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Thread: Pestilence or: How I Learned to Worry Constantly and Live with COVID

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    Welp, I have the coof.

    Had a mild cold since Monday, today my laterals came up positive.

    Still only mild cold symptoms, last vaccine was August; was due for a booster this week but obviously won't be getting that now.
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    Plague island living up to its name right now


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zekk Pacus View Post
    Welp, I have the coof.

    Had a mild cold since Monday, today my laterals came up positive.

    Still only mild cold symptoms, last vaccine was August; was due for a booster this week but obviously won't be getting that now.
    Hope that's all it will be. (If it helps: I know of many vaccinated people for whom it really was just a cold)

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    Quote Originally Posted by indi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sacul View Post
    For example face mask is at 13% solid effective
    What does this mean? 13% less aerosolized particles? (how is it being measured), 13% less viral load (how is it being measured?), or 13% less people getting COVID (how is this being measured? Who are the unlucky fuckers who got told to come to work as the control group without masks?).

    I'd be asking whomever is providing you this number for methodology notes, and proof of measurement and controls, or I'd suspect them of pulling it out of their ass.
    The use of face masks has been demonstrated to significantly reduce transmission of Covid-19 - if memory serves, more so than social distancing. The CDC has a nice overview of different research papers and methods used. I don't see 13% anywhere in there, generally the percentage (prevention of spread) seems higher.

    By now we have also had several meta analyses of the efficiency in prevention of covid spread of other measures, like hand washing and social distancing. This one gives a nice overview, including the risk of bias and heterogenity of the studies used.

    Lockdowns can be used, broadly speaking, for two strategies. The first is eradication, the other is flattening the curve (there it is again). Eradication seems to have generally worked for NZ, but I think we can safely say the rest of the world has long come to terms with the fact that there's no eradicating this stuff in our countries. Funnily enough, that meta analysis I linked last also has numbers for the efficiency of lockdowns. Guess what - it actually does really work to bring down transmission. I can't think of any other reason for the development in our own numbers - government imposes measures ("non essential shops and gyms close at 5 PM") and two weeks later the exponential growth comes to an end and, amazingly enough, the R rate drops under 1. I'm not sure how you can possibly say the effects of the various lockdowns have been minimal. They have not been minimal, they flattened the curve. Our country was close to the hospital system collapsing more than once. My brother in law is a physician (of the kind that works in hospitals). Next to seeing it in the news, I've heard firsthand.

    As for the economy, strangely enough we're already ahead of where we were pre-covid. We're actually in danger of overheating.

    None of this means I'm blind to the disaster it has been for many people (domestic violence, mental health). But you know, sometimes there's no such thing as the one choice that's just great for everyone. This has really, really sucked. Despite the many things that did and do go well.

    PS Just to be abundantly clear. The healthcare system was obviously not geared for a pandemic. It still isn't. It will take us many years to build it up to a level that we'd need for a situation like this one. We'll also have to be willing to pay a lot more for healthcare than we do now as a society. These are consequences of choices we made as a country. If you ask me, this needs fixing. Oh, and vision. Lastly, I'm certainly not denying that these almost-two-years have been really rough on many people. I'm also not saying I don't care about that - I do.
    I would add to @indi's post this excellent illustration by minutephysics:


    Masks. Work. Extremely well.


    I keep getting questions regarding masks from all sorts of semi-educated people who think they found the loop in the hole, the hole in the donut and the acid in carbonated drinks. FFS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zekk Pacus View Post
    Welp, I have the coof.

    Had a mild cold since Monday, today my laterals came up positive.

    Still only mild cold symptoms, last vaccine was August; was due for a booster this week but obviously won't be getting that now.
    My girlfriend had a fever for a couple of days but other than that it was just a cold.
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmin View Post
    acid in carbonated drinks
    Should we tell him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boltorano View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmin View Post
    acid in carbonated drinks
    Should we tell him?
    That a lemon is also a acid?

    Schopenhauer:

    All truth passes through three stages.
    First, it is ridiculed.
    Second, it is violently opposed.
    Third, it is accepted as being self-evident..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boltorano View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmin View Post
    acid in carbonated drinks
    Should we tell him?
    I think you misread my post

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    Perhaps.

    If you're referencing a meme or something I'm not aware of, then I apologize in advance.

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    My point was people trying to point out obvious things as if the people who have done mask efficacy tests are dumb or otherwise mentally challenged. Themselves being the obviously super smart people who work retail of course and completed a grand total of 4 years of primary school.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zekk Pacus View Post
    Welp, I have the coof.

    Had a mild cold since Monday, today my laterals came up positive.

    Still only mild cold symptoms, last vaccine was August; was due for a booster this week but obviously won't be getting that now.

    Welp, just in time for christmas. Aren't you the lucky one. A coworker just recovered from his covid that his kids gratiously shared with him. Some sniffles, mild fever and 3 days of coughing at the end before starting to recover. 6 days in total but obviously a bit sore and worse for wear after the coughing stopped.

    Here's hoping it passes quickly.

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    Im on day 6 now and dont feel much better. Still like a moderate cold with hella fatigue. Going to need to isolate from my wife and kid on xmas day. Feels bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
    Im on day 6 now and dont feel much better. Still like a moderate cold with hella fatigue. Going to need to isolate from my wife and kid on xmas day. Feels bad
    If you test negative tomorrow and xmas morning you can stop isolating if you have no fever.
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
    Im on day 6 now and dont feel much better. Still like a moderate cold with hella fatigue. Going to need to isolate from my wife and kid on xmas day. Feels bad
    If you test negative tomorrow and xmas morning you can stop isolating if you have no fever.
    true, but today I tested positive so...

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    if you were 5 days in and not isolated your wife and kid aren't safer because you locked yourself in a room on day 6 tho? Unless you've been isolated this whole time the moments passed.

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    That's rough. I read just last week that the average time to recover for vaccinated individuals was 5.5 (vs 7.5 for non-vax) days but I suspect that "recovery" part only applies to getting rid of the covid virus and not getting back to full strength.

    Anyway, I hope it isn't too rough on your lungs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Coutu View Post
    if you were 5 days in and not isolated your wife and kid aren't safer because you locked yourself in a room on day 6 tho? Unless you've been isolated this whole time the moments passed.
    I think lall has been isolating since first positive test as per UK guidance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan Dax View Post
    That's rough. I read just last week that the average time to recover for vaccinated individuals was 5.5 (vs 7.5 for non-vax) days but I suspect that "recovery" part only applies to getting rid of the covid virus and not getting back to full strength.

    Anyway, I hope it isn't too rough on your lungs.
    Most people seem to have a persistent cough after but that tends to be due to bronchus or upper respiratory tract irritation from excessive coughing during the infection rather than deeper lung damage in minor cases. That's the current working theory from a respiratory physio lecture I had anyway.

    Do what you can to sooth your throat, and when the infection is gone breathing exercises can help reduce further coughing and help recovery.
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Most of Finland just had all public events forbidden for 3 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
    Most of Finland just had all public events forbidden for 3 weeks.
    >finland
    >public events

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan Dax View Post
    That's rough. I read just last week that the average time to recover for vaccinated individuals was 5.5 (vs 7.5 for non-vax) days but I suspect that "recovery" part only applies to getting rid of the covid virus and not getting back to full strength.

    Anyway, I hope it isn't too rough on your lungs.
    Probably depends on the viral load doesnt it? I spoke to a doc friend when I had it in spring and she said that the viral loads were substantially lower during spring compared to winter months which helped massively with how you got trough it. Me, gf and my brother got through with nbd. I had mild flu symptoms for 2-3 days and after 2 days of rest was back to normal while those two didnt even notice it and wouldn't have even gotten tested if i didnt exhibit symptoms.


    

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