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Thread: (UK EURO WAFFLE) Limey Civil War

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    A lot of Tory voters backed them for Brexit more than their economic policy, which was barely mentioned by them during the campaign at all. And what bigger example of neoliberalism in action is there than the EU itself?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    A lot of Tory voters backed them for Brexit more than their economic policy, which was barely mentioned by them during the campaign at all. And what bigger example of neoliberalism in action is there than the EU itself?
    The US?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    A lot of Tory voters backed them for Brexit more than their economic policy, which was barely mentioned by them during the campaign at all. And what bigger example of neoliberalism in action is there than the EU itself?
    Both major parties supported going through with the brexit in this last election.

    The primary difference was their monetary policies.
    -The Tories directly ran on opposition to the so-called "magic-money-tree", keeping taxes low to support growth and extending austerity to new areas.
    -Labor ran on an increase in taxation and social spending, a re-nationalization of key services and a gigantic public infrastructure investment.

    The people voted for neo-liberalism. But only just.

    Next election they might not, but you are seriously overstating the level of rejection right now.

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    I would say it is a bit more nuanced than that. Labour's campaign and manifesto put their economic policy front and centre, the Tories mostly ignored the economy and focused on personal attacks (as usual) and Brexit. All they really talked about economically was vague, "we're strengthening the public finances" when a cursory glance at their actual economic record reveals what an unmitigated disaster it has been. I think many more Tory voters voted Tory through some misguided patriotism or desire for super hard Brexit as opposed to their economic offering.

    Anyway, the momentum is there and I have little doubt that neoliberalism will be dead an buried in this country soon enough. Hopefully Europe will follow once Macron destroys France with his banker boy policies.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post

    Also, Blair himself is a big factor in people voting to leave, because his rabid Europhillia exposed us to the worst aspects of globalisation and also saw us give up a third of our rebate for an agricultural reform that never happened because the EU is so resistant to reform.
    You should not have had the rebate in the first place tbfh.

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    Double whammy


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post

    Also, Blair himself is a big factor in people voting to leave, because his rabid Europhillia exposed us to the worst aspects of globalisation and also saw us give up a third of our rebate for an agricultural reform that never happened because the EU is so resistant to reform.
    You should not have had the rebate in the first place tbfh.

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    You should not have unified the European currencies.
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    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
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    Also, Blair himself is a big factor in people voting to leave, because his rabid Europhillia exposed us to the worst aspects of globalisation and also saw us give up a third of our rebate for an agricultural reform that never happened because the EU is so resistant to reform.
    You should not have had the rebate in the first place tbfh.

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    You should not have unified the European currencies.
    And destroyed all the Southern European economies to help German exporters in the process.



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    And usurped the democratically elected governments of member states to keep an unelected financial institution happy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Turns out that group enterprises need compromises and flexibility to work in practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
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    Also, Blair himself is a big factor in people voting to leave, because his rabid Europhillia exposed us to the worst aspects of globalisation and also saw us give up a third of our rebate for an agricultural reform that never happened because the EU is so resistant to reform.
    You should not have had the rebate in the first place tbfh.

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    Wasn't our idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Turns out that group enterprises need compromises and flexibility to work in practice.
    COMPROMISE IS VERBOTEN
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
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    Turns out that group enterprises need compromises and flexibility to work in practice.
    COMPROMISE IS REACTIONARY BOURGOISE REVISIONISM
    ftfy, komrad

    when would you like your self-criticism session to start?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
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    Also, Blair himself is a big factor in people voting to leave, because his rabid Europhillia exposed us to the worst aspects of globalisation and also saw us give up a third of our rebate for an agricultural reform that never happened because the EU is so resistant to reform.
    You should not have had the rebate in the first place tbfh.

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    You should not have unified the European currencies.
    Wasn't our idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elriche Oshego View Post
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    Also, Blair himself is a big factor in people voting to leave, because his rabid Europhillia exposed us to the worst aspects of globalisation and also saw us give up a third of our rebate for an agricultural reform that never happened because the EU is so resistant to reform.
    You should not have had the rebate in the first place tbfh.

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    You should not have unified the European currencies.
    Wasn't our idea.

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    Fuck the french frog fuccbois.
    Well to be fair they did foot the money for the UK's rebate.
    nevar forget

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
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    Also, Blair himself is a big factor in people voting to leave, because his rabid Europhillia exposed us to the worst aspects of globalisation and also saw us give up a third of our rebate for an agricultural reform that never happened because the EU is so resistant to reform.
    You should not have had the rebate in the first place tbfh.

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    You should not have unified the European currencies.
    Wasn't our idea.

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    Fuck the french frog fuccbois.
    Well to be fair they did foot the money for the UK's rebate.
    They also trousered the lions share of the money for the rather imbalanced CAP.
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    I think Blair giving up part of the rebate speaks more to his grossly inflated sense of ability at international diplomacy than his europhillia. That & justifications for the rebate became increasingly flimsy since we got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholai Pestot View Post
    There is certainly a trend towards a rejection of neo-liberalism, but you are living in a very strange information-bubble if you think it has been rejected by the majority of the population.
    A deluded group of would-be revolution-romantics convincing themselves that they have the support of the people? I say, totally unheard of.

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    Today round #2 of #brexit negotiations start. I didn't understand everything (because shower), but it seems that the U.K. proposed (threatend?) some serious obstacles on work permits for EU citziens who are currently in the U.K.

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    Will be more Brexiteers chest beating since that's all they have left

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