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    Also, Blair himself is a big factor in people voting to leave, because his rabid Europhillia exposed us to the worst aspects of globalisation and also saw us give up a third of our rebate for an agricultural reform that never happened because the EU is so resistant to reform.
    You should not have had the rebate in the first place tbfh.

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    You should not have unified the European currencies.
    And destroyed all the Southern European economies to help German exporters in the process.

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    And usurped the democratically elected governments of member states to keep an unelected financial institution happy.
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    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Turns out that group enterprises need compromises and flexibility to work in practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
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    Also, Blair himself is a big factor in people voting to leave, because his rabid Europhillia exposed us to the worst aspects of globalisation and also saw us give up a third of our rebate for an agricultural reform that never happened because the EU is so resistant to reform.
    You should not have had the rebate in the first place tbfh.

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    You should not have unified the European currencies.
    Wasn't our idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Turns out that group enterprises need compromises and flexibility to work in practice.
    COMPROMISE IS VERBOTEN
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Turns out that group enterprises need compromises and flexibility to work in practice.
    COMPROMISE IS REACTIONARY BOURGOISE REVISIONISM
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    when would you like your self-criticism session to start?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
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    Also, Blair himself is a big factor in people voting to leave, because his rabid Europhillia exposed us to the worst aspects of globalisation and also saw us give up a third of our rebate for an agricultural reform that never happened because the EU is so resistant to reform.
    You should not have had the rebate in the first place tbfh.

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    You should not have unified the European currencies.
    Wasn't our idea.

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    Fuck the french frog fuccbois.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elriche Oshego View Post
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    Also, Blair himself is a big factor in people voting to leave, because his rabid Europhillia exposed us to the worst aspects of globalisation and also saw us give up a third of our rebate for an agricultural reform that never happened because the EU is so resistant to reform.
    You should not have had the rebate in the first place tbfh.

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    You should not have unified the European currencies.
    Wasn't our idea.

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    Fuck the french frog fuccbois.
    Well to be fair they did foot the money for the UK's rebate.
    nevar forget

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
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    Also, Blair himself is a big factor in people voting to leave, because his rabid Europhillia exposed us to the worst aspects of globalisation and also saw us give up a third of our rebate for an agricultural reform that never happened because the EU is so resistant to reform.
    You should not have had the rebate in the first place tbfh.

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    You should not have unified the European currencies.
    Wasn't our idea.

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    Fuck the french frog fuccbois.
    Well to be fair they did foot the money for the UK's rebate.
    They also trousered the lions share of the money for the rather imbalanced CAP.
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    I think Blair giving up part of the rebate speaks more to his grossly inflated sense of ability at international diplomacy than his europhillia. That & justifications for the rebate became increasingly flimsy since we got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholai Pestot View Post
    There is certainly a trend towards a rejection of neo-liberalism, but you are living in a very strange information-bubble if you think it has been rejected by the majority of the population.
    A deluded group of would-be revolution-romantics convincing themselves that they have the support of the people? I say, totally unheard of.

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    Today round #2 of #brexit negotiations start. I didn't understand everything (because shower), but it seems that the U.K. proposed (threatend?) some serious obstacles on work permits for EU citziens who are currently in the U.K.

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    Will be more Brexiteers chest beating since that's all they have left

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
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    Also, Blair himself is a big factor in people voting to leave, because his rabid Europhillia exposed us to the worst aspects of globalisation and also saw us give up a third of our rebate for an agricultural reform that never happened because the EU is so resistant to reform.
    You should not have had the rebate in the first place tbfh.

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    You should not have unified the European currencies.
    And destroyed all the Southern European economies to help German exporters in the process.
    That's mostly BS, the countries involved had pre-existing issues, some fell victim to pre-Euro speculation booms (Portugal), most never adjusted to increased productivity demands of a common market (Spain, Greece, Slovenia), and some are still utterly fucked (Italy).


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    Quote Originally Posted by lubica View Post

    That's mostly BS, the countries involved had pre-existing issues, some fell victim to pre-Euro speculation booms (Portugal), most never adjusted to increased productivity demands of a common market (Spain, Greece, Slovenia), and some are still utterly fucked (Italy).
    Germany and the ECB believe that every single country can simultaneously run economies with net trade surpluses. They're incapable of basic maths and structured a common market entirely based on an impossible trade balance.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lubica View Post
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    Also, Blair himself is a big factor in people voting to leave, because his rabid Europhillia exposed us to the worst aspects of globalisation and also saw us give up a third of our rebate for an agricultural reform that never happened because the EU is so resistant to reform.
    You should not have had the rebate in the first place tbfh.

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    You should not have unified the European currencies.
    And destroyed all the Southern European economies to help German exporters in the process.
    That's mostly BS, the countries involved had pre-existing issues, some fell victim to pre-Euro speculation booms (Portugal), most never adjusted to increased productivity demands of a common market (Spain, Greece, Slovenia), and some are still utterly fucked (Italy).
    Eh there is also the factor of not being in charge of your monetary politics and doing things that are in YOUR best interest. ECB does what's in Germany best interest and that often isn't in the interest of other member states.


    

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    It's already impossible to set monetary policy to suit different regions within a single country, let alone do it across an entire continent. The whole idea of the euro is inherently flawed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    It's already impossible to set monetary policy to suit different regions within a single country, let alone do it across an entire continent. The whole idea of the euro is inherently flawed.
    You have to do internal wealth transfer if you want to go the route of unified currency. As it was obvious with Greece, Spain, Portugal and Italy that isn't likely to happen.


    

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    It's already impossible to set monetary policy to suit different regions within a single country, let alone do it across an entire continent. The whole idea of the euro is inherently flawed.
    [autism]
    Tell that to the US, which has more people and a very diverse economy across the states.

    However the main difference is that they run a (mostly) unified economy and legal framework.

    Anyway, I wonder how the perception can be so skewed, in Germany it's more of a "the ECB isn't doing what Germany thinks ought to be done". Schäuble criticises the ECB regularly (btw those are four separate links).
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    The US has an atrocious problem with inequality. 1 in 5 children is born into poverty.

    It's not exactly a role model for political economists, if anything it should serve as a stark warning.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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