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    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
    Finland's positivity rate is somewhere between 2% and 3% for comparison. And we are on the edge for harsher measures coming into effect
    We are hitting 25-35% in the last 2 weeks... Supposedly our R is atm < 0.9.
    It doesnt mean anything if the tests arent random. Only thing thats worth paying attention is hospitals admissions and intensive care unit admissions.


    

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    Serbia, positivity rate 29%. No new measures, not even more vague talk about stricter enforcing the current measures (which are not fucking enforced). Just bragging how we ordered 1.6 million doses of vaccine and how we will have fastest growing economy in Europe for next 3 years and how our GDP growth is bestest GDP growth and how while tourism workers are being fired all over Europe we have over 50% occupancy rate in hotels in Belgrade. So currently cafes and restaurants are open till 23h, mostly packed, only ones wearing masks are waiters, if they even wear them properly and not below the nose. River clubs are officially closed and private security will tell inspectors that there is no one inside while you can hear the music and the crowds at 2AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeekar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
    Finland's positivity rate is somewhere between 2% and 3% for comparison. And we are on the edge for harsher measures coming into effect
    We are hitting 25-35% in the last 2 weeks... Supposedly our R is atm < 0.9.
    It doesnt mean anything if the tests arent random. Only thing thats worth paying attention is hospitals admissions and intensive care unit admissions.
    I don't think that is the entire truth. Some age groups do better than others, i.e. don't end up in hospitals as much (but will go on to infect grandpa and grandma). Another thing: by the time that rises, you are very much not in control of the situation anymore. That's basically what happened here: numbers on the rise, low numbers in hospital, ladeedah and suddenly exploding hospital admissions. The young adults infected their parents and grandparents, exponential shit happened and boom, we were right back in a bad situation.

    TLDR it's complex, you have to do math wizardry with many factors.

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    indi, your thoughts on the whole vaccine thingy?
    I was somewhere around Old Man Star, on the edge of Essence, when drugs began to take hold.

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    things are definitely not quiet on the mink front, there is a whole lot going on and it's in a terminal spiral of stupidity, getting worse by the hour.

    so, the culling has been halted because the government was too quick to react, it's now becoming a farcical scandal that belongs in "Yes minister!". TLDR : the "MUH PRIVATE PROPERTY!" Brigade has dug their heels in, there is no legal basis for culling every mink farm in the country and unlikely to be one as the situation is, we're looking at a non zero chance of a election happening over this issue and it turns out that the COVID strains in question are, maybe or maybe not quite as problematic for vaccine efforts as initially indicated. oh, and some FUCKWIT of the 93153215th degree decided that there is differential compensation for the mink farmers depending on if they're registered infected or not so it's pretty safe to assume that the self-reported test results are suspect.

    the root issue here is two fold, A : the government knew this could be a problem back in mid august at the latest and didn't react until it became a problem, meaning no legal basis for the measures taken and B : the dumb minkfuckers lied about having the legal basis. they reacted in a panic because it looked really bad (and it did, it was abseloutely the correct response, and tbh it still is) but didn't do their homework and lied about it, so now a buttsore opposition (because they've been ridden like a gimp since the start of the pandemic) are making a "moral stand" for the rights of "small buisness" that happen to increase the pandemic risks significantly, and by the looks of reports that ticked in this evening, are lying trough their teeth to get maximum compensation, while not actually doing the culling.
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    Viking, n.:
    1. Daring Scandinavian seafarers, explorers, adventurers, entrepreneurs world-famous for their aggressive, nautical import business, highly leveraged takeovers and blue eyes.
    2. Bloodthirsty sea pirates who ravaged northern Europe beginning in the 9th century.

    Hagar's note: The first definition is much preferred; the second is used only by malcontents, the envious, and disgruntled owners of waterfront property.

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    holywater ftw



    In Altai Krai (Russia), priest sprinkled holy water on covid patients and the hospital

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    Germany: optimistically 60,000 vaccinations a day possible, vaccination program could take until 2024 [Source in German]

    https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/polit...jahre-100.html

    The WHO expects vaccinations against the coronavirus to start in mid-2021. An expert estimates that vaccination coverage will take at least four years.
    The former deputy chairman of the Federal Government's Health Advisory Council, Matthias Schrappe, told the newspapers of the Funke media group that he expected a vaccination campaign against Corona to last several years.

    Four years to decades to vaccinate everyone
    In a model calculation, he and his colleagues assumed 60 million people would have to be vaccinated, the report said. If 60,000 doses of vaccine were given per working day, vaccination would take every 1,000 working days. "So about four years," explains the doctor. However, this calculation is probably still too optimistic. Vaccination programs in the past - such as against smallpox or polio - would have lasted decades.

    "It's a complicated social process," said Schrappe. Finding a consensus on who should be vaccinated first is difficult. "Doctors cannot decide that, politics has to regulate that."

    Montgomery: No premature differentiation of who will be vaccinated
    The chairman of the World Medical Association, Frank Ulrich Montgomery, advises against making an early decision as to which people should be vaccinated against Corona first. "I would be against making a sub-differentiation now," said Montgomery to the newspapers of the Funke media group.
    Who should be vaccinated first also depends on which vaccine is available, said Montgomery. "Since they are based on different pharmacological principles, there will be some that, for example, do not work in older people or are not as safe as others."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Crush View Post
    Germany: optimistically 60,000 vaccinations a day possible, vaccination program could take until 2024 [Source in German]

    https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/polit...jahre-100.html

    The WHO expects vaccinations against the coronavirus to start in mid-2021. An expert estimates that vaccination coverage will take at least four years.
    The former deputy chairman of the Federal Government's Health Advisory Council, Matthias Schrappe, told the newspapers of the Funke media group that he expected a vaccination campaign against Corona to last several years.

    Four years to decades to vaccinate everyone
    In a model calculation, he and his colleagues assumed 60 million people would have to be vaccinated, the report said. If 60,000 doses of vaccine were given per working day, vaccination would take every 1,000 working days. "So about four years," explains the doctor. However, this calculation is probably still too optimistic. Vaccination programs in the past - such as against smallpox or polio - would have lasted decades.

    "It's a complicated social process," said Schrappe. Finding a consensus on who should be vaccinated first is difficult. "Doctors cannot decide that, politics has to regulate that."

    Montgomery: No premature differentiation of who will be vaccinated
    The chairman of the World Medical Association, Frank Ulrich Montgomery, advises against making an early decision as to which people should be vaccinated against Corona first. "I would be against making a sub-differentiation now," said Montgomery to the newspapers of the Funke media group.
    Who should be vaccinated first also depends on which vaccine is available, said Montgomery. "Since they are based on different pharmacological principles, there will be some that, for example, do not work in older people or are not as safe as others."

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    Candy seems more like a bot than a human, posting useless shit non stop, never having anything other than generic redditor trash to say and being about as interesting as a bag of rusted nails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Coutu View Post
    Jack Coutu seems more like a bot than a human, posting useless shit non stop, never having anything other than generic redditor trash to say and being about as interesting as a bag of rusted nails.


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    Lark the "pretending to be adult but never grew up from their 4chan phase" expert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liare View Post
    things are definitely not quiet on the mink front, there is a whole lot going on and it's in a terminal spiral of stupidity, getting worse by the hour.

    so, the culling has been halted because the government was too quick to react, it's now becoming a farcical scandal that belongs in "Yes minister!". TLDR : the "MUH PRIVATE PROPERTY!" Brigade has dug their heels in, there is no legal basis for culling every mink farm in the country and unlikely to be one as the situation is, we're looking at a non zero chance of a election happening over this issue and it turns out that the COVID strains in question are, maybe or maybe not quite as problematic for vaccine efforts as initially indicated. oh, and some FUCKWIT of the 93153215th degree decided that there is differential compensation for the mink farmers depending on if they're registered infected or not so it's pretty safe to assume that the self-reported test results are suspect.

    the root issue here is two fold, A : the government knew this could be a problem back in mid august at the latest and didn't react until it became a problem, meaning no legal basis for the measures taken and B : the dumb minkfuckers lied about having the legal basis. they reacted in a panic because it looked really bad (and it did, it was abseloutely the correct response, and tbh it still is) but didn't do their homework and lied about it, so now a buttsore opposition (because they've been ridden like a gimp since the start of the pandemic) are making a "moral stand" for the rights of "small buisness" that happen to increase the pandemic risks significantly, and by the looks of reports that ticked in this evening, are lying trough their teeth to get maximum compensation, while not actually doing the culling.
    But the memes are good:



    for the non-nordics:

    1) "The blue block be like"
    2) "Kill minks to avoid extending the pandemic that has already brought the world to it's knees both health-wise and economically"
    3) "Kill minks for profit"

    Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. - Blaise Pascal, Pensées, 277

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    the memes are excellent, the rest is just a slideshow of idiocy getting worse by the day.
    Viking, n.:
    1. Daring Scandinavian seafarers, explorers, adventurers, entrepreneurs world-famous for their aggressive, nautical import business, highly leveraged takeovers and blue eyes.
    2. Bloodthirsty sea pirates who ravaged northern Europe beginning in the 9th century.

    Hagar's note: The first definition is much preferred; the second is used only by malcontents, the envious, and disgruntled owners of waterfront property.

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    No that this is surprising to anyone and also correlation != causation. But it hints at something:



    Source: https://www.economist.com/graphic-de...ce-on-covid-19

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
    No that this is surprising to anyone and also correlation != causation. But it hints at something:



    Source: https://www.economist.com/graphic-de...ce-on-covid-19
    Correlation does not _necessarily_ mean causation, but, sometimes, it does.
    meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
    No that this is surprising to anyone and also correlation != causation. But it hints at something:



    Source: https://www.economist.com/graphic-de...ce-on-covid-19
    Correlation does not _necessarily_ mean causation, but, sometimes, it does.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tarminic View Post
    Just for the record, "sending a needy text" is never the right answer.

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    Also Britain isnt a country if we are being pedantic

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    Quote Originally Posted by evil edna View Post
    Also Britain isnt a country if we are being pedantic
    Brits should adopt America's federalism to make the politics extra stupid and entertaining

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    Britain will never be great until England becomes a socialist heptarchy
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Make Mercia great again

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