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    Quote Originally Posted by Crystalline Entity View Post
    Some pretty positive news:

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/uk...ade-2018-01-23

    [well positive depending how you look at endless borrowing]
    So three years after the deficit was meant to be wiped out we are "only" borrowing 50bil a year is good news? Not to mention the drop in quality of life, the hounding of the disabled and reduction in real term wages that austerity has bought us. I'm curious what bad news looks like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siv View Post
    I'm curious what bad news looks like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebomby View Post

    France, for example, can and does protect its interests on the other side of the world. Germany does, as well, but only half heartedly, because when the Germans go full military, such as the bombing of those petrol tankers in Afghanistan all those years ago, they usually totally overdo it. Fuck, even full on peaceful places like Holland, Denmark, Sweden and Norway were happily shooting brown people in Afghanistan. The EU is a clusterfuck, I don't think anyone can deny that, but it's the best clusterfuck the world currently has in terms of protecting the rights and living standards of its people. Nowhere else on this planet has there ever been a free federation of as many nations and cultures as there are in the EU. It's messy and full of infighting and squabbling, but, for the most part, it actually works very well. You don't need passports to travel from Poland to Portugal. There are no import taxes on goods from any EU country to any other EU country. The mess and confusion of laws at the very least means that many laws are unified across the whole territory. You can work in Poznan or Sevilles or Duisburg. The same with studying.

    Will it crash and burn? No, obviously not, as much as you may want it too. Neither will the UK, as much as I want it too. Sucks, doesn't it.
    France is a good guy when it comes to being military proficient but even it can do so much alone while defending its own interests abroad and in Europe. Its nukes alone cannot
    guarantee peace unless it is willing to use them. And while Afghanistan is a good war, the Taliban are not really proficient in sending armoured divisions and advanced aircraft.
    And when I look at what Dutch peacekeepers didn't achieve in the Srbrenica massacre, it would leave anyone wary of the competence of armed forces that have no meaningful armed experience.
    The poll earlier in this topic recently shows that western people are less likely to fight for their country and if a person is not willing to fight for their home then how could they ever be expected to fight for the EU?

    It seems we are more insulated from what it actually means to fight the good fight.

    Numbers matter, will matters, experience matters and military technology and might matter. Political meddling only damage proper fighting ability.
    We should encourage contries like Sweden and Finalnd to join NATO just like we did for Montenegro [and screwed up the Russians in the bargain].

    I don't think the EU will burn but it may change its name and become something fairer but to do that it has to understand cause and effect which is woefully lacking in
    the higher circles. Its doesn't do good to have EU experiments cause so much harm without considering their actions on the populace at large.
    Passports might be fine for those who can afford to go abroad but I would argue taking away young people from another country without them returning hurts it [as can be seen in some areas].
    A political union is not desirable because it is against what makes countries unique and what those countries have achieved. Individualism not collectivism on a country basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siv View Post
    I'm curious what bad news looks like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RazoR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Siv View Post
    I'm curious what bad news looks like?
    At least they only stayed 6 years, not 60.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post

    At least they only stayed 6 years, not 60.
    Yes equating Tories to Adolf Hitler will really do your cause wonders.
    Churchill was a Tory too. Bad taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meester View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post

    At least they only stayed 6 years, not 60.
    Yes equating Tories to Adolf Hitler will really do your cause wonders.
    Churchill was a Tory too. Bad taste.
    Sounded more like the Russians to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meester View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post

    At least they only stayed 6 years, not 60.
    Yes equating Tories to Adolf Hitler will really do your cause wonders.
    Churchill was a Tory too. Bad taste.
    Lots of people have been members of the bourgeois ruling classes and committed atrocities. What's your point?

    Beyond juvenile hero worship of course.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
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    At least they only stayed 6 years, not 60.
    Yes equating Tories to Adolf Hitler will really do your cause wonders.
    Churchill was a Tory too. Bad taste.
    Lots of people have been members of the bourgeois ruling classes and committed atrocities. What's your point?

    Beyond juvenile hero worship of course.
    this is satire right?
    i mean you support communism so this has to be a joke....right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarabando View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post

    At least they only stayed 6 years, not 60.
    Yes equating Tories to Adolf Hitler will really do your cause wonders.
    Churchill was a Tory too. Bad taste.
    Lots of people have been members of the bourgeois ruling classes and committed atrocities. What's your point?

    Beyond juvenile hero worship of course.
    this is satire right?
    i mean you support communism so this has to be a joke....right?
    Weren't you raised on CAP payments, comrade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meester View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post

    At least they only stayed 6 years, not 60.
    Yes equating Tories to Adolf Hitler will really do your cause wonders.
    Churchill was a Tory too. Bad taste.
    It's an easy mistake to make, but that. picture was of German fascists, not English.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meester View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post

    At least they only stayed 6 years, not 60.
    Yes equating Tories to Adolf Hitler will really do your cause wonders.
    Churchill was a Tory too. Bad taste.
    Here's some of Churchill's less repeated quotes...

    "I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place."

    "I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes"

    "How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia [rabies] in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy."

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    23/10/17 The Greatreposteninging ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarabando View Post
    this is satire right?
    i mean you support communism so this has to be a joke....right?
    I'm not a tankie, I'm a Libertarian Socialist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarabando View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post

    At least they only stayed 6 years, not 60.
    Yes equating Tories to Adolf Hitler will really do your cause wonders.
    Churchill was a Tory too. Bad taste.
    Lots of people have been members of the bourgeois ruling classes and committed atrocities. What's your point?

    Beyond juvenile hero worship of course.
    this is satire right?
    i mean you support communism so this has to be a joke....right?
    Not again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sarabando View Post
    this is satire right?
    i mean you support communism so this has to be a joke....right?
    I'm not a tankie, I'm a Libertarian Socialist.
    Oh my.


    

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
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    this is satire right?
    i mean you support communism so this has to be a joke....right?
    I'm not a tankie, I'm a Libertarian Socialist.
    If you had a brain it would be Social liberal, but i have no clue what this above even means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caldrion Dosto View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
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    this is satire right?
    i mean you support communism so this has to be a joke....right?
    I'm not a tankie, I'm a Libertarian Socialist.
    If you had a brain it would be Social liberal, but i have no clue what this above even means.
    I'm not a liberal. I'm a socialist. Libertarian was a leftist term before it was co-opted by ancaps.

    Bookchin, Kropotkin etc etc
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
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    this is satire right?
    i mean you support communism so this has to be a joke....right?
    I'm not a tankie, I'm a Libertarian Socialist.
    If you had a brain it would be Social liberal, but i have no clue what this above even means.
    I'm not a liberal. I'm a socialist. Libertarian was a leftist term before it was co-opted by ancaps.

    Bookchin, Kropotkin etc etc
    Yeah and a Swastika was an Indian suncross, you gonna reclaim that as well?

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    i said before and looks like i have to again

    ur not libertarian, socialist or whatever - ur all wankers

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