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    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutsc...a-1209076.html

    In 2017 Germany granted German citizenship to 7493 British citizens. That's a 162% increase to 2016 which saw 2865 British citizens gain German citizenship. In 2015 only 622 British citizens wanted to become German citizens.
    Of those 7493 citizens, 9% did not live in Germany but either lost their German citizenship during Nazi rule or are descendants of such citizens.
    The average age of those naturalized is 52.8 years, which is older than any other group (EU nationals: 40.9, all groups: 34.8).

    Last year 112,200 people got the German citizenship, the biggest group (about 14k) were Turkish citizens, then the British, Poles, Italians and Romanians.

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    In 2017 Germany granted German citizenship to 7493 British citizens. That's a 162% increase to 2016 which saw 2865 British citizens gain German citizenship. In 2015 only 622 British citizens wanted to become German citizens.

    7493 is what % of 65640000 = 0.01%

    1. Main points
    In the year ending September 2017 net migration was at a similar level to early 2014 with 244,000 more people coming to the UK than leaving, so still adding to the UK population. This follows record levels of net migration during 2015 and early 2016.

    244000 is what % of 65640000 = 0.37%




    Interestingly the average age statistic you mentioned seems to indicate that high level directors and businessmen are just looking for a way to secure any EU travel or retirement plans.

    I could be (And have often been) wrong
    So what exactly are you trying to show here beyond a catastrophic fail at statistics and interpreting them?
    a) its not a very big number in the grand scheme of things.

    b) by the grand scheme of things i mean the uk net migration

    c) whilst german citizenship requests have risen by 162% of not very much, migration levels have remained the same (despite brexit?)

    d) it aint young people (who apparently care a lot about being in the EU according to brexit voting ages) that are applying. Its smart old fucks who just want options.


    OK now or want me to dumb it down a bit more for you?
    Non-material.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp4m View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutsc...a-1209076.html

    In 2017 Germany granted German citizenship to 7493 British citizens. That's a 162% increase to 2016 which saw 2865 British citizens gain German citizenship. In 2015 only 622 British citizens wanted to become German citizens.
    Of those 7493 citizens, 9% did not live in Germany but either lost their German citizenship during Nazi rule or are descendants of such citizens.
    The average age of those naturalized is 52.8 years, which is older than any other group (EU nationals: 40.9, all groups: 34.8).

    Last year 112,200 people got the German citizenship, the biggest group (about 14k) were Turkish citizens, then the British, Poles, Italians and Romanians.

    Tapapapatalk
    In 2017 Germany granted German citizenship to 7493 British citizens. That's a 162% increase to 2016 which saw 2865 British citizens gain German citizenship. In 2015 only 622 British citizens wanted to become German citizens.

    7493 is what % of 65640000 = 0.01%

    1. Main points
    In the year ending September 2017 net migration was at a similar level to early 2014 with 244,000 more people coming to the UK than leaving, so still adding to the UK population. This follows record levels of net migration during 2015 and early 2016.

    244000 is what % of 65640000 = 0.37%




    Interestingly the average age statistic you mentioned seems to indicate that high level directors and businessmen are just looking for a way to secure any EU travel or retirement plans.

    I could be (And have often been) wrong
    Uhm, what is your problem? That 2493 isn't 162% of 60-ish million?

    I wasn't posting this to say that Brits are fleeing for Germany. It was an interesting fact. If you have such a thin skin that you take it as an attack on Brexit, then more power to you, it must have been so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodj Blake View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp4m View Post
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    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutsc...a-1209076.html

    In 2017 Germany granted German citizenship to 7493 British citizens. That's a 162% increase to 2016 which saw 2865 British citizens gain German citizenship. In 2015 only 622 British citizens wanted to become German citizens.
    Of those 7493 citizens, 9% did not live in Germany but either lost their German citizenship during Nazi rule or are descendants of such citizens.
    The average age of those naturalized is 52.8 years, which is older than any other group (EU nationals: 40.9, all groups: 34.8).

    Last year 112,200 people got the German citizenship, the biggest group (about 14k) were Turkish citizens, then the British, Poles, Italians and Romanians.

    Tapapapatalk
    In 2017 Germany granted German citizenship to 7493 British citizens. That's a 162% increase to 2016 which saw 2865 British citizens gain German citizenship. In 2015 only 622 British citizens wanted to become German citizens.

    7493 is what % of 65640000 = 0.01%

    1. Main points
    In the year ending September 2017 net migration was at a similar level to early 2014 with 244,000 more people coming to the UK than leaving, so still adding to the UK population. This follows record levels of net migration during 2015 and early 2016.

    244000 is what % of 65640000 = 0.37%




    Interestingly the average age statistic you mentioned seems to indicate that high level directors and businessmen are just looking for a way to secure any EU travel or retirement plans.

    I could be (And have often been) wrong
    So what exactly are you trying to show here beyond a catastrophic fail at statistics and interpreting them?
    a) its not a very big number in the grand scheme of things.

    b) by the grand scheme of things i mean the uk net migration

    c) whilst german citizenship requests have risen by 162% of not very much, migration levels have remained the same (despite brexit?)

    d) it aint young people (who apparently care a lot about being in the EU according to brexit voting ages) that are applying. Its smart old fucks who just want options.


    OK now or want me to dumb it down a bit more for you?
    Here's something from the ONS website:

    "In the year ending September 2017 net migration was at a similar level to early 2014 with 244,000 more people coming to the UK than leaving, so still adding to the UK population. This follows record levels of net migration during 2015 and early 2016."



    So net immigration peaked in the first half of 2016 and has declined since then. I wonder what might have happened in mid-2016 to put people off from coming here...
    looking at the graph can't you see the oscillation anyway pre-bexit?

    or are you trying to argue that brexit caused the drop in migration? when there was previously a drop in 2012?

    Do you not think its something to do with study migraiton? 3 year cycle in line with uni courses across the county? many come in one year, many leave 3 years later....

    http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/20...ation-decline/


    QQ mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sp4m View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutsc...a-1209076.html

    In 2017 Germany granted German citizenship to 7493 British citizens. That's a 162% increase to 2016 which saw 2865 British citizens gain German citizenship. In 2015 only 622 British citizens wanted to become German citizens.
    Of those 7493 citizens, 9% did not live in Germany but either lost their German citizenship during Nazi rule or are descendants of such citizens.
    The average age of those naturalized is 52.8 years, which is older than any other group (EU nationals: 40.9, all groups: 34.8).

    Last year 112,200 people got the German citizenship, the biggest group (about 14k) were Turkish citizens, then the British, Poles, Italians and Romanians.

    Tapapapatalk
    In 2017 Germany granted German citizenship to 7493 British citizens. That's a 162% increase to 2016 which saw 2865 British citizens gain German citizenship. In 2015 only 622 British citizens wanted to become German citizens.

    7493 is what % of 65640000 = 0.01%

    1. Main points
    In the year ending September 2017 net migration was at a similar level to early 2014 with 244,000 more people coming to the UK than leaving, so still adding to the UK population. This follows record levels of net migration during 2015 and early 2016.

    244000 is what % of 65640000 = 0.37%




    Interestingly the average age statistic you mentioned seems to indicate that high level directors and businessmen are just looking for a way to secure any EU travel or retirement plans.

    I could be (And have often been) wrong
    Uhm, what is your problem? That 2493 isn't 162% of 60-ish million?

    I wasn't posting this to say that Brits are fleeing for Germany. It was an interesting fact. If you have such a thin skin that you take it as an attack on Brexit, then more power to you, it must have been so.

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    Its just not a big enough number Joe,

    We know you can do better than that, usually anything coming or going from Germany of note is at least above six million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp4m View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sp4m View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutsc...a-1209076.html

    In 2017 Germany granted German citizenship to 7493 British citizens. That's a 162% increase to 2016 which saw 2865 British citizens gain German citizenship. In 2015 only 622 British citizens wanted to become German citizens.
    Of those 7493 citizens, 9% did not live in Germany but either lost their German citizenship during Nazi rule or are descendants of such citizens.
    The average age of those naturalized is 52.8 years, which is older than any other group (EU nationals: 40.9, all groups: 34.8).

    Last year 112,200 people got the German citizenship, the biggest group (about 14k) were Turkish citizens, then the British, Poles, Italians and Romanians.

    Tapapapatalk
    In 2017 Germany granted German citizenship to 7493 British citizens. That's a 162% increase to 2016 which saw 2865 British citizens gain German citizenship. In 2015 only 622 British citizens wanted to become German citizens.

    7493 is what % of 65640000 = 0.01%

    1. Main points
    In the year ending September 2017 net migration was at a similar level to early 2014 with 244,000 more people coming to the UK than leaving, so still adding to the UK population. This follows record levels of net migration during 2015 and early 2016.

    244000 is what % of 65640000 = 0.37%




    Interestingly the average age statistic you mentioned seems to indicate that high level directors and businessmen are just looking for a way to secure any EU travel or retirement plans.

    I could be (And have often been) wrong
    Uhm, what is your problem? That 2493 isn't 162% of 60-ish million?

    I wasn't posting this to say that Brits are fleeing for Germany. It was an interesting fact. If you have such a thin skin that you take it as an attack on Brexit, then more power to you, it must have been so.

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    Its just not a big enough number Joe,

    We know you can do better than that, usually anything coming or going from Germany of note is at least above six million.
    That's the best you can do?

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    nevar forget

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sp4m View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sp4m View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutsc...a-1209076.html

    In 2017 Germany granted German citizenship to 7493 British citizens. That's a 162% increase to 2016 which saw 2865 British citizens gain German citizenship. In 2015 only 622 British citizens wanted to become German citizens.
    Of those 7493 citizens, 9% did not live in Germany but either lost their German citizenship during Nazi rule or are descendants of such citizens.
    The average age of those naturalized is 52.8 years, which is older than any other group (EU nationals: 40.9, all groups: 34.8).

    Last year 112,200 people got the German citizenship, the biggest group (about 14k) were Turkish citizens, then the British, Poles, Italians and Romanians.

    Tapapapatalk
    In 2017 Germany granted German citizenship to 7493 British citizens. That's a 162% increase to 2016 which saw 2865 British citizens gain German citizenship. In 2015 only 622 British citizens wanted to become German citizens.

    7493 is what % of 65640000 = 0.01%

    1. Main points
    In the year ending September 2017 net migration was at a similar level to early 2014 with 244,000 more people coming to the UK than leaving, so still adding to the UK population. This follows record levels of net migration during 2015 and early 2016.

    244000 is what % of 65640000 = 0.37%




    Interestingly the average age statistic you mentioned seems to indicate that high level directors and businessmen are just looking for a way to secure any EU travel or retirement plans.

    I could be (And have often been) wrong
    Uhm, what is your problem? That 2493 isn't 162% of 60-ish million?

    I wasn't posting this to say that Brits are fleeing for Germany. It was an interesting fact. If you have such a thin skin that you take it as an attack on Brexit, then more power to you, it must have been so.

    Tapapapatalk
    Its just not a big enough number Joe,

    We know you can do better than that, usually anything coming or going from Germany of note is at least above six million.
    That's the best you can do?

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    Thats what Hi said

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp4m View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sp4m View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutsc...a-1209076.html

    In 2017 Germany granted German citizenship to 7493 British citizens. That's a 162% increase to 2016 which saw 2865 British citizens gain German citizenship. In 2015 only 622 British citizens wanted to become German citizens.
    Of those 7493 citizens, 9% did not live in Germany but either lost their German citizenship during Nazi rule or are descendants of such citizens.
    The average age of those naturalized is 52.8 years, which is older than any other group (EU nationals: 40.9, all groups: 34.8).

    Last year 112,200 people got the German citizenship, the biggest group (about 14k) were Turkish citizens, then the British, Poles, Italians and Romanians.

    Tapapapatalk
    In 2017 Germany granted German citizenship to 7493 British citizens. That's a 162% increase to 2016 which saw 2865 British citizens gain German citizenship. In 2015 only 622 British citizens wanted to become German citizens.

    7493 is what % of 65640000 = 0.01%

    1. Main points
    In the year ending September 2017 net migration was at a similar level to early 2014 with 244,000 more people coming to the UK than leaving, so still adding to the UK population. This follows record levels of net migration during 2015 and early 2016.

    244000 is what % of 65640000 = 0.37%




    Interestingly the average age statistic you mentioned seems to indicate that high level directors and businessmen are just looking for a way to secure any EU travel or retirement plans.

    I could be (And have often been) wrong
    So what exactly are you trying to show here beyond a catastrophic fail at statistics and interpreting them?
    a) its not a very big number in the grand scheme of things.

    b) by the grand scheme of things i mean the uk net migration

    c) whilst german citizenship requests have risen by 162% of not very much, migration levels have remained the same (despite brexit?)

    d) it aint young people (who apparently care a lot about being in the EU according to brexit voting ages) that are applying. Its smart old fucks who just want options.


    OK now or want me to dumb it down a bit more for you?
    Here's something from the ONS website:

    "In the year ending September 2017 net migration was at a similar level to early 2014 with 244,000 more people coming to the UK than leaving, so still adding to the UK population. This follows record levels of net migration during 2015 and early 2016."



    So net immigration peaked in the first half of 2016 and has declined since then. I wonder what might have happened in mid-2016 to put people off from coming here...
    looking at the graph can't you see the oscillation anyway pre-bexit?

    or are you trying to argue that brexit caused the drop in migration? when there was previously a drop in 2012?

    Do you not think its something to do with study migraiton? 3 year cycle in line with uni courses across the county? many come in one year, many leave 3 years later....

    http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/20...ation-decline/


    QQ mate.
    2016 is four years after 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sp4m View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutsc...a-1209076.html

    In 2017 Germany granted German citizenship to 7493 British citizens. That's a 162% increase to 2016 which saw 2865 British citizens gain German citizenship. In 2015 only 622 British citizens wanted to become German citizens.
    Of those 7493 citizens, 9% did not live in Germany but either lost their German citizenship during Nazi rule or are descendants of such citizens.
    The average age of those naturalized is 52.8 years, which is older than any other group (EU nationals: 40.9, all groups: 34.8).

    Last year 112,200 people got the German citizenship, the biggest group (about 14k) were Turkish citizens, then the British, Poles, Italians and Romanians.

    Tapapapatalk
    In 2017 Germany granted German citizenship to 7493 British citizens. That's a 162% increase to 2016 which saw 2865 British citizens gain German citizenship. In 2015 only 622 British citizens wanted to become German citizens.

    7493 is what % of 65640000 = 0.01%

    1. Main points
    In the year ending September 2017 net migration was at a similar level to early 2014 with 244,000 more people coming to the UK than leaving, so still adding to the UK population. This follows record levels of net migration during 2015 and early 2016.

    244000 is what % of 65640000 = 0.37%




    Interestingly the average age statistic you mentioned seems to indicate that high level directors and businessmen are just looking for a way to secure any EU travel or retirement plans.

    I could be (And have often been) wrong
    So what exactly are you trying to show here beyond a catastrophic fail at statistics and interpreting them?
    a) its not a very big number in the grand scheme of things.

    b) by the grand scheme of things i mean the uk net migration

    c) whilst german citizenship requests have risen by 162% of not very much, migration levels have remained the same (despite brexit?)

    d) it aint young people (who apparently care a lot about being in the EU according to brexit voting ages) that are applying. Its smart old fucks who just want options.


    OK now or want me to dumb it down a bit more for you?
    Here's something from the ONS website:

    "In the year ending September 2017 net migration was at a similar level to early 2014 with 244,000 more people coming to the UK than leaving, so still adding to the UK population. This follows record levels of net migration during 2015 and early 2016."



    So net immigration peaked in the first half of 2016 and has declined since then. I wonder what might have happened in mid-2016 to put people off from coming here...
    looking at the graph can't you see the oscillation anyway pre-bexit?

    or are you trying to argue that brexit caused the drop in migration? when there was previously a drop in 2012?

    Do you not think its something to do with study migraiton? 3 year cycle in line with uni courses across the county? many come in one year, many leave 3 years later....

    http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/20...ation-decline/


    QQ mate.
    2016 is four years after 2012.
    ok so masters degree?

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    Just a friendly reminder that California is the 5th largest economy in the world, now, pretty much all because of Brexit.
    meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp4m View Post
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    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutsc...a-1209076.html

    In 2017 Germany granted German citizenship to 7493 British citizens. That's a 162% increase to 2016 which saw 2865 British citizens gain German citizenship. In 2015 only 622 British citizens wanted to become German citizens.
    Of those 7493 citizens, 9% did not live in Germany but either lost their German citizenship during Nazi rule or are descendants of such citizens.
    The average age of those naturalized is 52.8 years, which is older than any other group (EU nationals: 40.9, all groups: 34.8).

    Last year 112,200 people got the German citizenship, the biggest group (about 14k) were Turkish citizens, then the British, Poles, Italians and Romanians.

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    In 2017 Germany granted German citizenship to 7493 British citizens. That's a 162% increase to 2016 which saw 2865 British citizens gain German citizenship. In 2015 only 622 British citizens wanted to become German citizens.

    7493 is what % of 65640000 = 0.01%

    1. Main points
    In the year ending September 2017 net migration was at a similar level to early 2014 with 244,000 more people coming to the UK than leaving, so still adding to the UK population. This follows record levels of net migration during 2015 and early 2016.

    244000 is what % of 65640000 = 0.37%




    Interestingly the average age statistic you mentioned seems to indicate that high level directors and businessmen are just looking for a way to secure any EU travel or retirement plans.

    I could be (And have often been) wrong
    Uhm, what is your problem? That 2493 isn't 162% of 60-ish million?

    I wasn't posting this to say that Brits are fleeing for Germany. It was an interesting fact. If you have such a thin skin that you take it as an attack on Brexit, then more power to you, it must have been so.

    Tapapapatalk
    Its just not a big enough number Joe,

    We know you can do better than that, usually anything coming or going from Germany of note is at least above six million.
    That's the best you can do?

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    Thats what Hi said
    Are you too afraid to say Hitler?

    Now that's what I call a victim complex.

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    nevar forget

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    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
    Just a friendly reminder that California is the 5th largest economy in the world, now, pretty much all because of Brexit.
    Hasn't it always been fifth?

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    nevar forget

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    Just a friendly reminder that California is the 5th largest economy in the world, now, pretty much all because of Brexit.
    Hasn't it always been fifth?

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    It has been oscillating between 7 and 6 around France for the last several years until this year, when it surpassed our "Not European" friends as a direct result of their economy shrinking a few percentage points since Brexit.
    meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
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    Just a friendly reminder that California is the 5th largest economy in the world, now, pretty much all because of Brexit.
    Hasn't it always been fifth?

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    It has been oscillating between 7 and 6 around France for the last several years until this year, when it surpassed our "Not European" friends as a direct result of their economy shrinking a few percentage points since Brexit.
    Honestly Cali should just leave the US and take the other "not insane" states with them

    Although they prop up the south quite a bit so that might not be popular

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenosisMk4 View Post
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    Just a friendly reminder that California is the 5th largest economy in the world, now, pretty much all because of Brexit.
    Hasn't it always been fifth?

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    It has been oscillating between 7 and 6 around France for the last several years until this year, when it surpassed our "Not European" friends as a direct result of their economy shrinking a few percentage points since Brexit.
    Honestly Cali should just leave the US and take the other "not insane" states with them

    Although they prop up the south quite a bit so that might not be popular
    The problem is one of geography.

    Cali/Washington/Oregon might want to be their own thing, but they'd want to keep New York and the North East too. And Illinois.

    Hard to build a contiguous "People's Republic of North America" given all those pesky red states in between with all the oil and farms.

    Still, it's not like there isn't an active, albeit small, Calexit movement around.
    Last edited by Alistair; May 23 2018 at 01:11:33 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
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    Just a friendly reminder that California is the 5th largest economy in the world, now, pretty much all because of Brexit.
    Hasn't it always been fifth?

    Tapapapatalk
    It has been oscillating between 7 and 6 around France for the last several years until this year, when it surpassed our "Not European" friends as a direct result of their economy shrinking a few percentage points since Brexit.
    Honestly Cali should just leave the US and take the other "not insane" states with them

    Although they prop up the south quite a bit so that might not be popular
    The problem is one of geography.

    Cali/Washington/Oregon might want to be their own thing, but they'd want to keep New York and the North East too. And Illinois.

    Hard to build a contiguous "People Republic of North America" given all those pesky red states in between with all the oil and farms.

    Still, it's not like there isn't an active, albeit small, Calexit movement around.
    I don't think they'll realistically make the ballot. Also, it's not like Cali doesn't have some of the best farmland (and oil, actually) around, but we'd have to rejigger it away from cash crops into more staples.
    meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
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    Just a friendly reminder that California is the 5th largest economy in the world, now, pretty much all because of Brexit.
    Hasn't it always been fifth?

    Tapapapatalk
    It has been oscillating between 7 and 6 around France for the last several years until this year, when it surpassed our "Not European" friends as a direct result of their economy shrinking a few percentage points since Brexit.
    Honestly Cali should just leave the US and take the other "not insane" states with them

    Although they prop up the south quite a bit so that might not be popular
    The problem is one of geography.

    Cali/Washington/Oregon might want to be their own thing, but they'd want to keep New York and the North East too. And Illinois.

    Hard to build a contiguous "People Republic of North America" given all those pesky red states in between with all the oil and farms.

    Still, it's not like there isn't an active, albeit small, Calexit movement around.
    I don't think they'll realistically make the ballot. Also, it's not like Cali doesn't have some of the best farmland (and oil, actually) around, but we'd have to rejigger it away from cash crops into more staples.
    Probably not.

    Same for the "California Breakup" movement that wats to split Cali into 3-5 more appropriately sized States returning some value to rural Cali (i.e. Republican Cali) voters.

    Doubt either ever actually come to pass.


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    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutsc...a-1209076.html

    In 2017 Germany granted German citizenship to 7493 British citizens. That's a 162% increase to 2016 which saw 2865 British citizens gain German citizenship. In 2015 only 622 British citizens wanted to become German citizens.
    Of those 7493 citizens, 9% did not live in Germany but either lost their German citizenship during Nazi rule or are descendants of such citizens.
    The average age of those naturalized is 52.8 years, which is older than any other group (EU nationals: 40.9, all groups: 34.8).

    Last year 112,200 people got the German citizenship, the biggest group (about 14k) were Turkish citizens, then the British, Poles, Italians and Romanians.

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    In 2017 Germany granted German citizenship to 7493 British citizens. That's a 162% increase to 2016 which saw 2865 British citizens gain German citizenship. In 2015 only 622 British citizens wanted to become German citizens.

    7493 is what % of 65640000 = 0.01%

    1. Main points
    In the year ending September 2017 net migration was at a similar level to early 2014 with 244,000 more people coming to the UK than leaving, so still adding to the UK population. This follows record levels of net migration during 2015 and early 2016.

    244000 is what % of 65640000 = 0.37%




    Interestingly the average age statistic you mentioned seems to indicate that high level directors and businessmen are just looking for a way to secure any EU travel or retirement plans.

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    Uhm, what is your problem? That 2493 isn't 162% of 60-ish million?

    I wasn't posting this to say that Brits are fleeing for Germany. It was an interesting fact. If you have such a thin skin that you take it as an attack on Brexit, then more power to you, it must have been so.

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    Its just not a big enough number Joe,

    We know you can do better than that, usually anything coming or going from Germany of note is at least above six million.
    That's the best you can do?

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    Thats what Hi said
    Are you too afraid to say Hitler?

    Now that's what I call a victim complex.

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    No Joe, its a play on words,

    thats what "she" said is a popular comeback in the UK for something that a girl would say.

    I used that was "hi" said as a reference to both "He" and "Hitler"

    See, explaining jokes is like dissecting a frog, you learn a lot about the frog, this kills the frog (and the joke).

    Fortunately you can't manufacture or efficiency drive a sense of humour, so we'll always have something better over here regardless of how many sheckles we lose whilst unshackling from the EU

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    2/10/17 Greatposthellpurge never forget
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    Just a friendly reminder that California is the 5th largest economy in the world, now, pretty much all because of Brexit.
    Hasn't it always been fifth?

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    It has been oscillating between 7 and 6 around France for the last several years until this year, when it surpassed our "Not European" friends as a direct result of their economy shrinking a few percentage points since Brexit.
    Honestly Cali should just leave the US and take the other "not insane" states with them

    Although they prop up the south quite a bit so that might not be popular
    The problem is one of geography.

    Cali/Washington/Oregon might want to be their own thing, but they'd want to keep New York and the North East too. And Illinois.

    Hard to build a contiguous "People Republic of North America" given all those pesky red states in between with all the oil and farms.

    Still, it's not like there isn't an active, albeit small, Calexit movement around.
    I don't think they'll realistically make the ballot. Also, it's not like Cali doesn't have some of the best farmland (and oil, actually) around, but we'd have to rejigger it away from cash crops into more staples.
    Probably not.

    Same for the "California Breakup" movement that wats to split Cali into 3-5 more appropriately sized States returning some value to rural Cali (i.e. Republican Cali) voters.

    Doubt either ever actually come to pass.
    No, I mean trump got about 20% of the vote in my (very rich) county so no. Maybe 25-30% will vote R, and they mostly live in San Diego. As usual, there really aren't enough people in the rural areas to really move the needle.
    meh

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