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    "Holy shit, I ask you to stop being autistic and you debate what autistic is." - spasm
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    Boris admitted, looks like walking around shaking hands those few weeks ago might not have been the smartest idea.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...ovid-19-166708
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortior View Post
    Boris admitted, looks like walking around shaking hands those few weeks ago might not have been the smartest idea.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...ovid-19-166708
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    whats tyhe appear of a shnitifuck cu nt eve onlio9ne corpotraTION DICKOLHEAD FUCKIN AS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Flare View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fortior View Post
    Boris admitted, looks like walking around shaking hands those few weeks ago might not have been the smartest idea.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...ovid-19-166708
    Fingers crossed the arsehole is okay.
    I think they're more worried about the lungs
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Totally Not Larkonnis View Post
    I seem to have noticed a shift of how the BBC are reporting deaths. People are no longer dying 'of' coronavirus but 'with' coronavirus. Or have I just missed it previously?
    Makes sense, as very few really die from the virus. The virus "just" worsens their preconditions. That's why those are the ones that need the protection from society by society (aka "those who are infected") through social-distancing. Most infected with otherwise normal health conditions show no or only mild symptoms and experience what otherwise is a typical mild flu. So the virus in itself isn't (that) deadly.

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    Why is Germany seemingly dealing with this so much better than other nations? Are they measuring stuff differently or just good at pandemic response?
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Why is Germany seemingly dealing with this so much better than other nations? Are they measuring stuff differently or just good at pandemic response?
    We can't be sure until this is over. There will be some element of them just testing more people, but until other countries have done as widespread testing (including post-hoc/antibody testing), we've got nothing to compare it to. That would only explain a difference in the evolution of confirmed case counts. There appears to be some distinct difference in the evolution of the death rate as well, so there is some merit to the argument that the (better funded) German health system is responding better, likely because they were better positioned to take advantage of the time difference between things going to shit in Italy and it spreading to the rest of Europe. They were going into lockdown and enacting disaster response plans while we had Boris bragging about how many hands he'd shaken that morning.

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    Earlier hard lock down + more testing perhaps - note that Austria has a similar number of deaths/total population.

    also of course genetic superiority

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    Slovenia has both Germany and Austria beaten both on cases and deaths / million people. So does Croatia and Serbia. There are several factors innplay here not just how well funded is the healthcare system


    

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    That's because Slovenia is an imaginary country though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeekar View Post
    Slovenia has both Germany and Austria beaten both on cases and deaths / million people. So does Croatia and Serbia. There are several factors innplay here not just how well funded is the healthcare system
    That's simply because those countries are far earlier in the evolution of the spread of the virus. Croatia hit 100 confirmed cases on the 19th March, more than 2 weeks after Germany and the UK. It takes about 10 days from infection to the point of clinical intervention, and then a mean stay in hospital of about 8 days. In other words it takes about 3 weeks for statistics to catch up with the people potentially currently catching it.

    It's worth noting though that lockdowns do have beneficial effects for neighbouring countries. With international travel effectively shut down there isn't going to be much cross-border introductions of "new" infections going on. Makes things a lot easier to manage if you're capable of doing enough tests.

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    Slovenia had its first case on 3.3 and we hit 100 cases on 12.3. currently total number of cases is around 1000. Our growth is pmuch in decline for the last 10 days. So no we arent.

    www.gov.si/teme/koronavirus

    Check the graphs.


    

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordstern View Post
    Retardo conservative midwest states not giving a fuck about anyone, and then whining that they're the real victims and neeeeeed federal supports gib nao
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    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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    Almost all initial patients in Berlin could be traced back to a 22 year old working in an office with people of similar age. A lot of spreading happened at two clubs later that same week. Basically most infected in Berlin were quite young and fit. We also have tons of ICU beds compared to everybody else in Europe and only second world wide (number 1 is the US btw) as well as lots of ventilators.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._hospital_beds

    In other news: Tesla engineers built a ventilator out of Model 3 parts and one machined manifold.

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    Anyone has a link to that site where they got both scales logarithmic and you can see animation of country graphs racing in a straight line, so that if a country has slowed down you see drop below the main diagonal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordstern View Post
    Someone match this up with a 2016 voting graphic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Why is Germany seemingly dealing with this so much better than other nations? Are they measuring stuff differently or just good at pandemic response?
    Dealing better in which regard?

    If I'm not mistaken, our infaction ratio is similar to other countries. Our death/infection seems to be better. One reason for that seems to be the # of intense care beds / ppl.

    Beds per 100,000 inhabitants:



    Source: https://www.destatis.de/DE/Themen/Ge...r/_inhalt.html

    E.g. the high death toll in Italy is mostly due to the fact that people die because the lack of treatment, forcing medics into the very ugly act of Triage

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    UK government admits Covid-19 antibody tests don’t work
    https://www.ft.com/content/f28e26a0-...b-b3a618ca659d

    The UK government has admitted that none of the 17.5m antibody tests it ordered in the fight against the coronavirus pandemic work well enough to be used. Ministers had high hopes that the arrival of the tests would give a much clearer picture about how many people had been infected by Covid-19, paving the way for an eventual easing of lockdown restrictions.
    The failure of the tests is a significant setback and suggests Britain may be further away from being able to launch an effective programme of mass testing.*

    The government is working with nine companies that have developed coronavirus antibody tests, which screen for whether someone has recovered from the disease and is likely to be immune.*The tests are being assessed by researchers at Oxford university — but each one has so far proven unreliable. “Sadly, the tests we have looked at to date have not performed well,” wrote*Professor John Bell, Regius Professor of Medicine at Oxford university on Monday. “We see many false negatives (tests where no antibody is detected despite the fact we know it is there) and we also see false positives. None of the tests we have validated would meet the criteria for a good test as agreed with the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency. This is not a good result for test suppliers or for us,” he said. [...]

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    A leaked memo seen by the FT says London hospitals are running low on available dialysis machines due to a higher than expected number of acute kidney complications. Possibly due to the aggressive use of diuretics like Frusemide
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarp View Post
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    Someone match this up with a 2016 voting graphic.


    Some correlation, but the stronger factor is whether a state has issued a stay-at-home order.

    Map of states by governor’s party:

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