland were to leave the UK, would that result in the rise of the Glorious Eternal Tory Empire for the rest of you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeromeDoutrande View Post
    If Scotland were to leave the UK, would that result in the rise of the Glorious Eternal Tory Empire for the rest of you?
    only if corbyn keeps being pointless. labours key grounds were the north of england, and it's not scotlands fault that labour has lost that.

    AGAIN

    scotland cannot join the EU (unless they get in before 2020) at their current deficit level. and this is very much while under financial support from the UK as a whole.

    if i was scottish i wouldn't have voted for indy in the last go, and i certainly wouldn't in this rerun. if you want independence, vote for it for the right fucking reasons.

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    What are the "right reasons"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post

    Well mostly to the UK tbh.
    Nowhere near the same scale as they do for German export companies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teds :D View Post
    if you want independence, vote for it for the right fucking reasons.
    make me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    What are the "right reasons"?
    the right reasons, if we're ignoring nationalism are inheriting a country that isn't going to be instantly fucked by debt, without an armed forces, without any real trade agreements, with no financial fallback mechanisms and an awful lot more

    same as i said before, i'd love for (and eventually vote for) a united ireland, but right now is not the time.

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