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    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    I get that people don't like the content of Meesters posts, but can we please focus on what's really important?

    I mean, seriously, what's with the line breaks?
    He's copypasting his responses from the local racist fuckwit discord

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kai View Post
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    The writing has been on the wall for a while now on that one, ever since the border issue came to light. We will soon see how many international companies are on the ball and start announcing moves out of UK and more than likely to Germany to stay in the EU trade zone.

    The next big question is how prepared the UK is for the no deal brexit, starting to inspect all arriving goods in customs, negotiating new trade deals, deporting the EU residents and replacing them in their jobs (like the before mentioned veterinarians in food production)...
    Let's first see how they respond to the UK slashing business tax / rates to something the EU zone couldn't complete with.
    That'll fuck the north hard. It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rami View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
    The writing has been on the wall for a while now on that one, ever since the border issue came to light. We will soon see how many international companies are on the ball and start announcing moves out of UK and more than likely to Germany to stay in the EU trade zone.

    The next big question is how prepared the UK is for the no deal brexit, starting to inspect all arriving goods in customs, negotiating new trade deals, deporting the EU residents and replacing them in their jobs (like the before mentioned veterinarians in food production)...
    Not prepared in any tangible way. At most departments and responsible bodies have done an analysis on 'what if'. Most of those are 'err shit this would be a crap'. Most people have assumed nobody would let it get that far.
    And most of the questions are still the same even if a miraculous last minute deal would surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerWish View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
    The writing has been on the wall for a while now on that one, ever since the border issue came to light. We will soon see how many international companies are on the ball and start announcing moves out of UK and more than likely to Germany to stay in the EU trade zone.

    The next big question is how prepared the UK is for the no deal brexit, starting to inspect all arriving goods in customs, negotiating new trade deals, deporting the EU residents and replacing them in their jobs (like the before mentioned veterinarians in food production)...
    Let's first see how they respond to the UK slashing business tax / rates to something the EU zone couldn't complete with.
    Devil is in the details... critics say it would speed up foreign company's flight to the EU.
    Slashing business tax corresponds with decreasing / eliminating deductibles.
    Same happened in the US last year, UK's biggest corporate tax payers ain't paying that 19% even today.
    There's more to "doing business here" than just taxing, e.g. being able to do business at all. With whom would those business deal, with no trade treaties in place at all?

    If the sum of everything else turns out comparably, taxation is very well the deciding factor. But low/no taxation alone isn't going to overcome all other obstacles, I'm afraid (for my U.K. brethren).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
    The writing has been on the wall for a while now on that one, ever since the border issue came to light. We will soon see how many international companies are on the ball and start announcing moves out of UK and more than likely to Germany to stay in the EU trade zone.

    The next big question is how prepared the UK is for the no deal brexit, starting to inspect all arriving goods in customs, negotiating new trade deals, deporting the EU residents and replacing them in their jobs (like the before mentioned veterinarians in food production)...
    Let's first see how they respond to the UK slashing business tax / rates to something the EU zone couldn't complete with.
    Even if the tax rate is 0 (which for the most big companies already is) what do you think would happen?


    

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
    The writing has been on the wall for a while now on that one, ever since the border issue came to light. We will soon see how many international companies are on the ball and start announcing moves out of UK and more than likely to Germany to stay in the EU trade zone.

    The next big question is how prepared the UK is for the no deal brexit, starting to inspect all arriving goods in customs, negotiating new trade deals, deporting the EU residents and replacing them in their jobs (like the before mentioned veterinarians in food production)...
    Let's first see how they respond to the UK slashing business tax / rates to something the EU zone couldn't complete with.
    But the UK does not have any trade deals once no deal Brexit happens. It's more important for the companies to have easy access than not paying taxes. Most aren't paying much in taxes anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
    The writing has been on the wall for a while now on that one, ever since the border issue came to light. We will soon see how many international companies are on the ball and start announcing moves out of UK and more than likely to Germany to stay in the EU trade zone.

    The next big question is how prepared the UK is for the no deal brexit, starting to inspect all arriving goods in customs, negotiating new trade deals, deporting the EU residents and replacing them in their jobs (like the before mentioned veterinarians in food production)...
    Let's first see how they respond to the UK slashing business tax / rates to something the EU zone couldn't complete with.
    That affects the UK income, which is already under heavy strain. NHS, MoD, police, education etc don't pay for themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebomby View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sarp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
    The writing has been on the wall for a while now on that one, ever since the border issue came to light. We will soon see how many international companies are on the ball and start announcing moves out of UK and more than likely to Germany to stay in the EU trade zone.

    The next big question is how prepared the UK is for the no deal brexit, starting to inspect all arriving goods in customs, negotiating new trade deals, deporting the EU residents and replacing them in their jobs (like the before mentioned veterinarians in food production)...
    Let's first see how they respond to the UK slashing business tax / rates to something the EU zone couldn't complete with.
    That affects the UK income, which is already under heavy strain. NHS, MoD, police, education etc don't pay for themselves.
    Unless you sell them all off to US Vulture Capitalists for pennies in return for 1 day a week nonexecutive directorships
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    Arlene Foster seems to have affixed the coffin lid on any sort of deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawinte View Post
    Arlene Foster seems to have affixed the coffin lid on any sort of deal.
    A rare sight seeing that the coffin nails are being nailed from inside the very same coffin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawinte View Post
    Arlene Foster seems to have affixed the coffin lid on any sort of deal.
    And yet if you or I went over to her place after lunch and repeatedly smacked her in the head with a crowbar, they'd call us the criminals.
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    Something is happening


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawinte View Post
    Something is happening

    Seems that almost all UK parties want to see the deal fail for not being soft/hard enough I can't see it getting through parliament.

    Question is what happens when it gets rejected (assuming it's not on the eve of leaving)

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    Yeah, rumors are saying that the negotiators have come to an agreement, but it would still need to be approved by all eu members and the UK government and the DUP leaks don't bode too well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
    Yeah, rumors are saying that the negotiators have come to an agreement, but it would still need to be approved by all eu members and the UK government and the DUP leaks don't bode too well.

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    Politco is the one claiming the negotiators have an agreement, Reuters is saying there are still things open, so the meeting might also be "UK gov has lost the support of DUP and we can't do anything anymore"

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    And apparently there will be no more negotiations before the summit. And the border issue is still wide open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
    And apparently there will be no more negotiations before the summit. And the border issue is still wide open.
    Hard brexit, return of the troubles unless NI gets a referendum to reunite with the rest of Ireland.

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